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February 05, 2015, 09:03:19 AM
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Trying to find out whether there is a need for a lottery sort of site like this before coding the back-end.
ie. Would anyone be interested in playing a monero lottery/lucky draw?
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February 05, 2015, 09:33:10 AM
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Code:
[url=http://monero:46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em?recipient_name=DevFund]donate.monero.cc[/url]

Outside of this forum, you would need to remove the http in order to make this work, like this, right?
Code:
[url=monero:46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em?recipient_name=DevFund]donate.monero.cc[/url]

However, stupid BBcode seems to auto-prepend http:
donate.monero.cc

Edit: This doesn't behave any better:
donate.monero.cc

So this sig-including doesn't work at all... Sad
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February 05, 2015, 09:41:17 AM
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A question regarding the daemon's RPC interface:

Which is the current documentation? http://monero.wikia.com/wiki/RPC_API/Daemon claims that
"This is only a draft for a new version of the protocol. Please do NOT rely on it!"
and indeed, the /rpc endpoint doesn't seem to exist on my daemon. Should I then use Bytecoin's
RPC API docs ( https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Daemon_JSON_RPC_API )?

If yes, how can I see (using the API) that my daemon is fully synced?
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February 05, 2015, 10:17:23 AM
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A question regarding the daemon's RPC interface:

Which is the current documentation? http://monero.wikia.com/wiki/RPC_API/Daemon claims that
"This is only a draft for a new version of the protocol. Please do NOT rely on it!"
and indeed, the /rpc endpoint doesn't seem to exist on my daemon. Should I then use Bytecoin's
RPC API docs ( https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Daemon_JSON_RPC_API )?

If yes, how can I see (using the API) that my daemon is fully synced?

Turns out, the calls from the Monero wiki are nowhere to be fund in the code on github.
No wonder I can't make it work, then. Cheesy

Where is development happening? Not on github? There seems to be a very low activity...
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February 05, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
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A question regarding the daemon's RPC interface:

Which is the current documentation? http://monero.wikia.com/wiki/RPC_API/Daemon claims that
"This is only a draft for a new version of the protocol. Please do NOT rely on it!"
and indeed, the /rpc endpoint doesn't seem to exist on my daemon. Should I then use Bytecoin's
RPC API docs ( https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Daemon_JSON_RPC_API )?

If yes, how can I see (using the API) that my daemon is fully synced?


The best way I can think of is querying the getlastblockheader and check the timestamp.
Code:
http://localhost:18081/json_rpc/getlastblockheader



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February 05, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
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If yes, how can I see (using the API) that my daemon is fully synced?

The best way I can think of is querying the getlastblockheader and check the timestamp.
Code:
http://localhost:18081/json_rpc/getlastblockheader


Good idea! For the record, the call would require a post with:

Code:
{
    "jsonrpc":"2.0",
    "id":"yourid",
    "method":"getlastblockheader"
}

For example:
Code:
curl -X POST http://127.0.0.1:18081/json_rpc -d '{"jsonrpc":"2.0","id":"yourid","method":"getlastblockheader"}' -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Accept: application/json"

Works like a charm, much better than just reading the block chain height and comparing that to chainradar's one... Smiley Thanks!
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February 05, 2015, 11:01:53 AM
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Turns out, the calls from the Monero wiki are nowhere to be fund in the code on github.
No wonder I can't make it work, then. Cheesy

Where is development happening? Not on github? There seems to be a very low activity...

We haven't even started development on the new RPC API calls:)

With git you don't commit to the main repo every 5 minutes, that would make it exceedingly difficult to coordinate work between contributors. So developers work in their own forks and branches, and then submit pull requests to the upstream (main) repo.

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February 05, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
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We haven't even started development on the new RPC API calls:)

Ah, that explains it, thanks. Smiley A pity, the new calls look so much more sane than the Bytecoin ones...  Cool

With git you don't commit to the main repo every 5 minutes, that would make it exceedingly difficult to coordinate work between contributors. So developers work in their own forks and branches, and then submit pull requests to the upstream (main) repo.

Yes, sorry, my question was phrased badly: where is development discussed? I mean, where could I go to find out the status of the RPC call implementation, or the often-discussed multisig stuff, or the db, etc? IRC? The Monero forum?
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February 05, 2015, 11:15:00 AM
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So this sig-including doesn't work at all... Sad
This is just a case of me typing to late at night, plus the force of habit. http:// shall be completely remove (since this is not the http protocol but the monero pseudoprotocol)

Even if the resulting code is correct, it is confusing, because it behave like a hypertext link but obviously doesn't work since there is no tool to handle it yet. So I reverted back to a good old donate.monero.cc.

Yes, sorry, my question was phrased badly: where is development discussed? I mean, where could I go to find out the status of the RPC call implementation, or the often-discussed multisig stuff, or the db, etc? IRC? The Monero forum?
Mostly #monero-dev.

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February 05, 2015, 12:21:07 PM
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hi,guys, I am sure I put paymentid in and withdrawal XMR from poloniex to bittrex. but bittrex said "NONE of my transactions have included a payment id ". Is that the truth ? would you please help me figure out the problem?

2015/2/3 12:35 XMR 1 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: c4448f2bf8027fa0f38c97c20ef75d2f11cab8317769f01042f61be0eb317c04

2015/2/2 10:09 XMR 50.42089261 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: c3c73d5b3c8e89d56892cf006e3d3a8f1faf639907df484896f546086d6bfd2d

2015/2/2 8:06 XMR 75.63133891 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: 50b8a86c629b2f7876418408a1fe0b5103a0892325d619c526bad21108c687f2

2015/2/2 3:59 XMR 51.43828586 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: 87a743d785a72a6764a203a73209dab379daedb919e1a4b42436b5ec379105a5

2015/2/2 1:56 XMR 73.39923384 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: 806203db203d0e66b34521a7943b4c6ed2069e7a73f2f88e9d004545797bb4b4

2015/2/1 20:49 XMR 83.77709438 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: 0dee56787b42b937f5588a88a1d6925d614caa63d5dc5cd6171ad764237a6dac
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February 05, 2015, 12:31:16 PM
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are those the txids that bittrex gave you to deposit to?

usually with exchanges, if you want to deposit XMR, they provide a payment ID  (transaction ID, txID) - that way, when the XMR comes in, they know where it should go (I guess).

If you just picked a random txID and sent from polo -> bittrex, bittrex doesn't have that txID, so they don't know what they're looking for.

Have you tried sending those txIDS to bittrex?

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February 05, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
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hi,guys, I am sure I put paymentid in and withdrawal XMR from poloniex to bittrex. but bittrex said "NONE of my transactions have included a payment id ". Is that the truth ? would you please help me figure out the problem?

2015/2/3 12:35 XMR 1 463tWEBn5XZJSxLU6uLQnQ2iY9xuNcDbjLSjkn3XAXHCbLrTTErJrBWYgHJQyrCwkNgYvyV3z8zctJL PCZy24jvb3NiTcTJ txid: c4448f2bf8027fa0f38c97c20ef75d2f11cab8317769f01042f61be0eb317c04


The first one at least does not have a payment ID.

http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/c4448f2bf8027fa0f38c97c20ef75d2f11cab8317769f01042f61be0eb317c04

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February 05, 2015, 12:35:56 PM
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I wrote yesterday a long reply regarding the GUI wallet on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2uqsl6/why_is_the_official_gui_wallet_not_released_yet/

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This is a recurring question, from long-time holders and newcomers alike.

There is a misunderstanding here and we have to confess we have not been performing very well at dispelling it.

Truth is we are not trying to merely create a GUI, as in a GUI wrapper. Fact is these simple wrappers already exist (Jojatekok's Windows GUI, Neozaru's Qt GUI, jwinterm's lightWallet and we could probably use Bitcoin wallet too).

What we are building is more than a wrapper, it is a full-fledged scalable GUI software. And scalable is the hard part, not GUI - remember, scalability is one of the three pillars of Monero.

What is scalable?
  • Mnemonic seed for increased security (why).
  • Low RAM footprint ("the DB", presently Symas Lightning MDB but later a lot others, since we built a database API).
  • e-commerce prerequisites, notably for payment processors.
  • Low bandwith footprint (a framework for SPV, like Electrum). The remote node provides a similar experience in that one doesn't have to download the whole blockchain, but this is where the similarities end and SPV would be lighter than a remote node.
  • Much better understood (thus secure) and refactored code. This is behind-the-scene stuff and not sexy, but when it comes to securing your money, this matters. The Monero Protocol is sound, but we are not that comfortable with the source code we inherited in April (and improved since then). Note: we are pretty demanding on security, so when we say that "we are not that comfortable", this means the security is already high, just not high enough Smiley
  • Gitian binaries
  • Various mainstream users niceties, such as an address book, an easy way to do bookeeping (including easily report to tax offices, because Monero is not meant just for l33t haX0r, but for everyone, including legal persons like corporations, NGO, political parties...)
  • Viewkey for optional transparency (see fluffy quote on Three Pilllars)
  • Have a solid foundation for easy improvements later on (like third-parties improvements). Because once the (scalable) GUI wallet will be there, we expect things to accelerate - and we rather be ready for the acceleration. Fasten your seatbelt, Dorothy.
Why is scalable important?
Because it is one of the three pillars Smiley

More seriously, because once the official GUI wallet will be there, visibility will increase a lot. Which means more users who know nothing about Monero and later not even about cryptocurrencies. These people won't give a second thought. One does only one first impression. It must be the right one. Hence the necessity for a wallet than can handle the load. Be scalable, not that much on a technical standpoint than on a, say, "political" standpoint.

We hope we answered your questions and, as always, don't hesitate to provide feedback. We'll do our best to make this even more clear if necessary.

This post was first published, in a slightly different version, as an answer to a commenter. Continue commenting, this is a great way to encourage us to write extensive replies!

Oh, one more thing: we do not have any release date for the GUI wallet, not even tentative. The only thing we can say is that the GUI wallet requires the database to be operational - and the database is progressing very well.

Update: some screenshots of the wallet some months ago:

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Great post Dave, good to keep peops up to date even if all they have todo is check the FAQ. Smiley

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February 05, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
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What exactly is the relation between https://xmrmonero.com/ and https://forum.monero.cc/? Which one is worth joining?
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February 05, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
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If you follow Monero carefully, you may have heard the word OpenAlias, without really understanding what it is.

OpenAlias (openalias.org) is an open standard for simpler addresses for any crypto — "Simplifying the World" is its slogan.

As long as you have a domain name (I recommend Gandi), you can transform these unreadable 35 characters long addresses (or even 96 for Monero) into something much more human-readable, like donate.monero.cc. Zooko's triangle: squared.

"At its most basic, OpenAlias is a TXT DNS record on a FQDN (fully qualified domain name). By combining this with DNS-related technologies we have created an aliasing standard that is extensible for developers, intuitive and familiar for users, and can interoperate with both centralised and decentralised domain systems."

No risk of disappointments like "chris678". No risk of phishing like "poloniex". No risk of losing your alias because you lost your private key. To own the alias, you just own the domain name and that's all.

Raw address:
Code:
46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em

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donate.monero.cc

Any domain. Any crypto. Any address. Any time.

Any domain. You can use any domain name, ICANN-sanctionned or not, as long as it follows the DNS naming system. This means OpenAlias works with .bit (Namecoin) too (but not with .onion and .i2p)

Any crypto. Even if OpenAlias is a Monero Core Team creation, it works with other cryptocurrencies as well. In fact, it works with any crypto. So, yes, you can receive bitcoins, ripples, NXT... with OpenAlias.

Any address. You can use the same address for several cryptos. The alias for the Monero development fund is donate.monero.cc and it has both a Monero and a Bitcoin address. So you don't have to remember one address per crypto. Just one address. Note though that an entry must be created for every crypto, so don't send us dogecoins that way, it won't work :)Also, the reverse is true: you can have several aliases with the same address. For instance, you can send to "david.latapie.name" or "latapie.name", I configured both (here too, this is manual, so if you send to "www.latapie.name", it won't succeed - www is deprecated anyway).

Any time. You can change the address whenever you want, it won't break the alias.

OpenAlias is fully implemented in the latest version of simplewallet (0.8.8.6) and on mymonero.com. We are in discussion with Poloniex to have implemented (for outgoing transactions only). For the moment, Monero is the only cryptocurrency to implement OpenAlias.

OpenAlias follows exactly the Three Pillars of Monero. Privacy: DNSSEC and DNSCrypt compliant and we provide log-less resolvers (list on the website). Decentralisation: ready for Namecoin, DIANNA, P2P-DNS and other decentralised DNS. Scalability: Zooko's triangle and future-proof.

We hope to see many implementations of OpenAlias soon!

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February 05, 2015, 03:30:57 PM
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DavidLatapie, you're producing some excellent literature. Thank you.

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February 05, 2015, 03:58:41 PM
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What exactly is the relation between https://xmrmonero.com/ and https://forum.monero.cc/? Which one is worth joining?

xmrmonero.com is a MEW project and is not a core team project (that is not to say that we don't support it or contribute to it or whatever).

The only sanctioned, official forum is forum.monero.cc

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February 05, 2015, 04:41:04 PM
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DavidLatapie, you're producing some excellent literature. Thank you.

Indeed, thanks a bunch!
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February 05, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
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Can anyone here spit out some ideas concerning websites that you think should be created around or focusing on Monero?
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