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Author Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos  (Read 1484218 times)
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June 11, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help.  they are supposed to point out problems.  Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

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correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?



He isnt just showing the mixer address.  He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet.  That is a problem.
Where? all i see are mixer addresses. Thats the hole idea behind a mixer
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June 11, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help.  they are supposed to point out problems.  Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

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correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?



He isnt just showing the mixer address.  He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet.  That is a problem.


that wallet is not the original wallet



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June 11, 2014, 07:21:44 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point.  Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue.  If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

oh his best dtk mate is back, what issue has he raised or shown other than that he cannot work out the challenge.. Which as it stands suggests that rev 1 is err rather anonymous...

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June 11, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point.  Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue.  If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

oh his best dtk mate is back, what issue has he raised or shown other than that he cannot work out the challenge.. Which as it stands suggests that rev 1 is err rather anonymous...


correct, the wallet it points back to is the not the original senders wallet

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June 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
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I have had my Xnode up and running now for over 24 hours, nothing is happening which leads me to believe it is not working.  Now losing out on staking too:-(

Anyone have any ideas?
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June 11, 2014, 07:23:15 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help.  they are supposed to point out problems.  Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?



He isnt just showing the mixer address.  He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet.  That is a problem.


that wallet is the MIXER wallet.. not the original senders wallet



Exactly this.
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June 11, 2014, 07:25:44 PM
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I have had my Xnode up and running now for over 24 hours, nothing is happening which leads me to believe it is not working.  Now losing out on staking too:-(

Anyone have any ideas?

not many are using anon transactions at this point - so you may not see them.  once it picks up you will.
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June 11, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
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Alright, time to move on?

Your account locked, please contact support.
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June 11, 2014, 07:27:58 PM
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Thank you for an entertaining evening  Cheesy
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June 11, 2014, 07:29:00 PM
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Alright, time to move on?
One sec, let me enjoy the moment Wink
Fck ATC, how did you realize this in so little time?
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June 11, 2014, 07:29:17 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help.  they are supposed to point out problems.  Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?



He isnt just showing the mixer address.  He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet.  That is a problem.


that wallet is the MIXER wallet.. not the original senders wallet



Exactly this.

Okay, case closed.  Everyone can resume their panic buys now.  
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June 11, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
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I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help.  they are supposed to point out problems.  Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?



He isnt just showing the mixer address.  He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet.  That is a problem.


that wallet is the MIXER wallet.. not the original senders wallet



Exactly this.

Okay, case closed.  Everyone can resume their panic buys now.  

Or panic hold? heheh

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June 11, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
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Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched.... Grin
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June 11, 2014, 07:30:58 PM
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that wallet is the MIXER wallet.. not the original senders wallet



Exactly this.

Okay, case closed.  Everyone can resume their panic buys now.  

 Grin yup
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June 11, 2014, 07:31:53 PM
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new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.
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June 11, 2014, 07:34:57 PM
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Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched.... Grin
Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?


From sender, with NEW address.
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June 11, 2014, 07:38:22 PM
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Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched.... Grin
Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?


From sender, with NEW address.

Okay... but you still don't know who the original sender is, correct?  Isn't that the point of anonymous transfers -- to mask the original sender's address?
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June 11, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
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I think everyone needs to chill out and let people work together.  

Whatever his motives, Chapelin is giving his time to this product, and we should be grateful for that.

At this point, with very few transaction, by scrubbing addresses and matching transactions in/out, he can find an address tied to the wallet.

So trying to say he is wrong - is wrong.  

I would imagine if we treated him with a little more respect, he would probably do the same in return.  

Once transactions pick up, it may be a lot harder to track those transactions, but by using his method - whatever it be, he most likely would be able to match the transaction, or at least narrow it down.

if the sent matches the received, it most likely will be able to be flagged if not by the eye, by a piece of software.



+1
hes is giving his time to discrediting a competition product to his investment with zero intention to help or ever say "yes  it works". he never proves anything and you idiot still wanna be gratefull and give this  guy more respect?
he has gotten way more respect than he deserves already. You don't get it . he doesn't want to help and he laughes his ass off to guys like you still beeing nice to him. its crazy

Nice to see some fighting spirit in this community finally from dev and some of the other guys.
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June 11, 2014, 07:39:29 PM
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Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched.... Grin
Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?


From sender, with NEW address.


of course you can find the sender address used by mixer as it has a direct link to the receiver

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June 11, 2014, 07:40:10 PM
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Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched.... Grin
Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?


From sender, with NEW address.


of course you can find the sender address used by mixer as it has a direct link to the receiver

but the point is what is the original users sender address?


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