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June 04, 2014, 11:35:42 AM
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I might get around building something like onename.io as opensource, because I need a blockchain based auth system for people to use. Systems like these could really push namecoin's use. Onename.io claiming that they are "decentral" while doing this as closed source is kinda pointless. But the webinterface I think shows how the future might look like. Building the Twitter/Github/.. API's takes time though. But in these case reliance on a Trusted third party is okay. For ".bit" it's not, because the request takes place continuously.

To get around the squatting, one will need a good auction system, which is hard to do. Actually for the Internet this is broken, too. Transfering from one registrar to another is often impossible, and all these registrars do is take a lot of money for administering a database entry (+censorship for free!). There is a protocol (RFC3731) which in theory handles domain transfers, but nobody implements it. Actually even the guys who've written the protocol don't implement it. If anyone is interested in all of this please let me know.

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June 05, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
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The squatting isn't as bad as its made out to be, at least for some of the earlier name holders. Many where reserved early to prevent squatters and I've heard of a fair number of those being transferred for free (bitcoin related company names mostly). I picked one applicable to me at a very reasonable price and could easily have haggled lower, a namecoin developer was holding it so it was going towards namecoin development.

I fully agree here.  While I'm not one of the "early squatters", I hold some names and will gladly give them for free (together with free help in configuration) to anyone who wants to set up a real website in earnest.  I've already seen "statistics" like "oh look, what a mess, 99% of .bit domains are only squatted and not resolving to a website!" a lot, and think that this is mostly due not to squatting being such a bad problem, but because there simply isn't yet enough demand to build .bit websites.  I'm sure that, when .bit gets more popular and more people can actually resolve it, this fraction will improve by a lot.

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June 06, 2014, 10:02:38 AM
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many thanks for this work. I will have to look into this further. Combining namecoin with OAuth is really what I need. I think part of the issue is the work required by users to a) acquire namecoins b) running namecoind. I'm working on a) and hope to make this much easier soon. If the whole process would be seamless more people might be interested. I think currently the ID part is much more useful than the domain part.

Is there some code for an explorer, like http://explorer.namecoin.info/ somewhere? I currently don't have the time to write such a webinterface, but pulling together stuff from Bitcoin should be sufficient. It would be nice to be able to explorer the blockchain after registration, see when names were registered, etc.
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June 06, 2014, 10:08:06 AM
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I fully agree here.  While I'm not one of the "early squatters", I hold some names and will gladly give them for free (together with free help in configuration) to anyone who wants to set up a real website in earnest.  I've already seen "statistics" like "oh look, what a mess, 99% of .bit domains are only squatted and not resolving to a website!" a lot, and think that this is mostly due not to squatting being such a bad problem, but because there simply isn't yet enough demand to build .bit websites.  I'm sure that, when .bit gets more popular and more people can actually resolve it, this fraction will improve by a lot.

Just doing ".bit" like a ".com" is by itself not interesting. The ability to change DNS by consensus is extremely powerful in different ways than that. So the incentive to build a "bit" website is very small indeed. You have to get all users to install new software, for very little benefit. Which is why NMC hasn't taken off. It's rather the potential that is fascinating. Once there are incentives to switch to alternatives, the dynamic changes.

Squatting is an issue because we are mapping names from the real world (trademark names such as "Google", "Coke", ...) to a virtual world. So the first come first serve principle is not very good. One needs more sophisticated rules than that.
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June 16, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
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While `namecoind getinfo` and `namecoind getdifficulty` display the current difficulty, `namecoind getblock <block_hash>` does not return difficulty info for an arbitrary block in the past.

Is it possible to do this?  I've rolled some code that works across dozens of other coin daemons but it breaks with namecoin because of this missing historical difficulty field.  I've patched together some workarounds for other issues but this one is a significant obstacle to the inclusion of namecoin in various multi-coin projects.

Any help would be much appreciated -- cheers.
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June 17, 2014, 05:33:38 AM
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While `namecoind getinfo` and `namecoind getdifficulty` display the current difficulty, `namecoind getblock <block_hash>` does not return difficulty info for an arbitrary block in the past.

Is it possible to do this?  I've rolled some code that works across dozens of other coin daemons but it breaks with namecoin because of this missing historical difficulty field.  I've patched together some workarounds for other issues but this one is a significant obstacle to the inclusion of namecoin in various multi-coin projects.

Any help would be much appreciated -- cheers.
(if a diff patch would require significant time/effort please feel free to pm me to work out a bounty)

https://github.com/namecoin/namecoin/issues/112  Will probably be fixed soon.

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June 17, 2014, 06:47:12 AM
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Namecoin is NMC?
I am a little confused.

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June 17, 2014, 07:43:51 AM
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Namecoin is NMC?
I am a little confused.

Yes why

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June 17, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
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While `namecoind getinfo` and `namecoind getdifficulty` display the current difficulty, `namecoind getblock <block_hash>` does not return difficulty info for an arbitrary block in the past.

Is it possible to do this?  I've rolled some code that works across dozens of other coin daemons but it breaks with namecoin because of this missing historical difficulty field.  I've patched together some workarounds for other issues but this one is a significant obstacle to the inclusion of namecoin in various multi-coin projects.

Any help would be much appreciated -- cheers.
(if a diff patch would require significant time/effort please feel free to pm me to work out a bounty)

https://github.com/namecoin/namecoin/issues/112  Will probably be fixed soon.

Thank you Domob!

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June 18, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
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v0.3.75 ->>> http://forum.namecoin.info/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1865&p=11640#p11640

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June 20, 2014, 09:15:44 AM
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June 23, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
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I just read that namecoin does not and will never do name-validation [1]. interesting...

[1] https://forum.namecoin.info/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1719
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June 23, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
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many of my names seem to have disappeared after the last update

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June 24, 2014, 06:12:03 AM
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many of my names seem to have disappeared after the last update
Looks a bit like you did some experiments with directory names and then mixed up older and newer versions of your wallet.dat backups. What does the "validateaddress" command give you on the addresses of these names? "ismine"=true?
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June 24, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
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many of my names seem to have disappeared after the last update
Looks a bit like you did some experiments with directory names and then mixed up older and newer versions of your wallet.dat backups. What does the "validateaddress" command give you on the addresses of these names? "ismine"=true?

i dont think so

yes it says true

if i delete the database, they appear but disappear at or close to synced

out of many, only 1 shows, i dont think they expired as 1 is still good, the other may have no data tho, are those filtered?

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June 24, 2014, 12:54:42 PM
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many of my names seem to have disappeared after the last update
Looks a bit like you did some experiments with directory names and then mixed up older and newer versions of your wallet.dat backups. What does the "validateaddress" command give you on the addresses of these names? "ismine"=true?

i dont think so

yes it says true

if i delete the database, they appear but disappear at or close to synced

out of many, only 1 shows, i dont think they expired as 1 is still good, the other may have no data tho, are those filtered?
did you try to start with -rescan, like
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namecoin-qt -rescan

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June 24, 2014, 01:27:23 PM
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How long a name will stay until it expires?

One of my names does not resolve any more, but when  I tried to re-extablish it with historical commands those commands failed

name_update: error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid namecoin address"}

name_firstupdate: error: {"code":-1,"message":"this name is already active"}

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June 24, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
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many of my names seem to have disappeared after the last update
Looks a bit like you did some experiments with directory names and then mixed up older and newer versions of your wallet.dat backups. What does the "validateaddress" command give you on the addresses of these names? "ismine"=true?

i dont think so

yes it says true

if i delete the database, they appear but disappear at or close to synced

out of many, only 1 shows, i dont think they expired as 1 is still good, the other may have no data tho, are those filtered?
did you try to start with -rescan, like
Code:
namecoin-qt -rescan

still gone ive also tried deleting everything but the wallet

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June 24, 2014, 04:37:01 PM
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How long a name will stay until it expires?
36000 Blocks. This currently equals to around 200 days.

name_update: error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid namecoin address"}
This shows that you made a syntax error. The error message "Invalid namecoin address" is displayed only when you transfer a name to somebody else. This is not what you want.

Check the value field of your name_update command. I think there is a space or a special character in your value field.
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June 24, 2014, 05:15:18 PM
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How long a name will stay until it expires?
36000 Blocks. This currently equals to around 200 days.


200 days? my god, i'm sure many people are going to lose their domain names or IDs very soon,
it should be a year or more than a year and stop resolving after a year.

I bet some people would like to be able to pay for longer registration periods,
even if it's more expensive than just renewing every year,
just to have the security to not run into trouble.

what's the official fee plan? 0.01 forever and for TX follow bitcoin fees?

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