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December 29, 2014, 03:25:42 AM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

My aim is not to dump. Actually, my aim is to help create real liquidity for XMR. As you may have noticed, you can't buy or sell more than a few BTC worth of XMR without moving the price 10%. I plan to change that by putting up more bids and asks closer to the spot price. That's why I need to move my coins.

EDIT: I have cooled down now. Poloniex can have another chance.

I would be wiling to add liquidity to Poloniex, how can I help?

Just add more bids in BTC and add more asks in XMR. 

well yes, but there could be a general market making strategy we could be following. Or an algorithmic approach we could program
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December 29, 2014, 03:33:34 AM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

My aim is not to dump. Actually, my aim is to help create real liquidity for XMR. As you may have noticed, you can't buy or sell more than a few BTC worth of XMR without moving the price 10%. I plan to change that by putting up more bids and asks closer to the spot price. That's why I need to move my coins.

EDIT: I have cooled down now. Poloniex can have another chance.

I would be wiling to add liquidity to Poloniex, how can I help?

Just add more bids in BTC and add more asks in XMR.  

well yes, but there could be a general market making strategy we could be following. Or an algorithmic approach we could program

Ideally, we would use market making bots of our own specifications, but I'm no good at programming unfortunately.

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December 29, 2014, 04:08:30 AM
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On Linux I'm getting:
Can't load blockchain storage from file, generating genesis block.
When starting the daemon, and it never seems to finish or use any resources.
I deleted everything but my wallet and keys from the folder I keep the daemon and wallet in, nothing in .bitmonero

If there is nothing in .bitmonero then you don't have a local blockchain (blockchain.bin), and you also don't have a list of peer nodes (p2pstate.bin).

Something seems to be wrong with the build in seeds, so you need to specify a seed node on the command line. You'll only need to do this once, then you will have a p2pstate.bin file that will get you connected.

Try

bitmonerod --seed-node 182.92.104.160:18080
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bitmonerod --seed-node 74.192.120.8:18080

These are not official seed nodes, just currently active nodes that appear stable.



Thanks for the help smooth.
I'm now running into the same issue as before.
I first tried with no blockchain download, and it halted on
Can't load blockchain storage from file, generating genesis block.
For hours and also refused to be killed using sudo killall bitmonerod
I downloaded the blockchain and now I get this with the same issues as above.


2014-Dec-29 03:51:01.154578 Starting...
2014-Dec-29 03:51:01.170116 bitmonero v0.8.8.6-release
2014-Dec-29 03:51:01.176144 Module folder: ./bitmonerod
2014-Dec-29 03:51:01.179816 Initializing P2P server...
2014-Dec-29 03:51:02.443569 Binding on 0.0.0.0:18080
2014-Dec-29 03:51:02.443881 Net service bound to 0.0.0.0:18080
2014-Dec-29 03:51:02.444007 Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449200 No IGD was found.
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449471 P2P server initialized OK
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449560 Initializing protocol...
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449602 Protocol initialized OK
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449640 Initializing core RPC server...
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.449790 Binding on 127.0.0.1:18081
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.450234 Core RPC server initialized OK on port: 18081
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.450380 Initializing core...
2014-Dec-29 03:51:06.450569 Loading blockchain...
Then stops there and stops using resources, have left it there for over an hour.


This is a high end system with 16GB of RAM.
I made sure it wasn't an issue with the system by running fantomcoind which had no issues.

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December 29, 2014, 04:55:24 AM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

My aim is not to dump. Actually, my aim is to help create real liquidity for XMR. As you may have noticed, you can't buy or sell more than a few BTC worth of XMR without moving the price 10%. I plan to change that by putting up more bids and asks closer to the spot price. That's why I need to move my coins.

EDIT: I have cooled down now. Poloniex can have another chance.

I would be wiling to add liquidity to Poloniex, how can I help?

Just add more bids in BTC and add more asks in XMR.  

well yes, but there could be a general market making strategy we could be following. Or an algorithmic approach we could program

Ideally, we would use market making bots of our own specifications, but I'm no good at programming unfortunately.

mainly, I was wondering what you plan to do when you get filled? or in a fast market rising or falling

PM me

I can at least double the liquidity
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December 29, 2014, 07:32:10 AM
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This is a high end system with 16GB of RAM.
I made sure it wasn't an issue with the system by running fantomcoind which had no issues.

Did you try the --seed-node options I posted? With or without a stored blockchain, you still need to be able to connect the p2p. That requires either seed nodes or a valid p2pstate.bin file.

Try the "print_cn" command to see if you have any connections. If you have none, then you are having a problem connecting. That might be seed node related, or perhaps firewall/security software.

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December 29, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
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How do I get my daily poloniex withdraw limit increased?

I don't have enough on Poloniex right now to get that message pop up, but I've seen it before. Who do I email?

They have a support ticket system. I would start there.

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December 29, 2014, 07:36:31 AM
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I just checked my withdrawal of a few weeks ago from Poloniex and they used a mixin of 1.  The tx id shows a larger amount than I received so I guess there were others included in the tx.  The tx was composed of 90 inputs and 8 outputs.  Four of the outputs were mine, one for each place value.  Is this the situation that will cause problems transferring from my wallet?

No that is just fine. You have only 4 outputs, so no issue at all with needing too many to spend your coins.

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How important is it to transfer the coins received from Polo and what is a proper mixin #?  I know these 2 questions were covered a while ago but it is not clear to me now.

At this point I wouldn't worry about it unless you personally are concerned about these particular transactions being traceable. For the most part it probably doesn't really matter to you, especially since no one can find them even if they have your public address (unless you provide a txid).

If you do want to make them untraceable, then send to another wallet with a mix factor of at least 3. The higher the better for untraceability (more possible alternate sources are added) but at the cost of making the transaction bigger and therefore higher fee.


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December 29, 2014, 02:32:58 PM
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Where can I download 0.8.8.4 for windows?
I need to update my wallet files, 0.8.8.6 does not work with wallet.bin.keys.

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Last edit: December 29, 2014, 08:59:02 PM by PeaMine
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This is a high end system with 16GB of RAM.
I made sure it wasn't an issue with the system by running fantomcoind which had no issues.

Did you try the --seed-node options I posted? With or without a stored blockchain, you still need to be able to connect the p2p. That requires either seed nodes or a valid p2pstate.bin file.

Try the "print_cn" command to see if you have any connections. If you have none, then you are having a problem connecting. That might be seed node related, or perhaps firewall/security software.



I switched to Ubuntu 14 which didn't have this issue.
However now my wallet.bin and then wallet.bin.keys don't seem to work, and there are around 100XMR on here(after I lost around 200XMR from this exact same issue when upgrading versions few months ago).
Here is the output of simplewallet.log:
You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format is being upgraded now.

2014-Dec-29 20:49:36.985156 file not found: wallet.bin, starting with empty blockchain
2014-Dec-29 20:49:36.985176 Opened wallet: mywalletaddress
You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format is being upgraded now.
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389197 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:619 !boost::filesystem::exists(m_wallet_file, ignored_ec). THROW EXCEPTION: error::file_not_found
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389214 /root/monero-build/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:619:N5tools5error15file_error_baseILi1EEE: file not found "wallet.bin"
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389288 Error: failed to load wallet: file not found "wallet.bin"
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389313 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp:429 could not open account
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389324 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp:1381 Failed to initialize wallet


Same issue still, I tried both the seeds you posted.
This is the correct command for Linux?
./bitmonerod --seed-node 74.192.120.8:18080
The window I run this in stops responding to any command, even Ctrl C or killall, so print_cn does not work.
Tried to run another ./bitmonerod print_cn
but it fails and says it can't start as the IP address is now in use.

Also I tried building from source, the README.md from github says:
**Basic Process:**

* To build, change to the root of the source code directory, and run `make`.
* The resulting executables can be found in `build/release/src` or `build/debug/src`, depending on what you're building.

However I'm unable to find any executable anywhere after a successful make.

I've mined around 600XMR since the start and have been able to spend only half of it, if I lose this wallet, I'm done with XMR for good.


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December 29, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/
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December 29, 2014, 08:40:06 PM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

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December 29, 2014, 10:13:54 PM
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This is a high end system with 16GB of RAM.
I made sure it wasn't an issue with the system by running fantomcoind which had no issues.

Did you try the --seed-node options I posted? With or without a stored blockchain, you still need to be able to connect the p2p. That requires either seed nodes or a valid p2pstate.bin file.

Try the "print_cn" command to see if you have any connections. If you have none, then you are having a problem connecting. That might be seed node related, or perhaps firewall/security software.



I switched to Ubuntu 14 which didn't have this issue.
However now my wallet.bin and then wallet.bin.keys don't seem to work, and there are around 100XMR on here(after I lost around 200XMR from this exact same issue when upgrading versions few months ago).
Here is the output of simplewallet.log:
You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format is being upgraded now.

2014-Dec-29 20:49:36.985156 file not found: wallet.bin, starting with empty blockchain
2014-Dec-29 20:49:36.985176 Opened wallet: mywalletaddress
You had been using a deprecated version of the wallet. Your wallet file format is being upgraded now.
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389197 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:619 !boost::filesystem::exists(m_wallet_file, ignored_ec). THROW EXCEPTION: error::file_not_found
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389214 /root/monero-build/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:619:N5tools5error15file_error_baseILi1EEE: file not found "wallet.bin"
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389288 Error: failed to load wallet: file not found "wallet.bin"
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389313 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp:429 could not open account
2014-Dec-29 20:53:20.389324 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp:1381 Failed to initialize wallet


Same issue still, I tried both the seeds you posted.
This is the correct command for Linux?
./bitmonerod --seed-node 74.192.120.8:18080
The window I run this in stops responding to any command, even Ctrl C or killall, so print_cn does not work.
Tried to run another ./bitmonerod print_cn
but it fails and says it can't start as the IP address is now in use.

Also I tried building from source, the README.md from github says:
**Basic Process:**

* To build, change to the root of the source code directory, and run `make`.
* The resulting executables can be found in `build/release/src` or `build/debug/src`, depending on what you're building.

However I'm unable to find any executable anywhere after a successful make.

I've mined around 600XMR since the start and have been able to spend only half of it, if I lose this wallet, I'm done with XMR for good.



I don't know if this will help, but sometimes my executables end up in a /bin directory.

are your wallet files backed up on a USB key? And you should be able to rebuild your wallet based on the mnemonic seed, right? Even for your original wallet. 

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December 29, 2014, 10:27:59 PM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

I would argue that it is a beneficial, pro-social application, and would make XMR awareness grow within an important, activist demographic.



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December 30, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

I would argue that it is a beneficial, pro-social application, and would make XMR awareness grow within an important, activist demographic.


welp, its not like we have any control over who uses the currency. Its only a matter of time (if slur.io gets off the ground) before people realize that bitcoin is easily traced and they start looking for alternatives.

Interesting application of cryptocurrency though.

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December 30, 2014, 01:12:56 AM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

I would argue that it is a beneficial, pro-social application, and would make XMR awareness grow within an important, activist demographic.


welp, its not like we have any control over who uses the currency. Its only a matter of time (if slur.io gets off the ground) before people realize that bitcoin is easily traced and they start looking for alternatives.

Interesting application of cryptocurrency though.

Muther of fuckery. When the Alphabet Agencies get wind of this then a shit storm will ensue. I would expect it to occur on the first sale of something incriminating and juicy for the media.

EDIT: as per a commentator: Unless the Disseminator of the info can be validated then all kinds of false releases will occur for the quick buck.

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Will there be a Missive Today/Tonight?

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December 30, 2014, 02:03:16 AM
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The odds are 1 out of 7 Smiley

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December 30, 2014, 02:41:32 AM
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The odds are 1 out of 7 Smiley

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December 30, 2014, 02:43:17 AM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

I would argue that it is a beneficial, pro-social application, and would make XMR awareness grow within an important, activist demographic.


welp, its not like we have any control over who uses the currency. Its only a matter of time (if slur.io gets off the ground) before people realize that bitcoin is easily traced and they start looking for alternatives.

Interesting application of cryptocurrency though.

Muther of fuckery. When the Alphabet Agencies get wind of this then a shit storm will ensue. I would expect it to occur on the first sale of something incriminating and juicy for the media.

EDIT: as per a commentator: Unless the Disseminator of the info can be validated then all kinds of false releases will occur for the quick buck.

Nothing really new, other than the medium/method of exchange for the info/currency.

You do realize that journalists write articles every single day where they relay information from individuals "closely involved in the project" etc., correct?
In some cases the identity of the source of the info is actually unknown to the journalist.
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December 30, 2014, 03:03:13 AM
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Yet another showcase where Monero could safe-the-day by preserving anonymity: http://slur.io

ADD: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/slur-io-going-hate/

Not sure if the association with such a thing would be worth it. Bringing XMR into this kind of mix would only create a bad image for the coin.

I would argue that it is a beneficial, pro-social application, and would make XMR awareness grow within an important, activist demographic.


welp, its not like we have any control over who uses the currency. Its only a matter of time (if slur.io gets off the ground) before people realize that bitcoin is easily traced and they start looking for alternatives.

Interesting application of cryptocurrency though.

Muther of fuckery. When the Alphabet Agencies get wind of this then a shit storm will ensue. I would expect it to occur on the first sale of something incriminating and juicy for the media.

EDIT: as per a commentator: Unless the Disseminator of the info can be validated then all kinds of false releases will occur for the quick buck.

Nothing really new, other than the medium/method of exchange for the info/currency.

You do realize that journalists write articles every single day where they relay information from individuals "closely involved in the project" etc., correct?
In some cases the identity of the source of the info is actually unknown to the journalist.

IN the USA, under law, journalists are no longer allowed to keep sources confidential. http://rt.com/usa/nyt-risen-leak-espionage-336/

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