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January 31, 2015, 11:30:32 AM
Last edit: January 31, 2015, 11:46:10 AM by CryptoNote.eu
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BCN/CN.org-gang DDOSed my tiny, private VPS. Which I use just for IRC. Hostname/PTR-record is "cryptonote.co".

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Because I hang around in many, many IRC-channels and chat quite alot. Over time, plenty of people are going to see/notice my IRC hostmask "cryptonote.co".
So I decided to start a HTTP server on the VPS and redirect requests for http://cryptonote.co to http://monero.cc.
(So curious or interested people find a page under this URL and not just an empty page or an browser error message.)

Obvious the intention was to support The Monero Project. It was a conscious decision against http://cryptonote.org. Most of you, know the reasons why.
Absolutely didn't expected, that anyone could be offended or seriously unhappy by this (non-issue).
 

Turns out, BCN/CN.org-crew don't approve. Wink

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January 31, 2015, 11:33:04 AM
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https://cryptonote.org/news/2015/1/23/nicolas-van-saberhagen-to-take-a-stand-at-p2p-financial-systems-workshop

https://www.ecurex.com/p2pfisy/#programme

 11.50 – 12.20
Paper: CryptoNote v 2.0
Author:    Nicolas van Saberhagen – CryptoNote
Discussant: Tomaso Aste – University College London

shit just got real  Cool

Update?  Was it a big nothingburger?


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January 31, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
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Update?  Was it a big nothingburger?
lclc was there. He isn't back online, see
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144831

Most likely, he was/is partying in Frankfurt and now sleeping or traveling (home to Switzerland?).

He will report.


Here is a german news article about the whole event, or better the research workshop, as it was officially labeled:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Bitcoin-Konferenz-bei-der-Bundesbank-Tanz-um-die-Blockchain-2533889.html
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January 31, 2015, 12:13:28 PM
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today is the day when van saberhagen is talking about his whitepaper isn't it? anyone there?
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January 31, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
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Update?  Was it a big nothingburger?

"He" Skyped in, but audio only.



Apparently the audio was terrible, they held the microphone to a laptop speaker.



Such technologiez.

Pics are via @bitcoinpotato on Twitter.

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January 31, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
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BCN/CN.org-gang DDOSed my tiny, private VPS. Which I use just for IRC. Hostname/PTR-record is "cryptonote.co".

Fun. If you PM me I can get it setup on our infrastructure, forwarding to monero.cc, but you'll be unable to use it as your host mask on IRC (Freenode needs the reverse DNS / PTR records to match the forward DNS).

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January 31, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
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Update?  Was it a big nothingburger?

"He" Skyped in, but audio only.



Apparently the audio was terrible, they held the microphone to a laptop speaker.



Such technologiez.

Pics are via @bitcoinpotato on Twitter.

Lucky me. Was beating myself for forgetting to attend this conference, as I happened to be in Frankfurt that day.  Cheesy
Does anyone have a recording?
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January 31, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
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I was at this conference, and although there were several interesting talks (bitcoin related and P2P lending platforms), the cryptonote related talk wasn't particularly interesting and you could see the crowd kind of switched off.

edit: The conference was not filmed.
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January 31, 2015, 02:31:51 PM
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I was at this conference, and although there were several interesting talks (bitcoin related and P2P lending platforms), the cryptonote related talk wasn't particularly interesting and you could see the crowd kind of switched off.

edit: The conference was not filmed.

Well that was anticlimactic  Lips sealed
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January 31, 2015, 04:44:32 PM
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Is there any differences between Monero and Darknote?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788916.0

Darknote has all things that Monero has. But monero does not have good price as Darknote.

DarkNote was previously DuckNote, and was basically instamined by the CN crew who realized that the BCN premine would never sell so they tried to make a new coin with a crazy distribution, then rebadge it and resell it. It's more or less the same as BCN.

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January 31, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
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In case you are wondering if opacity (=Monero) in blockchain-powered IoT matters:

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/how-the-pentagons-skynet-would-automate-war
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This also, on a transhumanist ground, calls for more funding on preventing unfriendly AI (Ellon Musk: "something dangerous” happening in five years due to “close to exponential” growth of AI at the firm).
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January 31, 2015, 06:17:01 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2015, 01:47:42 AM by David Latapie
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Someone on reddit asked help for improving the presence of Monero on Wikipedia. The Wikipedia pillar of neutrality of point of view strongly discourages biased people to edit the page for other things than correcting factual errors. But nothing prevents me to propose a draft on the talk page that could be made into a correct article later by someone else less involved in Monero

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:CryptoNote#Monero

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January 31, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
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Also, did anyone noticed minergate.com (registed by "Sophia Wright") resambles the cryptonote website theme and they link Monero to a weird website called bitmonero.org, that is only also listed on cryptonote.org/coins. And according to this website:

Yes, Minergate is obviously run by the same crew of bytecoin scammers. Barely anyone had a chance to even compile bytecoin when it was "discovered" and they were already operating a pool (10% pool fee originally btw).

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January 31, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
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Is there any differences between Monero and Darknote?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788916.0

Darknote has all things that Monero has. But monero does not have good price as Darknote.

DarkNote was previously DuckNote, and was basically instamined by the CN crew who realized that the BCN premine would never sell so they tried to make a new coin with a crazy distribution, then rebadge it and resell it. It's more or less the same as BCN.

Also, did anyone noticed minergate.com (registed by "Sophia Wright") resambles the cryptonote website theme and they link Monero to a weird website called bitmonero.org, that is only also listed on cryptonote.org/coins. And according to this website: http://community.spiceworks.com/people/nicolasvansaberhagen/projects/cryptonote The cryptonote was completed on June 3rd, 2014 not even close to 2012 !

Yeah, Bitmonero was rebranded as Monero by the community. There's a whole background story on this. The cryptonote people must still own that bitmonero.org domain. I see that it's still hosting links to the old bitmonero binaries. Someone really should get minergate.com to change the link, if they aren't, themselves, part of the cryptonote scam crew, of course.
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February 01, 2015, 02:37:26 AM
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Is there any differences between Monero and Darknote?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788916.0

Darknote has all things that Monero has. But monero does not have good price as Darknote.

DarkNote was previously DuckNote, and was basically instamined by the CN crew who realized that the BCN premine would never sell so they tried to make a new coin with a crazy distribution, then rebadge it and resell it. It's more or less the same as BCN.

That is untrue statement. But you tell it with such a confidence, only 2 ways here: you are a liar or you are a paranoid. But any way you are stupit, sorry, but it is true. i will explain:
1. You can research the XDN difficulty chart,  ask forum folks here about mining XDN since 1st block. Ask smooth, seems he liked XDN and mined it since first blocks and he can confirm that.
2. "Insta" , instant - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant  - "An instant is an infinitesimal moment in time, a moment whose passage is instantaneous."

It takes 1 month to reach each reward halving. And media was absolutely active in the very first 3 months after launch.
DarkNote is improving CryptoNote with less transaction size (by reward structure), new state-of-the-art cryptography with encrypted end-to-end messaging and eventually advanced DarkNote GUI wallet (client). While you just talking blablabla and blaming devs around your. NO CryptoNote improvements from the side of Monero, NO new features, nothing, just a  bullshit talking and blaming. All you can do is just a services around original source code, like web wallets. All XMR success is made with anger and mad sadness about your own helplessness in coin development.

3. It is very interesting, that you are blaming DarkNote in instamine, again, after such a fair launch, while you Monero guys actually have a serious problems with initial botnets mining and difficulty jump caused by it. Looks smart, isn't it - Botnets+Black piar+Bag holders = Monero.
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind" William Shakespeare

P.S. Initially we  liked everything about Monero, we even had 2 letters for you guys with cooperation offer and our thoughts about CN technology, but we decided to look at your actions first, now we are happy that it was done, and after reading your confidence lie i can only call your coin "morono", i hope you understand the roots of my thoughts: XMR is bagholded, blackpiared and botnet mined.

P.P.S. Every time i will find such a groundless accusations from aside of a liar i will parry the attack, au revoir.


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February 01, 2015, 03:16:17 AM
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What does "blackpiared" mean?
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1. You can research the XDN difficulty chart,  ask forum folks here about mining XDN since 1st block. Ask smooth, seems he liked XDN and mined it since first blocks and he can confirm that.

It is true that I mined XDN from the beginning and there was no premine. However, you will note that tacotime didn't claim a premine, he claimed an instamine. Now on that score I must still respectfully disagree with him and agree with you. An instamine generally refers to the case where difficulty adjustment doesn't kick in fast enough and an enormous number of coins are mined quickly at very low difficulty (for example, DRK, where 25% were mined on the first day or something). The XDN difficulty adjustment worked well and the number of coins mined at the beginning was more or less in line with the published schedule, so I wouldn't call that an instamine.

It is also true that one month for reward having is an extremely fast reward schedule. I'd more properly call that a "fast mine."  Finally, it is also true that the ducknote->darknote rebrand, which one might imagine was planned from the start, happened after a few of these reward cuts meaning the bulk of the coins had been mined by the time the somewhat silly meme branding that many dismissed (though I did indeed like) was taken off and the more credible branding added. I understand that you have claimed other reasons for this reward schedule, yet the fact remains that nearly all of the coins were mined before darkNote existed.

P.S. Various comments are made and opinions expressed on the forum. Is it really necessary to respond in such a hostile and defensive manner when you disagree with something?

P.P.S. Are you affiliated with bytecoin or cryptonote in any way?
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February 01, 2015, 03:48:23 AM
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It seems those who are threatened often show up at your house to bash you.  DuckNote, DarkNote, DuckButter, DickCoin or whatever you call it now has the value of a turd off a dogs ass.  Sometimes I wish people would just stick to their business instead of coming over here bashing what they can't be. 

I've found this community to be very supportive and especially the dev team. All of whom have helped me and answered questions.  I would ask you sir to now "Piss Off"


 

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February 01, 2015, 03:52:22 AM
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Dear XDN,
Half the mining pools you have listed in your thread won't open or are off line. I wonder if someone didn't pay the hosting bill?

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February 01, 2015, 04:33:38 AM
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and after reading your confidence lie i can only call your coin "morono", i hope you understand the roots of my thoughts: XMR is bagholded, blackpiared and botnet mined.

P.P.S. Every time i will find such a groundless accusations from aside of a liar i will parry the attack, au revoir.

Okay real mature guys

How about all cryptonote devs and backers not act like pre-teens. Our technology is better than any bitcoin fork. There aren't that many cryptonote forks (yet) and we can work together. There really isn't a point in competing as we are already in the lion's den with people wanting an anonymous cryptocurrency but want it to be bitcoin, even though it isn't and can never be.
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