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May 12, 2016, 05:54:35 PM
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any progress on the GUI?

You can follow the progess here:

https://github.com/mbg033/bitmonero

https://github.com/mbg033/monero-core

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May 12, 2016, 09:01:06 PM
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MiniNero Web Demo (Youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8o9uNb_jc

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Working on Chrome / Edge / Firefox desktop and mobile, although failed my single Safari test. If any potential users have Apple devices and want to help me debug that, pm me (I have only limited access to apple devices for testing.)

Source: https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNodo

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4j2hr1/mininero_web_demo_youtube/

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May 13, 2016, 12:51:04 AM
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Probably a question that does not make much sense, I am not aware of the details: in regards to the GUI client -- does the team plan to release APIs? IMO it would be splendid if one is able to "speak" to the daemon by any widespread format (JSON for instance).
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May 13, 2016, 01:59:34 AM
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Probably a question that does not make much sense, I am not aware of the details: in regards to the GUI client -- does the team plan to release APIs? IMO it would be splendid if one is able to "speak" to the daemon by any widespread format (JSON for instance).

These might be the droids you are looking for

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/daemon-rpc

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/wallet-rpc

props to Bigred for documenting them, and the community for funding.

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May 13, 2016, 03:23:45 AM
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Probably a question that does not make much sense, I am not aware of the details: in regards to the GUI client -- does the team plan to release APIs? IMO it would be splendid if one is able to "speak" to the daemon by any widespread format (JSON for instance).

These might be the droids you are looking for

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/daemon-rpc

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/wallet-rpc

props to Bigred for documenting them, and the community for funding.

Exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks mate!
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May 13, 2016, 10:24:07 PM
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Do you have a referral code you would like used? How safe is this russian site?

No, I just noticed their message on twitter. I cannot make statements regarding that unfortunately, since I don't have sufficient information.

I have a referral code but prefer not to share it because my goal was not to make money from this. Monero needs to be listed on more exchanges. Although the original Tweet came from me, I not affiliated with livecoin in any way. I  know several people who use the exchange and are satisfied with it.

Keep voting!

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Do you have a referral code you would like used? How safe is this russian site?

No, I just noticed their message on twitter. I cannot make statements regarding that unfortunately, since I don't have sufficient information.

I have a referral code but prefer not to share it because my goal was not to make money from this. Monero needs to be listed on more exchanges. Although the original Tweet came from me, I not affiliated with livecoin in any way. I  know several people who use the exchange and are satisfied with it.

Keep voting!

Any idea how high Monero currently is on the list? Or is there no visible list?

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May 13, 2016, 10:31:31 PM
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Do you have a referral code you would like used? How safe is this russian site?

No, I just noticed their message on twitter. I cannot make statements regarding that unfortunately, since I don't have sufficient information.

I have a referral code but prefer not to share it because my goal was not to make money from this. Monero needs to be listed on more exchanges. Although the original Tweet came from me, I not affiliated with livecoin in any way. I  know several people who use the exchange and are satisfied with it.

Keep voting!

Any idea how high Monero currently is on the list? Or is there no visible list?
When I looked at it, it was within the top 10, I think like 5th or so. I didn't vote because you need to either have a history of trading with them or "buy" votes.
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Do you have a referral code you would like used? How safe is this russian site?

No, I just noticed their message on twitter. I cannot make statements regarding that unfortunately, since I don't have sufficient information.

I have a referral code but prefer not to share it because my goal was not to make money from this. Monero needs to be listed on more exchanges. Although the original Tweet came from me, I not affiliated with livecoin in any way. I  know several people who use the exchange and are satisfied with it.

Keep voting!

Any idea how high Monero currently is on the list? Or is there no visible list?
When I looked at it, it was within the top 10, I think like 5th or so. I didn't vote because you need to either have a history of trading with them or "buy" votes.

I am not a fan of buying votes, but I can understand why they would want those with a trading history. They want to add coins that will be actively trading by their customers. DASH has reasonable volume there so I think we can assume this is a good opportunity for XMR.

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May 14, 2016, 04:47:35 PM
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"Monero semi-weekly dev meeting note highlights - 2016-05-08"

https://hellomonero.com/article/monero-semi-weekly-dev-meeting-note-highlights-2016-05-08

Thanks to aerbax!

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May 16, 2016, 12:17:24 PM
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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

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May 17, 2016, 04:42:43 AM
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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

Finally joined up; you are definitely right about not being able to find stuff so easily on here or reddit, so hopefully this board gets some momentum... maybe if you guys haven't already, we can start putting the questions and answers from the MAAM threads on reddit there so it can be more easily searchable on the web.

But I couldn't help to lol when I saw "fluffyponyza" asking a good chunk of the questions on there about "who created and launched Monero?" and "who is the company behind Monero, and how was it funded?"... either he's going ahead and asking the questions for the super new users that are just now coming here, or it's a very clever troll.
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May 17, 2016, 04:49:06 AM
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Crosspost of my own from reddit: https://redd.it/4jloss

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Hey guys, for those in need of a remote daemon I'm hosting a node at node.monerohash.com for public use.

Just run simplewallet with:
Code:
--daemon-host node.monerohash.com

I've also made it available through Tor at monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion so people can use it with torsocks:
Code:
torsocks ./simplewallet --daemon-host monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion

It has also been added to node.moneroworld.com which is u/gingeropolous' effort to provide a single point of entry for public nodes (more info at http://moneroworld.com)
 
I'll keep this node up for a while, depending on whether I see some real use in a few months or not, I might take it down.
If you would like to donate some moneroj to keep this node up, send them to 4JZVyE5uGeKP8JARRB5kttMQ65zYpFYAkienY8SVxpt6HuxnGuQTSTdKqCLsnh1iYwi53bqpLGVf8YQ nEzo9mFkjWcmifTUQ75pGNLJCjV

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May 17, 2016, 05:50:22 AM
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Crosspost of my own from reddit: https://redd.it/4jloss

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Hey guys, for those in need of a remote daemon I'm hosting a node at node.monerohash.com for public use.

Just run simplewallet with:
Code:
--daemon-host node.monerohash.com

I've also made it available through Tor at monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion so people can use it with torsocks:
Code:
torsocks ./simplewallet --daemon-host monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion

It has also been added to node.moneroworld.com which is u/gingeropolous' effort to provide a single point of entry for public nodes (more info at http://moneroworld.com)
 
I'll keep this node up for a while, depending on whether I see some real use in a few months or not, I might take it down.
If you would like to donate some moneroj to keep this node up, send them to 4JZVyE5uGeKP8JARRB5kttMQ65zYpFYAkienY8SVxpt6HuxnGuQTSTdKqCLsnh1iYwi53bqpLGVf8YQ nEzo9mFkjWcmifTUQ75pGNLJCjV

Just curious, how much monero is the node costing you to keep it up per month?
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May 17, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

Finally joined up; you are definitely right about not being able to find stuff so easily on here or reddit, so hopefully this board gets some momentum... maybe if you guys haven't already, we can start putting the questions and answers from the MAAM threads on reddit there so it can be more easily searchable on the web.

But I couldn't help to lol when I saw "fluffyponyza" asking a good chunk of the questions on there about "who created and launched Monero?" and "who is the company behind Monero, and how was it funded?"... either he's going ahead and asking the questions for the super new users that are just now coming here, or it's a very clever troll.

im pretty sure it is fluffypony. the purpose of the stack exchange at this point is to provide example questions and vote on them.

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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

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Please Support the Monero Stack Exchange!

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

TLDR:

1. Go to the above site (make an account if necessary) and follow using the orange button on top left.
2. Upvote a question you think should be on a Monero stack exchange site

Why start a Stack Exchange?

Monero is tough. Its tough for developers, its tough for users. Its tough for developers because the original code from bytecoin was purposefully undocumented, so when a person wants to work with Monero, they have to figure out how the code works first. This usually involves going to #monero-dev on IRC, but not everyone has time to do that, and sometimes the person with the answer isn't sitting in the chatroom. Hell, the monero community funded someone to go through and document the code - this is the state of things. Developing for Monero is tough.

Its tough for users in two ways - the primary client is command line only, and any current third party solution requires some fiddling. Sure, the GUI may solve this issue. The second way it is tough is its conceptually difficult. Hell, I still don't understand ring signatures or the upcoming ringCT, but I'm not a cryptographer. Will a SE fix this issue? Probably not. But it will create some good answers that may help.

What can a stack exchange do that this forum, our forum, or reddit can't?

It can provide a knowledge base of information that is easily updated, curated, and searchable. The problem with reddit, or this forum, or our forum, is that information gets lost. Unless debruyne is available to serve up one of his bookmarks for a given answer, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to search through the forums or Reddit to find an answer to a problem. More likely than not, someone had the same question you did, and someone provided an answer. But now that answers is gone. It wasn't added to our knowledge base on getmonero.org, and its lost in a thread.

With a stack exchange, a good question may lead to a good answer, and both the question and the answer get upvoted, and this information is findable in the future. Some random person that feels like tweaking monero a bit to increase its functionality can get all their questions answered without going to the chatrooms, because some people just don't like doing that I guess.

So, please goto the stackexchange, and vote on things that are under 10.  

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May 17, 2016, 06:59:32 PM
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Crosspost of my own from reddit: https://redd.it/4jloss

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Hey guys, for those in need of a remote daemon I'm hosting a node at node.monerohash.com for public use.

Just run simplewallet with:
Code:
--daemon-host node.monerohash.com

I've also made it available through Tor at monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion so people can use it with torsocks:
Code:
torsocks ./simplewallet --daemon-host monerobdyzaxfa4e.onion

It has also been added to node.moneroworld.com which is u/gingeropolous' effort to provide a single point of entry for public nodes (more info at http://moneroworld.com)
 
I'll keep this node up for a while, depending on whether I see some real use in a few months or not, I might take it down.
If you would like to donate some moneroj to keep this node up, send them to 4JZVyE5uGeKP8JARRB5kttMQ65zYpFYAkienY8SVxpt6HuxnGuQTSTdKqCLsnh1iYwi53bqpLGVf8YQ nEzo9mFkjWcmifTUQ75pGNLJCjV

Just curious, how much monero is the node costing you to keep it up per month?

This one right now is costing USD $3 per month, that's about 3.55 XMR at the current exchange rate. I got a promo code for a recurring discount on a new VPS provider, the original price is $4. The specs are: KVM virtualization, 512MB RAM (490 actually), 20GB SSD, 1 vCPU (3.3ghz). I thought I would give it a try, so far is good, the SSD performance is below what I was expecting but for that price I think it's still a good deal.

I'll see how it goes, maybe I'll use another provider in the future for a slightly higher cost ($3.60-$4.50)


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