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[sukottosan_d]

new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.

[chaeplin]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

[battbot]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

Okay... but you still don't know who the original sender is, correct?  Isn't that the point of anonymous transfers -- to mask the original sender's address?

[hoertest]

I think everyone needs to chill out and let people work together.  

Whatever his motives, Chapelin is giving his time to this product, and we should be grateful for that.

At this point, with very few transaction, by scrubbing addresses and matching transactions in/out, he can find an address tied to the wallet.

So trying to say he is wrong - is wrong.  

I would imagine if we treated him with a little more respect, he would probably do the same in return.  

Once transactions pick up, it may be a lot harder to track those transactions, but by using his method - whatever it be, he most likely would be able to match the transaction, or at least narrow it down.

if the sent matches the received, it most likely will be able to be flagged if not by the eye, by a piece of software.

+1

hes is giving his time to discrediting a competition product to his investment with zero intention to help or ever say "yes  it works". he never proves anything and you idiot still wanna be gratefull and give this  guy more respect?
he has gotten way more respect than he deserves already. You don't get it . he doesn't want to help and he laughes his ass off to guys like you still beeing nice to him. its crazy

Nice to see some fighting spirit in this community finally from dev and some of the other guys.

[atcsecure]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

of course you can find the sender address used by mixer as it has a direct link to the receiver

[atcsecure]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

of course you can find the sender address used by mixer as it has a direct link to the receiver

but the point is what is the original users sender address?

[hoertest]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

Thats not the Sender , AAAAHHHHHHH !!!!!

[sukottosan_d]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

Okay... but you still don't know who the original sender is, correct?  Isn't that the point of anonymous transfers -- to mask the original sender's address?

Urm, that's the same as just generating a new bitcoin address and sending a transaction.

[braxx]

new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.

sukottosan...
as a follower of the thread I can tell you there is a reason why the official xc-thread is now a moderated thread...
FUD & Trolling from dark on the original thread were tremendous... even official drk twitter account was used for trolling...

The guy's here are very carefull with newcomers who are suddenly coming over from dark...

[chaeplin]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

Okay... but you still don't know who the original sender is, correct?  Isn't that the point of anonymous transfers -- to mask the original sender's address?

Mixer identified.
Input of mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb == output from sender XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will not be used again for any sender.

So XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw == XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb.
Compare output, count blocks, check explorer, input of XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will be user for output for another sender.
Can find related output address.

That's what i am doing in analysis aka mapping.

[cyberhacker]

as a follower of the thread I can tell you there is a reason why the official xc-thread is now a moderated thread...
FUD & Trolling from dark on the original thread were tremendous... even official drk twitter account was used for trolling...

The guy's here are very carefull with newcomers who are suddenly coming over from dark...

lol.

actually i am fking sick of personal attack to XC Dev.

that is unacceptable.

i do not wanna point out their sick names

[sukottosan_d]

new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.

sukottosan...
as a follower of the thread I can tell you there is a reason why the official xc-thread is now a moderated thread...
FUD & Trolling from dark on the original thread were tremendous... even official drk twitter account was used for trolling...

The guy's here are very carefull with newcomers who are suddenly coming over from dark...

Well, I apologize for my sudden entry.
I am evaluating XC for personal reasons and I do things in sudden bursts...
I'll go away for weeks at a time and then do 1000 pages of research in two days....
So I guess me jumping it looks timely....yes, it did correspond to XC attention...but I'm really just looking for answers, not looking to do the FUD thing...got interested because of the debate and wanted to look at the problem myself.

[mav137]

new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.

I apologize for the community defensiveness, it has been very hard to stay positive under the influences / trolls that these guys have been receiving Have a look at the old and now closed unmanaged topic, it appears this board as a whole is not a productive place to announce new innovative technology.

Either way, there will be pushing back when XC gets pushed. XC is a coin to take into account. The community support is great here and the Dev iseven better. Such a shame he had to spend his hours here today with these challanges. Talent like that should not be wasted.

The coin is V1 and in Beta. A lot of promises have been made and are worked up to. With this anonymity already working, the V2 will be even more mindblowing.  

[greyskies]

All we have here is DRK troll Chaeplin with his broken english not making sense and going around in circles whilst still not able to establish the original users sender address.

[gen369]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

of course you can find the sender address used by mixer as it has a direct link to the receiver

but the point is what is the original users sender address?

It looks to me that chaeplin just wants to grab your attention as much as possible so you would waste your time answering him. He just proved that he doesn't know how to find the original sender address. He only showed the mixer sender address and that's where his huge investigation ends...Exactly as it should by design

[chaeplin]

All we have here is DRK troll Chaeplin with his broken english not making sense and going around in circles whilst still not able to establish the original users sender address.

Mixer identified.
Input of mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb == output from sender XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will not be used again for any sender.

So XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw == XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb.
Compare output, count blocks, check explorer, input of XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will be user for output for another sender.
Can find related output address.

That's what i am doing in analysis aka mapping.

[cyberhacker]

I'm just asking for some info..
I know DRK fanboys are also pretty trollish. I was looking for information because I'd expect it to be available.
If it isn't, that's fine, I just thought it would be.

I get why you guys are defensive...but geez.
Some of you already jumped on me because I'm always in the DRK thread...which is true.
Not hiding it.
Except, DRK was the first and only crypto I've ever participated in - the community was good, the profits were good and are good - so I stayed.
Trying to get more involved in stuff - wanted to research and see if I can see what chaeplin does on the same level ....

But this is definitely not a productive place for anyone from the outside.

sorry if any offense.

welcome any productive questions.

Thanks a lot.

[KimmyF]

All we have here is DRK troll Chaeplin with his broken english not making sense and going around in circles whilst still not able to establish the original users sender address.

Mixer identified.
Input of mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb == output from sender XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will not be used again for any sender.

So XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw == XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb.
Compare output, count blocks, check explorer, input of XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will be user for output for another sender.
Can find related output address.

That's what i am doing in analysis aka mapping.

GTFO: The guy has a lot of knowledge, who cares about his english. Facts are facts & all that count

[cyberhacker]

All we have here is DRK troll Chaeplin with his broken english not making sense and going around in circles whilst still not able to establish the original users sender address.

Mixer identified.
Input of mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb == output from sender XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will not be used again for any sender.

So XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw == XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb.
Compare output, count blocks, check explorer, input of XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will be user for output for another sender.
Can find related output address.

That's what i am doing in analysis aka mapping.

GTFO: The guy has a lot of knowledge, who cares about his english. Facts are facts & all that count

+1

without this man we can't get this far so soon.  

but he destroy the price uptrend indeed

[sukottosan_d]

Dev can deny.

Here is point.

Mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb is used for sender.



One time.

Every input to mixer got NEW address.


Matched....

Are you serious? Where did the mixer get the coins from? who clicked the send button?

From sender, with NEW address.

Okay... but you still don't know who the original sender is, correct?  Isn't that the point of anonymous transfers -- to mask the original sender's address?

Mixer identified.
Input of mixer address XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb == output from sender XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will not be used again for any sender.

So XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw == XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb.
Compare output, count blocks, check explorer, input of XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb will be user for output for another sender.
Can find related output address.

That's what i am doing in analysis aka mapping.

I don't understand what is wrong with chaeplin's analysis here.
He proves a sender is tied to one mixer.... and then to an output.

You can change the wallet address, the anonymity has to assume the sender's wallet can be identified and addresses can be pulled from that...
You can change an address in your bitcoin wallet already and send from a new address....but that's not anonymity because, say...a search warrant was enacted against you...they can just get that info from your machine - or maybe they pull your address from a known transaction (ex. transaction with an online store that has it tied to your account with them).
So..bitcoin has that level of anonymity already.
The solution has to assume this is possible and still make the transactions anonymous regardless.


Please, can someone explain what piece I am missing?...and this isn't FUD...I'm actually asking. I must be missing something, right?