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Author Topic: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin  (Read 509899 times)
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April 19, 2011, 06:25:07 AM
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Use bitcoin.
But who do you pay? There can't be a central authoity. If Namecoin is a separate block chain to Bitcoin, you can't transfer coins from Bitcoin to Namecoin without a third-party intermediary. As I said, this means we need to se up an entire market in Namecoin; it would have to become yet another currency, competing with Bitcoin.

If Namecoin was built on top of Bitcoin, with the same block chain (add a new Bitcoin transaction type), you could charge for domains, except you would be destroying coins in the process, which I don't think we want.
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April 19, 2011, 06:27:25 AM
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Use bitcoin.
But who do you pay? There can't be a central authoity. If Namecoin is a separate block chain to Bitcoin, you can't transfer coins from Bitcoin to Namecoin without a third-party intermediary. As I said, this means we need to se up an entire market in Namecoin; it would have to become yet another currency, competing with Bitcoin.

If Namecoin was built on top of Bitcoin, with the same block chain (add a new Bitcoin transaction type), you could charge for domains, except you would be destroying coins in the process, which I don't think we want.

Anyone could be godaddy or icann. Thats the point.

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April 19, 2011, 07:41:49 AM
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I don't see why "this means we need to se up an entire market in Namecoin; it would have to become yet another currency, competing with Bitcoin."

All you would have to do is pay the minner with bitcoins (if I understood it right)
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April 19, 2011, 03:06:06 PM
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I hooked up one of my mining machines this morning and I have 6 blocks generated so far.  I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them when they mature though.  Huh

@vinced  Do you want first pick on a name?  I'll transfer you the 50 namecoins if you give me your namecoin address.

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April 19, 2011, 03:10:18 PM
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Yes the basic idea is just to add the domain registration type with a fee so a miner can decide to include it or not. The only problem would be miners self registering a shitload of domains.
The other option is to give a fixed number of Domain Credits per block and then have those transferred to the buyers address and register a domain with them, which could be updated to another domain for a smaller fee than to get a new domain.

So, a miner could register a shitload of domains, or they would be limited and the prices would vary wildly.
What about x**(ground(#blocks/210000) + 1)*y + z? It would be an ever faster increasing number of domains which could keep up with demand while keeping the domain names limited.

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April 19, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
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Is there a way to transfer a name to another account besides letting it expire?

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April 19, 2011, 09:49:07 PM
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Has anyone actually made a client a non coder can run yet ?

Or is namecoin restricted to a select few who can compile their own software....
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April 19, 2011, 10:00:51 PM
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A GUI is on the development roadmap and I'm sure binaries will come available shortly.  What OS are you trying to run Namecoin on?  I have binaries for Ubuntu, 32 and 64 bit. BTW, Namecoin's build process is almost identical to Bitcoin so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Or at least, there is a lot of information on how to compile Bitcoin.

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April 20, 2011, 01:04:57 AM
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A GUI is on the development roadmap and I'm sure binaries will come available shortly.  What OS are you trying to run Namecoin on?  I have binaries for Ubuntu, 32 and 64 bit. BTW, Namecoin's build process is almost identical to Bitcoin so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Or at least, there is a lot of information on how to compile Bitcoin.

Ubuntu 64bit

I hope to register a domain I dont have to wade through a godaddy nightmare . Just give me a field for entering a name I want and an address to send coins to and let me know if its available.

btw I will pay 5btc if someone can hold onto witcoin.bit or .btc domain for me and transfer it whenever an easy way to do so appears. Thats roughly the cost of a normal domain.

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April 20, 2011, 01:09:12 AM
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Anybody registered a domain yet?

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April 20, 2011, 01:13:58 AM
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Anybody registered a domain yet?

I hope to buy one I just dont know wtf Im supposed to do to get it lol

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April 20, 2011, 04:06:51 AM
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It is way too early to have a system like this "go live".  There are a lot of parameters and balancing measures that are well worth working out--effective standards result from careful thought and consensus, rather than simple experimentation.  Run this one as a test system for a while, identify what works and what doesn't, and then we will be better positioned to implement a standard that can achieve wide adoption.

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April 20, 2011, 04:31:04 AM
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A GUI is on the development roadmap and I'm sure binaries will come available shortly.  What OS are you trying to run Namecoin on?  I have binaries for Ubuntu, 32 and 64 bit. BTW, Namecoin's build process is almost identical to Bitcoin so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Or at least, there is a lot of information on how to compile Bitcoin.

Ubuntu 64bit

I hope to register a domain I dont have to wade through a godaddy nightmare . Just give me a field for entering a name I want and an address to send coins to and let me know if its available.

btw I will pay 5btc if someone can hold onto witcoin.bit or .btc domain for me and transfer it whenever an easy way to do so appears. Thats roughly the cost of a normal domain.


Ubuntu 32 binary - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2882613/namecoin.tar.gz
Ubuntu 64 binary - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2882613/namecoin-64.tar.gz

I'll reserve Witcoin for you for 5btc.  Once you get namecoin setup you should be able to name_scan and see that I have the name reserved.  Although, I think I have to wait another 80 blocks in order to create my first name.  Namecoin is currently on block 40 and I have to wait until block 120 for the coins to mature.

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April 20, 2011, 06:13:31 AM
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Can you post Windows binaries? I compiled, but somehow I ended up with the standard Bitcoin client.
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April 20, 2011, 07:29:29 AM
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How many connections do you guys have? I forwarded port 8334 but there are still only 2 connections.

By the way, they run parallel with bitcoin client without issue here. That is if you disable RPC server of bitcoin. Otherwise you get an "Address already in use" exception.

I haven't solved a block yet but I get plenty of these: Grin

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April 20, 2011, 08:51:55 AM
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A GUI is on the development roadmap and I'm sure binaries will come available shortly.  What OS are you trying to run Namecoin on?  I have binaries for Ubuntu, 32 and 64 bit. BTW, Namecoin's build process is almost identical to Bitcoin so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Or at least, there is a lot of information on how to compile Bitcoin.

Ubuntu 64bit

I hope to register a domain I dont have to wade through a godaddy nightmare . Just give me a field for entering a name I want and an address to send coins to and let me know if its available.

btw I will pay 5btc if someone can hold onto witcoin.bit or .btc domain for me and transfer it whenever an easy way to do so appears. Thats roughly the cost of a normal domain.


Ubuntu 32 binary - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2882613/namecoin.tar.gz
Ubuntu 64 binary - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2882613/namecoin-64.tar.gz

I'll reserve Witcoin for you for 5btc.  Once you get namecoin setup you should be able to name_scan and see that I have the name reserved.  Although, I think I have to wait another 80 blocks in order to create my first name.  Namecoin is currently on block 40 and I have to wait until block 120 for the coins to mature.


I'm curious as what you did to compile namecoind.

Can you post Windows binaries? I compiled, but somehow I ended up with the standard Bitcoin client.
Same thing happened to me on ubuntu.

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April 20, 2011, 10:22:32 AM
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I compiled namecoind on linux  by just running 'make'. Not 'make -f makefile.unix' as you'd do to build 'bitcoind'. I also added 'rpcport=...' in the '~/.namecoin/bitcoin.conf' file to set an RPC port that doesn't clash with bitcoind that I have running. Note that the configuration file is still called 'bitcoin.conf' but it lives in '~/.namecoin'.
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April 20, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
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I also added 'rpcport=...' in the '~/.namecoin/bitcoin.conf' file to set an RPC port that doesn't clash with bitcoind that I have running.
Haha, totally forgot about that even though I've been happily mining through the same old rpc port. Silly me. Anyway, solved my first block, yay! Connections = 8.

On Gentoo, I only had to change the Makefile to link with the dynamic boost libs. Other than that, it worked out of the box.  Grin
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April 20, 2011, 12:36:16 PM
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Got it running.  Grin

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April 20, 2011, 01:36:29 PM
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Anybody registered a domain yet?
At least here, nameindex.dat seems empty and name_scan returns [].

I keep generating blocks and the wallet is getting bigger (in bytes) but the balance is stuck at 0. I couldn't find anything in the design doc about this either. Shouldn't the balance go up?
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