[announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin

[passivist]

Freiexchange and SouthExchange are good exchanges too.

There is no need for volume, highest volume is fake volume often. My quality measurement for exchanges is a low spread (the diff between highest bid and lowest ask).

If you need to buy (sell) on an low volume exchange, set a limit buy order (sell order) near the fair market price, and be patient for the execution.

I have trust into namecoin, so I have them, no more demand here.

[BayAreaCoins]

High volume crypto exchanges and crypto coins are almost always scams... do NOT chase volume when looking for a market in this game!

FreeBitcoins.com exchange lets you get free Bitcoin to buy Namecoin and there are no withdrawal requirements.

The withdraw fee is 0.05 NMC atm, which is dust.

Withdrawals are basically processed instantly as well and your welcome to test that without actually making a deposit.

I've used Frei before, but in my bias opinion... FreeBitcoins is a much better website + much more attentive, known, and active staff.

[nutildah]

I did something similar to test them. They seem alright. Now I keep a good chunk of my NMC there for trading the swings and accumulating more. I also use their charts for most of my analysis for trading other coins.

OK then I won't convert to something withdrawable in panic, especially now that we're at a nice little loss. I just wanted to have 100 NMC. But then the wallet broke before I could get all of them.

If anybody wants to do a trade, 100 NMC for +5% market rate, payable in BTC or DOGE. Please feel free to PM me. I'll probably insist that you send first. Thanks.

[passivist]

I did something similar to test them. They seem alright. Now I keep a good chunk of my NMC there for trading the swings and accumulating more. I also use their charts for most of my analysis for trading other coins.

OK then I won't convert to something withdrawable in panic, especially now that we're at a nice little loss. I just wanted to have 100 NMC. But then the wallet broke before I could get all of them.

If anybody wants to do a trade, 100 NMC for +5% market rate, payable in BTC or DOGE. Please feel free to PM me. I'll probably insist that you send first. Thanks.

If coinex do not reopen namecoin withdraw in a reasonable time, you will get the 100 namecoin from me (or an equivalent of it in another coin). Until they reopen withdraws you should not buy more namecoin there, do it elsewhere.

[UsernameNumber7]

I guess as long as NMC is irrelevant for creating Exchanges and Forums, everyone will be subjected to CoinEx and other Chi-Com offshore "Exchanges"


Tor Browser is talking more about Blockchains, but the technical requirements to stay safe online grows everyday, it does not diminish!

[ToxicDartFrog]

Has anyone managed to talk to the dev team? They clearly still post updates and latest release was just a couple months ago but outside of what they post on the site sometimes they seem rather quiet about the project.

Would be nice if they could address why NMC is not being carried on any major exchanges. If we can get it listed on one of the non-chicom trading sites I suspect we'd witness a major spike in market cap. Maybe they don't want this yet but the project's over 10 years old no?

[BayAreaCoins]

Has anyone managed to talk to the dev team? They clearly still post updates and latest release was just a couple months ago but outside of what they post on the site sometimes they seem rather quiet about the project.

Would be nice if they could address why NMC is not being carried on any major exchanges. If we can get it listed on one of the non-chicom trading sites I suspect we'd witness a major spike in market cap. Maybe they don't want this yet but the project's over 10 years old no?

Lots of "major exchanges" are fraudsters.

They fake volume and want huge listing fees.

Coins are better off building themselves and getting naturally added to exchanges that aren't scum bags.  Look how long it took Binance to list Dogecoin.... lol puke. 

I don't think Dogecoin needed Binance either.  Exchanges are a nice lazy way to trade with people all over the world, but they really aren't "needed".

That being said, please come checkout my Namecoin exchange.  Our deposits count confirmations correctly and the withdrawals are all pretty much instantly processed on the blockchain.

Our liquidity is low right now, but that is just because we need users willing to say "I want to buy Namecoin at X price" or "I want to sell Namecoin at X price".  Having an exchange with liquidity is a wonderful way to sell a coin to other exchanges as well!

https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Namecoin

[wiggi]

https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Namecoin

The exchange could provide liquidity and make this trading pair more attractive, either with an automated system or manually (let someone trade market maker style with the exchange's money). Otherwise it will be stuck with the chicken and egg problem of no liquidity, no traders, no liquidity.

[BayAreaCoins]

https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Namecoin

The exchange could provide liquidity and make this trading pair more attractive, either with an automated system or manually (let someone trade market maker style with the exchange's money). Otherwise it will be stuck with the chicken and egg problem of no liquidity, no traders, no liquidity.

We have chickens and eggs by having a website that works IMO.  What we need is more people willing to sell Namecoin for any price and see if we can connect them to a buyer.

Offer the Namecoin for sale on our exchange using a limit order for 5-10% more than any other exchange out there... see what happens!  If you get sick of waiting, withdrawal your coins.  (The exchange earns a little off each withdrawal normally, so we like to see you take your coins back.)  We also have an API, so you could set your %'s against other exchanges too!

The website works really well.  Deposits count confirmations correctly and withdrawals are basically instant.  I think having a website that actually works well is the best marketing a Cryptocurrency exchange can do.

[UsernameNumber7]

https://github.com/open-quantum-safe


As far as I understand Post-Quantum Encryption could be included into Namecoin .bit websites..............however it requires the User And the Website to both have the capability.......of which all web browsers do not include any PQ-Encryption


This would be a good idea to implement and would be the fast track to securing the internet! 


It's simple and easy for a website to generate a PQ-Encryption SSL certificate using Namecoin right now as the resolver however we need to get a Tor Browser Module that communicates with the Website PQ-Encryption........most all the work is done already except the Tor browser module..............

[biolizard89]

Has anyone managed to talk to the dev team? They clearly still post updates and latest release was just a couple months ago but outside of what they post on the site sometimes they seem rather quiet about the project.

Several of our developers (myself included) are easy to talk to on IRC ( https://www.namecoin.org/resources/chat/ ).  Not really sure how or when you were trying to contact us, but you posted that right around the time that I was on partial sick leave, so maybe that was a factor.  I definitely try to be approachable (and I don't think I do *too* bad a job at this), but at the same time, if I were spending all my time answering questions on all platforms where people could conceivably try to talk to me, I wouldn't have any time left to write code.  IRC is pretty low-friction and has a decent SNR, so it's probably the best place to ask questions if you want a quick answer from me.

Would be nice if they could address why NMC is not being carried on any major exchanges. If we can get it listed on one of the non-chicom trading sites I suspect we'd witness a major spike in market cap. Maybe they don't want this yet but the project's over 10 years old no?

I'm going to have to agree with BayAreaCoins on this: I'd rather spend my time making Namecoin itself bigger, so that exchanges want to add Namecoin of their own accord.

Meanwhile, we released Electrum-NMC v4.0.0b0: https://www.namecoin.org/2021/12/17/electrum-nmc-v4.0.0b0-released.html

And in particular, this release contains a nice new security enhancement by Yanmaani, which he also upstreamed to Electrum: https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/07/unix-domain-sockets-in-electrum.html

[UsernameNumber7]

The most important thing for Namecoin is Tor Browser integration to simplify it's use for users........How is that progressing?  Have the Tor people moved on or are they still interested? 

Brave Browser might add resolver has there been any discussion with Brave Browser?


Considering one of founders of Mozilla just flipped out over them accepting Bitcoin donations making firefox stop accepting them will it affect Tor Firefox relationship from integrating Namecoin?

I think that must be his angle he would bust a nut in a fat heifer if Namecoin got integrated into Firefox lol........



https://gadgetfee.com/dogecoin-co-founder-blasts-mozilla-for-pausing-crypto-donations/


https://www.engadget.com/mozilla-stops-accepting-crypto-donations-following-outrage-over-climate-impact-131619769.html


And the most important thing for Bitcoin is Merge Mining a Real World Utility


I am not gonna lie, It helped me greatly by them suppressing Namecoin so that I bought a boat of it with other Crypto Profits Early 2021............Namecoin is a gem amid a Sea of Shitcoins!


"Aye Captain Satoshi, a Sea of Shitcoins from Sea to Shiny Sea, Shitcoins everywhere"

[biolizard89]

The most important thing for Namecoin is Tor Browser integration to simplify it's use for users........How is that progressing?  Have the Tor people moved on or are they still interested? 

Brave Browser might add resolver has there been any discussion with Brave Browser?

The Namecoin integration in Tor Browser Nightly wasn't talked about publicly until it was merged and the Tor Browser Team gave me a green light to give a surprise talk at 36C3 about it.  The next similar announcement will probably follow a similar PR path.  I don't really like being unable to talk about in-progress work, but unfortunately that's how this kind of stuff works.  Work is happening here though.

Considering one of founders of Mozilla just flipped out over them accepting Bitcoin donations making firefox stop accepting them will it affect Tor Firefox relationship from integrating Namecoin?

I think that must be his angle he would bust a nut in a fat heifer if Namecoin got integrated into Firefox lol........



https://gadgetfee.com/dogecoin-co-founder-blasts-mozilla-for-pausing-crypto-donations/


https://www.engadget.com/mozilla-stops-accepting-crypto-donations-following-outrage-over-climate-impact-131619769.html

Thanks for surfacing that; I wasn't aware of this particular drama.  I think it's unlikely to impact us, but hard to know.  Definitely useful to be aware of it.  FWIW the Namecoin.org FAQ has a section on global heating.

[realdantreccia]

Has anyone managed to talk to the dev team? They clearly still post updates and latest release was just a couple months ago but outside of what they post on the site sometimes they seem rather quiet about the project.

Several of our developers (myself included) are easy to talk to on IRC ( https://www.namecoin.org/resources/chat/ ).  Not really sure how or when you were trying to contact us, but you posted that right around the time that I was on partial sick leave, so maybe that was a factor.  I definitely try to be approachable (and I don't think I do *too* bad a job at this), but at the same time, if I were spending all my time answering questions on all platforms where people could conceivably try to talk to me, I wouldn't have any time left to write code.  IRC is pretty low-friction and has a decent SNR, so it's probably the best place to ask questions if you want a quick answer from me.

Would be nice if they could address why NMC is not being carried on any major exchanges. If we can get it listed on one of the non-chicom trading sites I suspect we'd witness a major spike in market cap. Maybe they don't want this yet but the project's over 10 years old no?

I'm going to have to agree with BayAreaCoins on this: I'd rather spend my time making Namecoin itself bigger, so that exchanges want to add Namecoin of their own accord.

Meanwhile, we released Electrum-NMC v4.0.0b0: https://www.namecoin.org/2021/12/17/electrum-nmc-v4.0.0b0-released.html

And in particular, this release contains a nice new security enhancement by Yanmaani, which he also upstreamed to Electrum: https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/07/unix-domain-sockets-in-electrum.html

To me namecoin is better than what people value on web-based exchanges. It's making the entire backbone and structure for the decentralized internet we all want, even if we don't know it. I'm woke. I've seen it in action and I see your plans because my interests aligned with your project before I even knew about it. I've spent my time assisting in Devcoin, but lately I am acquiring as many NMC as I can afford and running a node bc I believe in supporting your fellow Merge Mined OG networks. And btw I value NMC > BTC anyday. What people value in the current day is what they're told bc this web 2.0 media state of affairs and society as a whole having the wool over their eyes - because of the propaganda in the palm of their hands 24 hours a day makes them miss out on what they need. They don't critically think or make their own decisions on what they NEED. They do as they are told, they think they need what they are influenced to believe they need.. but I was lucky to wake up from that world. This is the infrastructure of a new dawn. And I wanted to thank you personally. BTW I just registered on the phpBB - haven't seen one of those since I was looking at web archives of the pre-Bitcoin exchange use of MtGox lol. Ironically, Mark Karpeles is in love with php too. And Mark Zuckerberg was once as well. I love forums... the Web 1.0-2.0 transition I spent childhood days posting on Showdowncards dot com for the MLB trading card game made by the same Wizards of the Coast that made MTG cards - Funny sometimes it feels like I'm in a loop. God speed to Namecoin. Long live FOSS and decentralized P2P mesh networks and liberating protocols from the man.

[biolizard89]

https://github.com/open-quantum-safe


As far as I understand Post-Quantum Encryption could be included into Namecoin .bit websites..............however it requires the User And the Website to both have the capability.......of which all web browsers do not include any PQ-Encryption


This would be a good idea to implement and would be the fast track to securing the internet! 


It's simple and easy for a website to generate a PQ-Encryption SSL certificate using Namecoin right now as the resolver however we need to get a Tor Browser Module that communicates with the Website PQ-Encryption........most all the work is done already except the Tor browser module..............

The most important PQ crypto for TLS is key exchange, i.e. a replacement for ECDHE -- *not* signatures (i.e. a replacement for ECDSA).  PQ key exchange doesn't need anything to be changed in the certificate, so you can create a standard Namecoin TLS certificate today with the default settings, and it will work with whatever PQ key exchange the TLS client/server support.  PQ signatures are going to be trickier, because while you could in principle create Namecoin records that support them, most PQ signature schemes involve public keys that are quite large, and Namecoin does not support hashing the public keys (because doing this would break a lot of TLS software).  Also there's not much point to doing PQ TLS signatures with Namecoin since they're authenticated with a non-PQ blockchain signature.

Speaking of signatures in TLS, p11mod now supports signatures.  https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/27/p11mod-signatures.html

[hornetsnest]

The most important PQ crypto for TLS is key exchange, i.e. a replacement for ECDHE -- *not* signatures (i.e. a replacement for ECDSA).  PQ key exchange doesn't need anything to be changed in the certificate, so you can create a standard Namecoin TLS certificate today with the default settings, and it will work with whatever PQ key exchange the TLS client/server support.  PQ signatures are going to be trickier, because while you could in principle create Namecoin records that support them, most PQ signature schemes involve public keys that are quite large, and Namecoin does not support hashing the public keys (because doing this would break a lot of TLS software).  Also there's not much point to doing PQ TLS signatures with Namecoin since they're authenticated with a non-PQ blockchain signature.

Speaking of signatures in TLS, p11mod now supports signatures.  https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/27/p11mod-signatures.html

Biolizard will have to break this one down barney style for 99% of the readers who only want to know "wen moon?"

[UsernameNumber7]

https://github.com/open-quantum-safe/boringssl


Yes, Quantum Key Exchange Algo's I understand this is what I was meaning and the only real transport encryption is Cha-Cha20 ATM which is already in browsers..............however websites linked with Cloud like to disable even that encryption standard so assuming anyone in the world who could possibly increase encryption and resources is not likely to advance it...........The world is still fighting the same fight Edward Snowden revealed.................the desire to weaken or backdoor all encryption standards.............

Quantum key TLS size would not be much bigger than traditional cryptography after compression..............


The Namecoin not being Quantum does not matter as it's only resolving the name...........not the data.........and Tor isn't likely to adopt Quantum Encryption anytime soon either but getting .bit readable websites like .onion away from Censorship is more important than PQ Encryption........for now...............

I view this as a long term strategy to force the issue of how the Quantum Computers can break things, which would force Bitcoin/Namecoin to adopt new Hardware/Algos...............As if websites .bit were using PQ-E they would attack Namecoin instead..........but if .bit websites take lazy approach they will just get attacked and people will think it's Op-Sec doing it........instead of Quantum Computers breaking it ect..........


Key Exchange:

The following quantum-safe algorithms from liboqs are supported (assuming they have been enabled in liboqs):

    
BIKE: bikel1, bikel3
    
CRYSTALS-Kyber: kyber512, kyber768, kyber1024, kyber90s512, kyber90s768, kyber90s1024
    
FrodoKEM: frodo640shake, frodo976aes, frodo976shake, frodo1344aes, frodo1344shake
    
HQC: hqc128, hqc192, hqc256†
    
NTRU: ntru_hps2048509, ntru_hps2048677, ntru_hps4096821, ntru_hps40961229, ntru_hrss701, ntru_hrss1373
    
NTRU-Prime: ntrulpr653, ntrulpr761, ntrulpr857, ntrulpr1277, sntrup653, sntrup761, sntrup857, sntrup1277
    
SABER: lightsaber, saber, firesaber
    
SIDH: sidhp434, sidhp503, sidhp610, sidhp751
    
SIKE: sikep434, sikep503, sikep610, sikep751


Open Quantum Safe Github is very interesting anyway................

[biolizard89]

The most important PQ crypto for TLS is key exchange, i.e. a replacement for ECDHE -- *not* signatures (i.e. a replacement for ECDSA).  PQ key exchange doesn't need anything to be changed in the certificate, so you can create a standard Namecoin TLS certificate today with the default settings, and it will work with whatever PQ key exchange the TLS client/server support.  PQ signatures are going to be trickier, because while you could in principle create Namecoin records that support them, most PQ signature schemes involve public keys that are quite large, and Namecoin does not support hashing the public keys (because doing this would break a lot of TLS software).  Also there's not much point to doing PQ TLS signatures with Namecoin since they're authenticated with a non-PQ blockchain signature.

Speaking of signatures in TLS, p11mod now supports signatures.  https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/27/p11mod-signatures.html

Biolizard will have to break this one down barney style for 99% of the readers who only want to know "wen moon?"

Is that a comment about the accessibility of the PQ discussion, or my p11mod article?

Meanwhile, I significantly improved the Golang DNS seeder, which should fix the long-standing issues with Namecoin Core failing to find peers.  https://www.namecoin.org/2022/01/29/go-dns-seeder-improvements.html

[Gash]

The most important thing for Namecoin is Tor Browser integration to simplify it's use for users........How is that progressing?  Have the Tor people moved on or are they still interested?  

Brave Browser might add resolver has there been any discussion with Brave Browser?

The Namecoin integration in Tor Browser Nightly wasn't talked about publicly until it was merged and the Tor Browser Team gave me a green light to give a surprise talk at 36C3 about it.  The next similar announcement will probably follow a similar PR path.  I don't really like being unable to talk about in-progress work, but unfortunately that's how this kind of stuff works.  Work is happening here though.

Considering one of founders of Mozilla just flipped out over them accepting Bitcoin donations making firefox stop accepting them will it affect Tor Firefox relationship from integrating Namecoin?

I think that must be his angle he would bust a nut in a fat heifer if Namecoin got integrated into Firefox lol........



https://gadgetfee.com/dogecoin-co-founder-blasts-mozilla-for-pausing-crypto-donations/


https://www.engadget.com/mozilla-stops-accepting-crypto-donations-following-outrage-over-climate-impact-131619769.html

Thanks for surfacing that; I wasn't aware of this particular drama.  I think it's unlikely to impact us, but hard to know.  Definitely useful to be aware of it.  FWIW the Namecoin.org FAQ has a section on global heating.

Tor just issued a statement they will scrap the partnership. No reason to integrate a random old coin in their systems. You guys have a stain of hauteur on u. U make things up trying to insinuate that the coin u have been bagholding for 5 years, is worth a dime. U have become too gross in thinking that someone else cares about ur unicorn bags.

[biolizard89]

The most important thing for Namecoin is Tor Browser integration to simplify it's use for users........How is that progressing?  Have the Tor people moved on or are they still interested?  

Brave Browser might add resolver has there been any discussion with Brave Browser?

The Namecoin integration in Tor Browser Nightly wasn't talked about publicly until it was merged and the Tor Browser Team gave me a green light to give a surprise talk at 36C3 about it.  The next similar announcement will probably follow a similar PR path.  I don't really like being unable to talk about in-progress work, but unfortunately that's how this kind of stuff works.  Work is happening here though.

Considering one of founders of Mozilla just flipped out over them accepting Bitcoin donations making firefox stop accepting them will it affect Tor Firefox relationship from integrating Namecoin?

I think that must be his angle he would bust a nut in a fat heifer if Namecoin got integrated into Firefox lol........



https://gadgetfee.com/dogecoin-co-founder-blasts-mozilla-for-pausing-crypto-donations/


https://www.engadget.com/mozilla-stops-accepting-crypto-donations-following-outrage-over-climate-impact-131619769.html

Thanks for surfacing that; I wasn't aware of this particular drama.  I think it's unlikely to impact us, but hard to know.  Definitely useful to be aware of it.  FWIW the Namecoin.org FAQ has a section on global heating.

Tor just issued a statement they will scrap the partnership. No reason to integrate a random old coin in their systems. You guys have a stain of hauteur on u. U make things up trying to insinuate that the coin u have been bagholding for 5 years, is worth a dime. U have become too gross in thinking that someone else cares about ur unicorn bags.

Citation needed on all of these factual claims please.