[ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018

[ComputerGenie]

According to the very first post by Vorksholk in this thread:

Curecoins go to three main areas: Folders, Miners, and Developers. The folders get 76% of the total coins (80% of the coins distributed per day). SHA256 miners get 19% of the total coins (20% of the coins distributed per day). 2% of the total funds are distributed to people who donated to project development. The other 3% is dedicated to Curecoin developers, and will be used for paying for development costs (such as hiring professional programmers, paying for infrastructure, etc.), and for giving back to the community (folding hardware giveaways, faucets, covering 0% mining pools, etc.).

Indeed, you can at least read some. Now the part that you missed learning is that POS is "SHA256 mining"; which means that POW mining receives only a part of that 20%.
When POW hits as "high" as 125TH, then ASIC miners (POW) get about 21-22% of 20%.

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[QuintLeo]

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So probably a vote system based on "shares" i.e. how much CURE one owns would be the fairest from a business point of view...

So, in that theory, the guy that sold his coins to buy a new GTX1080s for dedicated folding gets little/no votes?

 GTX 1070s - they're more cost-efficient.

 Or Titan X Pascals - the ultimate folders regular people can get.

[ComputerGenie]

GTX 1070s - they're more cost-efficient.
 Or Titan X Pascals - the ultimate folders regular people can get.

Rate: 6 1080s = 6 1070s PLUS 1 980Ti (or even 1 TitanX)
Energy: 7 cards vs 6 to save ~30 watts

Past a hobby rig, whatever "savings" you have are lost in more risers and PSUs.
I'll keep the good stuff, thanks.

[shaka256]

Indeed, you can at least read some. Now the part that you missed learning is that POS is "SHA256 mining"; which means that POW mining receives only a part of that 20%.
When POW hits as "high" as 125TH, then ASIC miners (POW) get about 21-22% of 20%.

Thanks for the info. Yet why do you need to be so arrogant in your posts???

[ComputerGenie]

...Yet why do you need to be so arrogant in your posts???

It comes from the core of my being. 

[QuintLeo]

GTX 1070s - they're more cost-efficient.
 Or Titan X Pascals - the ultimate folders regular people can get.

Rate: 6 1080s = 6 1070s PLUS 1 980Ti (or even 1 TitanX)
Energy: 7 cards vs 6 to save ~30 watts

Past a hobby rig, whatever "savings" you have are lost in more risers and PSUs.
I'll keep the good stuff, thanks.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time.

Depending on WHICH benchmark aspect you look at, the Nano should be directly competative to the GTX 1070 on performance - but in real folding work it's quite a bit worse.


 Also, the COST of those 1080s is what I was talking about - energy efficiency is going to be pretty much a tossup either way, but paying more than 50% more for the cards for perhaps a 20% PPD improvement is NOT cost effective.


 Try finding a 1080 in an ITX form factor short card like the Gigabyte (I build 3 card rigs, but due to limitations of available motherboards I need a short card to allow for decent cooling of all 3 cards).
 I supposed I COULD use 2x 1080 and a single 1070 though, so that point is a strawman argument to a degree.


 The Titan X Pascal is also less cost-effective, though it earns enough more in bonus PPD it might be better on a PPD/watt basis.
 It is NOT cost effective on a PPD/$ basis even vs the 1080, much less the 1070.


 980 ti aren't worth buying any more, unless you can get a used one fairly cheap.
 Dunno why you included THAT in your comparison - that IS a strawman argument.



 I don't do riser rigs - have had too many issues with the bloody things back in the days I DID use them.

 2 x 3 card no riser rigs aren't much more expensive IF at all than a single 6 x riser rig - you can use smaller much less expensive PS (cost per watt on a PS is pretty much even for quality Gold rated supplies 'till you hit the 1000 watt ballpark, at which point it starts climbing pretty fast), you DO take a hit on the HD/SSD/Pen Drive + RAM + CPU doubling up, but you might make that up on the LOW COST very common motherboards for 3 slots vs the rather HIGH price very limited selection of motherboards that can handle 6, and you DEFINITELY make up some on not needing risers.

 It's also a lot easier to get a 3 card rig to work in the first place, though once you get a rig to work at all it's not hard to "clone" it if you're running Ubuntu/Xubuntu - would be trivial if Ubuntu/XUbuntu used LILO instead of that PITA Grub bootloader with it's usage of that stupid majorly irritating UID garbage instead of standard drive designations.

 Non-riser machines also tend to be more reliable, and if you have a riser rig go down you lose ALL of the production from it vs. half if you have 2 x non-riser machines and one goes down.

[ComputerGenie]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time...

...

GTX 1070   2,067
GTX 1080   1,986

OK, I might concede some points after that if the overclockings were similar/comparable.
Come on, +500 on the 1070 and +300 on the 1080, really?
 


Edit: I was wrong about 1 thing, though, the chart was Maxwell on the Titan

[QuintLeo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#

Much more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark, which only tests specific aspects of folding one at a time...

...

GTX 1070   2,067
GTX 1080   1,986

OK, I might concede some points after that if the overclockings were similar/comparable.
Come on, +500 on the 1070 and +300 on the 1080, really?
 


Edit: I was wrong about 1 thing, though, the chart was Maxwell on the Titan

 Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?

 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

[QuintLeo]

On a completely different subject - the CureCoin forum is no longer accessable with Chrome, *apparently* due to it's use of an outdated encryption protocal (probably RC4 that was CRACKED a while back).

[ComputerGenie]

Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?
 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

OK, here's the problem with your chart of randomness: It provides no definable intel to compare even like items and it raises many questions.

Not the least of these questions is: Where did mbmumford get that magical GTX1070?
11/21/2016   P9676   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1531   7544   1920   0:00:07   729,806   R1, C71, G183   Windows 10 x64   [0x18]   5,879.00   8.1
And how did it so vastly outperform his overclock?
10/31/2016   P13201   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1886   7604   1920   0:01:38   686,432   R17, C4, G0   Windows 10 x64   [0x21]   7,242.20   10.6

Is it the same unit with 2 separate runs?

[shaka256]

It is very likely that our team will be ranked #2 right on Christmas Eve!  
Hope Santa will bring some good Champagne!

[shaka256]

Has anyone tried to mix NVidia and AMD GPUs on the same Linux Folding Rig?

[QuintLeo]

Is the 1080 capable of being overclocked as much as the 1070?
 I do concede some of those overclocks (on ALL of the cards) are fairly extreme - but that doesn't negate my point about "real data from real folding".

OK, here's the problem with your chart of randomness: It provides no definable intel to compare even like items and it raises many questions.

Not the least of these questions is: Where did mbmumford get that magical GTX1070?
11/21/2016   P9676   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1531   7544   1920   0:00:07   729,806   R1, C71, G183   Windows 10 x64   [0x18]   5,879.00   8.1
And how did it so vastly outperform his overclock?
10/31/2016   P13201   mbmumford   GTX 1070   1886   7604   1920   0:01:38   686,432   R17, C4, G0   Windows 10 x64   [0x21]   7,242.20   10.6

Is it the same unit with 2 separate runs?

 Different unit types have different speeds - very old news there.

 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

[QuintLeo]

Has anyone tried to mix NVidia and AMD GPUs on the same Linux Folding Rig?

 When I set up a new rig, it keeps grabbing my GPU from the A10 for folding on - it SHOULD work but I tend to avoid running AMD stuff on folding 'cause it's a lot less efficient.
 If AMD ever gets a HIGH END RX series card out that might change - the RX 480 is pretty good for a mid-range card on a PPD/watt and PPD/$ basis.

[ComputerGenie]

...
 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries. 

[shaka256]

- it SHOULD work but I tend to avoid running AMD stuff on folding 'cause it's a lot less efficient.

I actually already have 4 R9-280 per rig and I'd like to plug one NVIDIA high end card in the remaining PCIE slot on the MB...

[ComputerGenie]

It is very likely that our team will be ranked #2 right on Christmas Eve!  
Hope Santa will bring some good Champagne!

I had originally replied to this in good cheer (a pic of Santa holding a glass), but it seems someone has an issue with the idea of a fictional character bringing you a glass of bubbly 

[artoar_11]

Hackers Have Stolen Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoin -- Using Only Phone Numbers

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/12/20/hackers-have-stolen-millions-of-dollars-in-bitcoin-using-only-phone-numbers/#756913c622db

[ComputerGenie]

Hackers Have Stolen Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoin -- Using Only Phone Numbers

If he's been "in Bitcoin" since there were "4 computers on the network" and he didn't secure his coins and his keys, then he deserves to lose it.

https://youtu.be/F12lpqnug-0

[QuintLeo]

...
 P9676 unit vs a P13210 unit in the examples you post.

 G183 bonus vs G0 bonus is also a major factor. Higher numbers on that indicate a lot higher "early return bonus" which is what higher-end NVidia cards thrive on.

Now you're beginning to get the point; your "more accurate info using REAL folding of REAL units than the benchmark" is meaningless because you're comparing apples to bananas and rounding off to arrive at oranges and strawberries. 

 No, it's more accurate because it includes REAL mining data, abet the very precision of the date might overwhelm most.

 There IS a listing that shows "summary of PPD per card type". Perhaps that's what you're looking for?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#