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February 10, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
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Always seems like the price goes down when there are no missives.  Shocked

The price has been going down with and without missives, including missives that announced major new developments like MyMonero. I don't see a correlation.

IIRC, the MyMonero announcement coincided with a rally to .0016x or so.

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February 10, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
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Always seems like the price goes down when there are no missives.  Shocked

The price has been going down with and without missives, including missives that announced major new developments like MyMonero. I don't see a correlation.

IIRC, the MyMonero announcement coincided with a rally to .0016x or so.

Nope. MyMonero was announced November 25, but the rally didn't happen until very late December (starting around the 23rd, peaking around the 29th). From November 25 to December 21 the price dropped from 0.00145 to 0.001 -- almost straight down too. And a week or two earlier it was about 0.002, so 0.00145 was already a pretty big drop.

The price action seems to have been driven mostly by supply and demand, and possibly external factors affecting cryptocurrencies as an asset class, but very little if any by actual development news.
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February 10, 2015, 12:20:45 PM
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I received only two answers by posting on the MEW channels, so I will post here:

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We are considering changing the URL of the MEW website.

Presently, it is xmrmonero.com, mainly because we had it available by then Smiley

What we have at our disposal: xmrmonero.com gomonero.com xmr-monero.com go-monero.com

We have to consider both SEO and branding. Starting with "xmr" seems better SEO wise (if there is a dash); starting with "go" seems better branding-wise (the dashed version would probably also help for SEO on "monero").

"Go monero" can be understand as the traditional encouragement, or like the injonction (like "gone Google").

Any feedback appreciated
On IRC, one person implied he prefers gomonero -or go-monero, I don't remember)
On the MEW thead, one person said he prefers xmr-monero, because gomonero looks like a cheerleading name.

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February 10, 2015, 01:06:08 PM
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@davidlatapie:
I saw your other posts on this same topic, but didn't respond as I feel divided. Haven't figured out a personal preference myself yet...
It's great that you're asking for community feedback on this one, especially as the MEW website is an outwards facing project.

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February 10, 2015, 01:44:23 PM
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I received only two answers by posting on the MEW channels, so I will post here:

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We are considering changing the URL of the MEW website.

Presently, it is xmrmonero.com, mainly because we had it available by then Smiley

What we have at our disposal: xmrmonero.com gomonero.com xmr-monero.com go-monero.com

We have to consider both SEO and branding. Starting with "xmr" seems better SEO wise (if there is a dash); starting with "go" seems better branding-wise (the dashed version would probably also help for SEO on "monero").

"Go monero" can be understand as the traditional encouragement, or like the injonction (like "gone Google").

Any feedback appreciated
On IRC, one person implied he prefers gomonero -or go-monero, I don't remember)
On the MEW thead, one person said he prefers xmr-monero, because gomonero looks like a cheerleading name.

Your turn!

xmr-monero.com

xmr is required because it is Monero's currency code
'-' is required because it splits two words for google search
monero is required obviously
.com is required becaus MEW is related with commerce.
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February 10, 2015, 02:02:35 PM
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I received only two answers by posting on the MEW channels, so I will post here:

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We are considering changing the URL of the MEW website.

Presently, it is xmrmonero.com, mainly because we had it available by then Smiley

What we have at our disposal: xmrmonero.com gomonero.com xmr-monero.com go-monero.com

We have to consider both SEO and branding. Starting with "xmr" seems better SEO wise (if there is a dash); starting with "go" seems better branding-wise (the dashed version would probably also help for SEO on "monero").

"Go monero" can be understand as the traditional encouragement, or like the injonction (like "gone Google").

Any feedback appreciated
On IRC, one person implied he prefers gomonero -or go-monero, I don't remember)
On the MEW thead, one person said he prefers xmr-monero, because gomonero looks like a cheerleading name.

Your turn!

xmr-monero.com

xmr is required because it is Monero's currency code
'-' is required because it splits two words for google search
monero is required obviously
.com is required becaus MEW is related with commerce.


I would take them all. Why not having multiple addresses? Then it wouldn't matter which one is the main one (obviously there needs to be a main server). Moreover, supporters could easily register their own Monero-www-address and link it to some of the official sites.



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February 10, 2015, 02:19:21 PM
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or, yah know, we could petition The Powers That Be (TPTB(c)) to make .xmr a domain.

but that might be a future thing.

yeah, i'd go with xmr-monero.com
and get all the other domains you have to point at it

speaking of, when i get home today I'll point paymonero.com to something. (which is funny because in half english / esperanto its paycoin. lulz)

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February 10, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
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I would take them all. Why not having multiple addresses? Then it wouldn't matter which one is the main one (obviously there needs to be a main server). Moreover, supporters could easily register their own Monero-www-address and link it to some of the official sites.
We already have them all, but only one will be canonical, the others will be 301 redirect.

@davidlatapie:
I saw your other posts on this same topic, but didn't respond as I feel divided. Haven't figured out a personal preference myself yet...
It's great that you're asking for community feedback on this one, especially as the MEW website is an outwards facing project.
Votes are reset with the new proposal, so please restated your vote (be it the same or the new contestant).

New list
Please vote for only one (othe domain name may be redirected, recycled...). This is the one for the MEW website - it should only be open to MEW members to choose, but since I did not get much answers...
Note that this is vote is still purely consultative. The final say is by MEW members.
Update: voters can mention one particular post (that they pledge to update) for rationale for their choice. Remember than you can change your vote (but then, you must explain why).

Update: voters can mention one particular post (that they pledge to update) for rationale for their choice. Remember than you can change your vote (but then, you must explain why).
Votes without a link date from before the arrangement. Remember to follow the voter's links before voting since at least some of them gave rationales about their choice, rationales that could help you choose better. There are also some very interesting discussions on the MEW thread relative to SEO and URL branding, I encourage you to read them too.
Undashed versions:
gomonero.com: (0)
mewmonero.com: (0)
moneroeconomyworkgroup.com: (0)
moneroeconomy.com:  (5) David Latapie, binaryFate, GingerAle, warptangent (on IRC),  Lloydimiller4
moneromew.com: (0)
xmreconomy.com: (0)
xmrmonero.com: (4) smooth, 5w00p, Shrikez, papa_lazzarou

Dashed versions:
go-monero.com: (0)
mew-monero.com: (1) Hueristic
monero-economy-workgroup.com: (1) arnuschky
monero-economy.com: (4) NeuroticFish, Jojatekok, equipoise, aminorex
monero-mew.com: (4) Moneromoo, GreekBitcoin, primer-, Quicken
xmr-economy.com: (0)

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February 10, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
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monero-mew.com is just fine.
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February 10, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
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xmr-economy.com or monero-economy.com may sound better / more professional than monero mew (which sound like monero meow)...
mew can stay in website meta to be found by search engines.

...Just an idea, not sure if others said this before.

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Updated and added NeuroticFish's proposals. So you can change your vote if you wish. Neuroti, please state the one you would vote for.

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February 10, 2015, 05:35:59 PM
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My vote is for xmr-monero.com, but as I seem to note that florida.haunted's and at least one other's votes for it seem to be missing from the list, I ask:

Must one be a MEW member to cast a counted vote?
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February 10, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
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monero-economy.com

i also agree that mew just isn't phonetically pleasing.

http://imtranslator.net/translate-and-speak/

XMR Economy Workgroup

I edited my vote.

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Light wallet, with full functionality Grin



Breaking news!
(No, it's not yet another ordinary release Wink)

Monero Client v0.41.0 has just been released! With the separation of my API and GUI integration of Monero Core's RPC functions, I was able to successfully distinct process and network communication management, thus, resulting in a long-anticipated feature added to the client. Let me present the changelog of today's new release:

  • Added a way to use remote processes: From now, you are not obeyed to host your own daemon instance, but can rely on an open node. This results in a much lower overall memory footprint on your system, thus, the application should cause no more losses in computing performance

    How to use a remote daemon?
    • First, you need to look for an open node which can be used as a reliable remote server (for example: node.moneroclub.com:8880)
    • After that, open Monero Client .NET, and then select Settings -> Options -> Network from the menu
    • Paste the information of the selected node as seen on the image below:

  • Enabled the usage of proxies
  • Balances in the 'Send coins' tab are now selectable
  • Fixed a bug which prevented the account data files from saving



Please consider donating to one of the addresses in my signature if you like this update or want to support further development.

Code:
Monero  (XMR): 47hK4gehaMrFTQCiV5FEmM54hpqTrdHudb9nUBG88NicBDpxH4TGuh3TmW84Dc6dpMiEiBLGvJCuT3xC3LNHctmx7mG8NLM
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February 10, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
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I vote for xmr-monero.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg10418574#msg10418574

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February 10, 2015, 07:58:38 PM
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Nice work Jojatekok!

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February 10, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
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Votes are reset with the new proposal, so please restated your vote (be it the same or the new contestant).

New list
Please vote for only one (othe domain name may be redirected, recycled...). This is the one for the MEW website - it should only be open to MEW members to choose, but since I did not get much answers...
monero-mew.com: (5) David Latapie, Moneromoo, Jojatetok, GreekBitcoin, Lloydimiller4
xmr-monero.com: (0)
xmrmonero.com: (0)
go-monero.com: (0)
gomonero.com: (0)
xmr-economy.com: (0)
monero-economy.com: (0)

I might be nitpicky about these things, but monero-mew.com translates in my head to "monero monero economy workgroup".  Undecided
Same goes for the "xmr monero" proposals, seems redundant and even worse, quite unspecific.

I like the "go-monero" proposal in general, but to me it seems like a general way of promoting Monero. Would be a good domain name used by the MEW to promote Monero, but not for the MEW itself. (Slightly guessing here, as not involved in MEW atm).

xmr/monero-economy is again very general. I like it better than the other proposals, but still... What about being more specific? Like monero-economy-workgroup.com? It's long, but who cares - nobody types URLs anymore anyway.

A pity that .group's sunrise period isn't announced yet, I quite like xmr-economy.group. Cheesy
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February 10, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
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No it doesn't. If it can't be used for illegal purposes then it's worthless. The point of decentralized crypto is to protect us from unjust laws and allow us to decide for ourselves what is right and what isn't. That's what freedom is all about.

Respectfully disagree. The Bitcoin blockchain is set up to easily allow someone who knows any addresses belonging to you to see who has given you money and where you are sending it. This is unacceptable from a privacy standpoint -- you would never accept a bank publishing all your transactions out in the clear. This is precisely why Monero exists, to be actual virtual cash.

And, in any case, if you believe that there is a 100% foolproof system for payments that you can use to break any law you'd like to that exists online... well, I would say you'll probably find out soon enough that that's a bad idea the hard way.

It's hard to tell if you actually believe what you're saying or if you're just attempting to limit your liability. I certainly can't fault you for that.

But stealth addressing alone is plenty sufficient for the issues you describe: protecting your privacy from your "neighbor". However, it's not our neighbors we're concerned about. It's our brothers.

Privacy is not about lawbreaking, its about privacy.  Confusion on this matter seems... weird (and possibly RICO engendering).
Stealth addressing is only a part.  When Bitcoin has stealth addresses on by default, (or forced on), within the protocol.  That would provide some part of the privacy picture.

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February 10, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
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My vote is for xmr-monero.com, but as I seem to note that florida.haunted's and at least one other's votes for it seem to be missing from the list, I ask:

Must one be a MEW member to cast a counted vote?
I reseted the vote, but it seems like a bad idea, since 1) new ideas are being proposed constantly 2) it is understood as restricted voting.
So I will just add everyone, and I leave it to early voters to decide if they want to change their vote at the light of the new proposals.

The list is updated with feedback from both the ANN and the MEW thread - the votes on the two URL below have kept in sync. Please everyone review if your intent is on par with what is written.

As an exceptional measure, everyone has an equal footing: 1000 votes or 0 vote (not a MEW member), your vote count as much.

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I vote xmr-monero.com should be reserved for a future project. MEW is disappointing IMO

MEW-Monero.com is perfect

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