[ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer

[chesthing]

what exactly is the problem here?

We will see if everything is legit once we verify the first order paid with uro right? Isn't that only days away from now? So much speculation, but we can actually just wait this one out.

What do you mean? if it proves to be legit there won't be any profit to be made as everyone will rush in. This is the time to work out whether it's legit or not.

[scambust]

Scambust: There is no CCTV related material on the old gescommodity.com website if you look back in time via the web archives/search engine caches. You will see its about a commodities company. Later, for easier management the websites where combined. Now gescommodity.com redirects to greenearthsystems.com.au - but that's is a technicality. If you ask for a link to the GES Limited (HK) website I will give you gescommodity.com.

Yes, GES owns a diverse range of businesses, including those that deal in the security, energy, commodities and agricultural sectors (as well as biotech, like quantum dots manufacturing) - it so happens that the CCTV business required more of a web presence then the other businesses, explaining why you found more links and web presence about that business.

For example - General Electric is active in the banking, medical and energy fields. Does that mean that patients should cry scam when they are being sold GE medicine because GE is "supposed" to be a electricity generation company?

https://web.archive.org/web/20130422122659/http://www.gescommodity.com/pages-L2/gesaust.html

And this one?  (click the Australian flag)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120113103649/http://greenearthsystems.com.au/

Please explain the existence of the 2003 article when GES wasn't even in commodities back then.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100505052317/http://www.greenearthsystems.com.au/

Ask the Australian Securities and Investments Commission to apologize for listing this notice https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD-132561132/e210ae84-3d23-4448-a2d0-6c2e218ee440


Like I said too many red flags. I'm done here. Good luck to buyers.

[davisgreen]

Thanks scambust for bringing all the links and the argument.
No one is forcing any1 to invest in uro. Please read through all that's been posted and make up ur own mind.
I say even b careful with bitcoin as well.. creator is still anonymous n it can b a ponzi scam.
Its in ur hands to press the buy n sell buttons and if u think uro or any other alt is or can b a scam make ur own informed decision.
Thanks

[true-asset]

Scambust: There is no CCTV related material on the old gescommodity.com website if you look back in time via the web archives/search engine caches. You will see its about a commodities company. Later, for easier management the websites where combined. Now gescommodity.com redirects to greenearthsystems.com.au - but that's is a technicality. If you ask for a link to the GES Limited (HK) website I will give you gescommodity.com.

Yes, GES owns a diverse range of businesses, including those that deal in the security, energy, commodities and agricultural sectors (as well as biotech, like quantum dots manufacturing) - it so happens that the CCTV business required more of a web presence then the other businesses, explaining why you found more links and web presence about that business.

For example - General Electric is active in the banking, medical and energy fields. Does that mean that patients should cry scam when they are being sold GE medicine because GE is "supposed" to be a electricity generation company?

https://web.archive.org/web/20130422122659/http://www.gescommodity.com/pages-L2/gesaust.html

And this one?  (click the Australian flag)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120113103649/http://greenearthsystems.com.au/

Please explain the existence of the 2003 article when GES wasn't even in commodities back then.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100505052317/http://www.greenearthsystems.com.au/

Ask the Australian Securities and Investments Commission to apologize for listing this notice https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD-132561132/e210ae84-3d23-4448-a2d0-6c2e218ee440


Like I said too many red flags

Scambust: It appears that you have defined a law that all commodities companies must have a website - even if they do not use it. Not having a website does not make your company illegitimate.

Why don't you dig up something about Green Earth Systems Limited (Hong Kong)? Perhaps because there is nothing wrong there? Remember it is the Hong Kong company that has ratified the Uro Protocol, not "Green Earth Systems Pty Ltd" in Australia.

[solid12345]

a whale with 70 btc of uro is pushing down prices to get some cheap uro I predict its going to hit 500k.

It's probably scambust or truthful themselves, all the money in the world and they still want more.

[wasobot]

Scambust: There is no CCTV related material on the old gescommodity.com website if you look back in time via the web archives/search engine caches. You will see its about a commodities company. Later, for easier management the websites where combined. Now gescommodity.com redirects to greenearthsystems.com.au - but that's is a technicality. If you ask for a link to the GES Limited (HK) website I will give you gescommodity.com.

Yes, GES owns a diverse range of businesses, including those that deal in the security, energy, commodities and agricultural sectors (as well as biotech, like quantum dots manufacturing) - it so happens that the CCTV business required more of a web presence then the other businesses, explaining why you found more links and web presence about that business.

For example - General Electric is active in the banking, medical and energy fields. Does that mean that patients should cry scam when they are being sold GE medicine because GE is "supposed" to be a electricity generation company?

https://web.archive.org/web/20130422122659/http://www.gescommodity.com/pages-L2/gesaust.html

And this one?  (click the Australian flag)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120113103649/http://greenearthsystems.com.au/

Please explain the existence of the 2003 article when GES wasn't even in commodities back then.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100505052317/http://www.greenearthsystems.com.au/

Ask the Australian Securities and Investments Commission to apologize for listing this notice https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD-132561132/e210ae84-3d23-4448-a2d0-6c2e218ee440


Like I said too many red flags. I'm done here. Good luck to buyers.

Strange when i click search in the official australian goverment page i find nothing, the link and notice is created from a link of a private company which asks you 50 USD  to view the details, but if you go to goverment page you cant find it, only find it through the private company...

By the way, the notice is for deregistering, not for insolvency, and why is it still registered after like 9 months ?

[true-asset]

This is the up to date info about company registration for the (irrelevant) Australian GES: http://www.abn.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=17132561132

The company's registration is active.

[aidanok]

Ok maybe we can leave this junk behind us now.

scambust has posted all of his research (in the most alarmist manner possible). People can look it over for themselves.

truthful has posted a list of questions, and had them answered. (even though I think they had ALL been answered before)

So we can move on.

[noucome008]

scambust and truthful is only one account and the other fudders as well they want to buy cheap and do some microtrading

[Truthful]

1. Is Nilesh Chandran Nair on left in picture sitting in chair with gold tie?

yes

2. Is Bohan Huang man in red shirt?

yes

3. Who are the other people in the picture?

Permission to publish their identities is being arranged, website will be updated early next week with this information

4. Who is or are the Directors of GES?
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgreenearthsystems.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Furo-found-ges%2Fdynamic%2FURO-FOUND-AWARD-2014-JUNE-SYDNEY-MR-NAIR-GES-nggid0287-ngg0dyn-200x130x100-00f0w010c011r110f110r010t010.jpg&t=541&c=sOqeaAfTXROFnA

You can find them in the following links (you need to scroll down the page to see everyone):

http://greenearthsystems.com.au/commodities/green-earth-systems-egypt/
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/commodities/green-earth-systems-australia/

5. Is the main office of GES at Rydalmere?

No, its in Hong Kong:

Green Earth Systems Limited
Registration Number: 1682761
Address: Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong
E-mail: hk@greenearthsystems.com.au

6. Are GES and Impact Investigations and Security seen as one and the same company?

No, separate companies

7. How is the coin legal in Australia, Pakistan and India?

Uro does not deal with the fiat currency financial system, therefore, there are no regulation requirements - the fiat exchanges take care of this problem for us

8. According the ‘interview’ posted today.  There’s no contract just a commitment, why no contract?

There is a contract that is part of the Uro Protocol, some of the signed Instruments of Ratification I have linked below, the rest you can read at uro.io:

http://128.199.204.45/Uro%20Protocol%20GES%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg
http://128.199.204.45/Uro%20Protocol%20Crown%20Team%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

9. Provide information as to how the company is established in Hong Kong besides some address that anyone could have picked out randomly.


You can check the company details with the Companies Registry in Hong Kong:

Green Earth Systems Limited
Registration Number: 1682761

10. If this is legitimate why are you and the people who support this resorting to silly tactics like using inappropriate language and posting comments that are implying racism. Members of the NIER seem to have immigrated to Australia. There’s no such thing as one race of people being scammers, it’s just the fact that scammers are in Australia and indeed in all parts of the world. It seems that GES doesn’t appreciate the fact that I’m sure Australia doesn’t want to be known as a country with people who are trying to scam people, especially those who are already impoverished like farmers.

I think its best to stop this side of the discussion - too much focus on this already - I will say that I am sorry for responding to what I felt was racism to towards Australians.

11. In ‘interview’ today http://pastebin.com/BdmrhxJs seems like a  lot of ‘hot’ air answers, not a lot of substance and seems like true-asset is trying to remove himself from any sort of responsibility if anything goes wrong especially in a legal sense. Also, doesn’t understand the fact that nations around the world, including Australia take scams seriously as it destroys too many people’s lives.

Are you referring to the "hot air" composed of links to signed legal paperwork with company seals?

In an earlier post it was claimed that Bohan Huang is the Director. According to this document posted on twitter, that is not so, but Nilesh Nair who resides at 15 Melville Street, West Ryde NSW 2114 Australia.  

Document 2 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Gdv6IgP5bhOUl6dE9VT0FrVnR3TnBuZEdUU2FCTy1lZ0FZ/edit?usp=sharing

How can the director live in Australia and have a main office in Hong Kong??  According to Google maps West Ryde is not far from Rydalmere. See below:
https://maps.google.com.au/maps?es_sm=93&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=au&daddr=Mary+Parade,+Rydalmere+NSW+2116&saddr=West+Ryde+NSW&panel=1&f=d&fb=1&geocode=KUfMGCdQpBJrMbDPMhZofQEF;KbUbGe1xoxJrMZ2A46JYpFUk&dirflg=d


The address listed for Hong Kong is just the registry address in Hong Kong to register the company. It’s the same address claimed to be where GES has a head office.

The people listed on website are not Directors, they are just people who may be called a director, but are not. They are either affilated with Nilesh Nair or as in Bohan Huang's case maybe an employee. As claimed earlier he is the director of IT. Who is Alex Li? Another director of IT??

True-asset you did not answer this question:

True-asset and others who are supporting this for true-asset  should provide their names.  Please provide us with your names.

Do you believe that the ACCC or other relevant authorites would not be interested in scams???

Do you believe that ASIC would post a document on their website that is false? If you claim that the company is not insolvent, why was the notice posted?

Impact Investigations and Security is separate from GES?? Then explain this picture. When you enlarge the letterhead it says, "Impact Investigations and Security trading as Greenearth Systems."

http://posharp.com/Businesses/1d8d1a49-e672-47af-af98-2b37ae489a3c/Company/company_letterhead.jpg

After all I’m an investor not somebody who is trying to encourage people to hand over money or buy into my product. If you are going to promote a product, you don’t ask consumers for their details if they ask questions. Directors of firms and those who are selling a product or idea need to be transparent. If there’s nothing to hide, then that shouldn’t be a problem.

The people listed on  the GES website are not Directors, they are just people who may be called a director, but are not. They are either affiliated with Nilesh Nair or as in Bohan Huang's case maybe an employee. As claimed earlier he is the director of IT. Who is Alex Lin? Another director??

Seals don’t actually mean much....anyone with a seal can stamp a document. But you have stated in your ‘interview’ that there’s no contract. What does the document really mean, just a certificate to say that you’ve set up some sort of Uro coin???  In reference to claiming companies diversify, they do but with proper offices and accountabilities in place.

[coinpirate]

Oh my God, can you stop with the colored texts please? It's so incredibly annoying!!

[scambust]

Another insolvency link
https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/132561132/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD

[CryptoSteam]

URO only has 300K coins mined so far and it's cheaper than DRK that already has more than 4 million mined.

[davisgreen]

Another insolvency link
https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/132561132/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD

its just another link picked up by another website from the original source!!!! u might find 100 more- so!!!

[CryptoSteam]

Another insolvency link
https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/132561132/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD

Are you blind or what? It has been repeated numerous times in this thread that it is not Green Earth Systems PTY LTD in Australia. It's the Hong Kong company that has ratified the URO protocol.

[wasobot]

Another insolvency link
https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/132561132/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD

Are you blind or what? It has been repeated numerous times in this thread that it is not Green Earth Systems PTY LTD in Australia. It's the Hong Kong company that has ratified the URO protocol.

he is desperate to buy back, just dont sell to his buys

[noucome008]

As you can see this two idiots truthful and scambust and others are only one person doing some microtrading to earn some money by spreading fud , just wait for july 9 and you will see what you believe , and GES Australia is not involve,

GES HongKong is the one involve in this ,

http://www.gescommodity.com/pages-L2/geshkong.html

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[bitbd83]

Dev please make this thread as moderated. FUDders are shitting everywhere.

[davisgreen]

Which company does Satoshi Nakamoto works for!
Can u please check if its insolvent ...might be a scam

[Truthful]

In reply to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.msg7699631#msg7699631

Mr. Bohan Huang,

1. I'm not a racist. The correct term to accuse me of such is to call me a chauvinist or an elitist. Australia does not have a homogeneous culture or race - just goes to show your level of intelligence or perhaps, you never have set foot in Australia. I also said "Australian scammers have the biggest balls" not Australians have the biggest balls. To all who replied before me regarding this, you all deserve to lose your money, go back to school to learn something.

2. Regarding the different Australian scams I was referring to, this is in reference to the whole altcoin industry. Scams are getting more elaborate and more frequent like two scams in a week. Altcoin investors are becoming known as an easy target to veteran scammers in other industries. Urocoin maybe the first of many. Scams with faces, real names, and legit-looking documents will become common place since such scams are common outside Crypto e.g. Rippln pyramid scheme. (Google it, you lazy idiots). Bohan, you really like to use misdirection in your replies. This is not a court of law.

This increasing frequency of scams will be the death knell of the whole altcoin industry. There will be lesser investments, investors will rather stick to btc. This is also a warning to Shittrex. Unless there's change, there will be a downtrend. That's why I'm posting many expose'.

3. Regarding the red flags https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.msg7691359#msg7691359 yes the companies have an online presence dating back to 2008 see https://web.archive.org/web/20081109034751/http://www.greenearthsystems.com.au/ and https://web.archive.org/web/20091024025014/http://www.greenearthsystems.com.au/profile.html but for five years, GES is more known as a CCTV seller rather than a commodity broker. People, you can verify by checking the site's history in the links mentioned. It is only last year or so, information about Green Earth Commodities came about. So, why in the hell there's this article dated 2003? http://greenearthsystems.com.au/green-earth-systems-joins-with-ltg-to-become-one-of-6-major-importers-of-commodity-libya/ THIS PAGE DID NOT EXIST LAST YEAR. The only evidence of international contacts is photos of Nilesh Nair with his Egyptian friends and funny thing is - in the photos, it seems that they are distributors of GES security cams. People, carefully check the photos, I'm telling you. THERE ARE NO SEPARATE COMPANIES, THEY ARE ALL GES.

Here's Stephen Lo's involvement:



Bohan: Green Earth Systems Limited is a Hong Kong company so all FUD about GES Australia is irrelevant by definition. - Yeah, right and Nilesh Nair, CEO of the whole group of companies will not be responsible for his insolvency in Australia. He signed the so-called URO Protocol. See below:



More pics here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.msg7691359#msg7691359

Bohan: Green Earth Systems Pty Ltd (Australia) has an active company registration according the the Australian government: http://www.abn.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=17132561132. In light of this I would like whoever claimed GES Australia is insolvent to publicly apologise on the forum for their false defamation.
Ask the Australian Securities and Investments Commission to apologize for listing this notice https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/GREEN-EARTH-SYSTEMS-PTY-LTD-132561132/e210ae84-3d23-4448-a2d0-6c2e218ee440

Hong Kong companies, Australian companies, Middle East companies - I can set up dozens of shell corporations if I wanted to. But the main guy is still Nilesh Nair whose Australian company is insolvent.

Am I reading this right? Truthful, scambust and co are honestly saying this is more likely to be a scam because Australians aren't to be trusted because of convicts in the 1700's? Is that seriously what this has degraded to?

Moron...no mention of such

I don't really get that line of argument at all. I'm also starting to question the motivations of some of those attacking UROcoin, now they have said their piece why are they so hell bent on attacking, what is it to them, if they don't like it why just not buy any?

I stated my reasons in number two.

Guys, bookmark this link once you lose your money so they can't leave the country if they make their millions off you.
https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/maintain/create/index.phtml?contentTypeName=scamwatchComplaint&informationSpaceItemId=tag.ScamwatchReportAScam&inPop=1&returnUrl=.&type=Other

Scambust, do you live in Australia?