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June 02, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
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I'll just leave this right here.

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June 02, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
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We found a new payout bug so payouts will be disabled until we fix it. As a reminder, the pool is still in alpha. What this means is that you will be paid eventually, but we can't guarantee timely payouts. Sorry. Thanks for helping us test the server.

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June 02, 2014, 01:44:43 PM
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We found a new payout bug so payouts will be disabled until we fix it. As a reminder, the pool is still in alpha. What this means is that you will be paid eventually, but we can't guarantee timely payouts. Sorry. Thanks for helping us test the server.

As long as we get it at some point, it's cool.

                                 
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June 02, 2014, 02:28:52 PM
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We found a new payout bug so payouts will be disabled until we fix it. As a reminder, the pool is still in alpha. What this means is that you will be paid eventually, but we can't guarantee timely payouts. Sorry. Thanks for helping us test the server.

As long as we get it at some point, it's cool.

I would say also that our system uses PPLNS so if you mine something and we don't hit a block for days for some reason, it's possible you won't get a representative share. With the current hashrate on the pool I don't think this will be a problem though.

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June 02, 2014, 03:14:14 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

 
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June 02, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Multipool is in testing currently.


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June 02, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
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I know that it's in testing but why does it even exsist? I thought the point of PoS was to STOP mining therefore wouldn't that make this a PoW/PoS hybrid?

 
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June 02, 2014, 03:50:57 PM
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I know that it's in testing but why does it even exsist? I thought the point of PoS was to STOP mining therefore wouldn't that make this a PoW/PoS hybrid?

A multipool, uses people hash to mine other coins, in turn these coins are sold on the market and the BTC gathered is used to purchase VRC, the VRC is then distributed between the miners on the multipool Smiley

helps maintain the price on exchanges somewhat, and also keeps trade ticking over Smiley

It's pretty cool

correct me if my statement is wrong guys Smiley

                                 
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

PoW is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. PoS or Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 
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June 02, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POS is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 

perfect
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June 02, 2014, 05:42:26 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POS is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 

perfect

well done +1
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June 02, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POS is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 

Nice explanation Kevondo!  Thanks!
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June 02, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POS is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 

perfect

Only inaccuracy I see is that they can simply ask other devs for help (who throw up multipools every week) and be done in a snap.  Still, they are working hard and that is much appreciated Smiley Nice summary, also!

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June 02, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
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yes thanks for clarifying how the pool worked, Dev Team can I request that after its done and stable you guys open another multipool that does the same thing except with BTC, thats my biggest problem is the disconnect between mining and exchange by the time I mine enough for the min withdrawl limit, find the most profitable exchange, create an account on said exchange (if I dont already have one), wait for it to show up in my exchange, and then sell, the price has normally already gone down from when it was most profitable therefore.....this same option on a regular multipool would be amazing

 
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June 02, 2014, 09:41:26 PM
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yes thanks for clarifying how the pool worked, Dev Team can I request that after its done and stable you guys open another multipool that does the same thing except with BTC, thats my biggest problem is the disconnect between mining and exchange by the time I mine enough for the min withdrawl limit, find the most profitable exchange, create an account on said exchange (if I dont already have one), wait for it to show up in my exchange, and then sell, the price has normally already gone down from when it was most profitable therefore.....this same option on a regular multipool would be amazing

I think we have some other priorities to focus on before we start a BTC multipool. We have some ideas about anon, need to implement more of the optimized buying algorithm, and have some point-of-sale/storefront ideas we're also working on. Hopefully some others start developing stuff for VeriCoin but if not, we will be able to slowly but surely grow the VRC economy into one that rivals BitCoin.

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June 02, 2014, 09:50:22 PM
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yes thanks for clarifying how the pool worked, Dev Team can I request that after its done and stable you guys open another multipool that does the same thing except with BTC, thats my biggest problem is the disconnect between mining and exchange by the time I mine enough for the min withdrawl limit, find the most profitable exchange, create an account on said exchange (if I dont already have one), wait for it to show up in my exchange, and then sell, the price has normally already gone down from when it was most profitable therefore.....this same option on a regular multipool would be amazing

I think we have some other priorities to focus on before we start a BTC multipool. We have some ideas about anon, need to implement more of the optimized buying algorithm, and have some point-of-sale/storefront ideas we're also working on. Hopefully some others start developing stuff for VeriCoin but if not, we will be able to slowly but surely grow the VRC economy into one that rivals BitCoin.

I like your thinking, ive been following this coin since day one, i have a great 'gut' feeling on this coin.

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June 02, 2014, 09:50:32 PM
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yes thanks for clarifying how the pool worked, Dev Team can I request that after its done and stable you guys open another multipool that does the same thing except with BTC, thats my biggest problem is the disconnect between mining and exchange by the time I mine enough for the min withdrawl limit, find the most profitable exchange, create an account on said exchange (if I dont already have one), wait for it to show up in my exchange, and then sell, the price has normally already gone down from when it was most profitable therefore.....this same option on a regular multipool would be amazing

I think we have some other priorities to focus on before we start a BTC multipool. We have some ideas about anon, need to implement more of the optimized buying algorithm, and have some point-of-sale/storefront ideas we're also working on. Hopefully some others start developing stuff for VeriCoin but if not, we will be able to slowly but surely grow the VRC economy into one that rivals BitCoin.

BRAVO!!! pnosker

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June 02, 2014, 11:15:18 PM
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ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POW is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 


One fundamental mistake there, Highlighted and fixed in red!
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Last edit: June 03, 2014, 03:52:18 AM by Kevondo
 #1459

ok i missed something obviously I thought we were in PoS therefore how are we mining VRC?

Still in its infancy, the crypto world we R traveresing is a cyber-conundrum. The vast majority of people can't get their head around How BTC works. Those immersed in it R pressing on into the unknown creating code that's nebulous to all but those with IT and coding chops.

Here's how I THINK! Vericoin is proceeding.

POW is over. There is no publicly, active, mining going. Nor will there be. 26 Million Vericoin have been created.

HOWEVER. POS or Staking creates/mines coins to pay the interest on coins being staked. So the Block chain is being added too by this action

Coins must be in Wallets to Stake. If U keep your wallet open it's good for the stability of the network and the coins "age/mature" and are awarded interest every 8 hours they remain in the wallet continuously. While staking, these coins cannot be spent/transferred. You can set a reserve in your wallet so you can ALWAYS have the number of coins that U may want to trade or spend available.

The accounting of Spendable, Available, and unconfirmed is tracked by the wallet.


If u open your wallet once a year U will receive the staking interest for all coins that have been in there for more than 8 hours. Then they will begin aging/maturing again. In the once a year scenario I believe (not sure) all the staked coins would then mature in 8 hours and pay interest

For always Open Wallets: As Coins start aging when they arrive in your wallet, every 8 hours they remain there "Staking"  they generate interest. All interest is compounded. It's virtually impossible to get all your vericoin to stake simultaneously.

The VeriCoin Multipool

All hash (scrypt or X11 only) pointed @ the MultiPool is managed by an algorithm which selects the most profitable coins to mine @ that time. The coins being mined are anonymous to everyone but the pool master. The spoils from mining will then be sold on the open market for BTC on the exchange offering the best price. The total resulting BTC will then be used to BUY Vericoin (again @ the best price) on the open market and then distributed to the share holders in the MultiPool.

Payouts will be made @ an interval to be decided but more than once a day.

All this will happen automatically once the algo for the Multipool is complete.

Can U C the intricacies of coding that this algo requires? This is why it takes time  and why we R lucky to have

The Best Development Team in Crypto

working tirelessly in the best interest of the Crypto Community to make this daunting piece of software known as Vericoin a true Masterpiece

 
Dev's or anyone in the know please make me aware of any inaccuracies

 


One fundamental mistake there, Highlighted and fixed in red!

 Embarrassed Angry Shocked Huh Embarrassed U R Correct. A truly Fundamental Error on my part. Thanks for your careful reading of the post. It had a major BUG in it and I didn't even know. Thanks again

and I added an additional bit in Green for Clarity
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Remember to vote vote vote.... we are already bringing me volume then most coins on mintpal anyways... should be added!!!

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