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September 23, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
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An alternative for those wishing to buy btc in the UK: https://blockchain.info/wallet/deposit-pingit

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September 26, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
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prob a dumb question i know you cant do bank transfers, deposits in uk. but can you still recieve and send btc from ppl in the uk from your intersango account Huh?

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September 26, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
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prob a dumb question i know you cant do bank transfers, deposits in uk. but can you still recieve and send btc from ppl in the uk from your intersango account Huh?

Sure. But why would it be limited to the UK?

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September 26, 2012, 06:43:32 PM
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prob a dumb question i know you cant do bank transfers, deposits in uk. but can you still recieve and send btc from ppl in the uk from your intersango account Huh?
I don't see any reason not to be able to send and receive BTC from/to your Intersango bitcoin address. Those BTC could come or go from/to anyone in the whole world, since Intersango can't know what your bitcoin address might be, to limit that.

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September 26, 2012, 07:13:04 PM
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told u it was dumb thnaks for answering though cheers

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September 28, 2012, 09:35:28 PM
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Could somebody please explain to me exactly why Intersango should be accused of money laundering and drugsale?

Intersango was aware some time ago that there was a guy using his Intersango account to receive payments for drugs.  It's been posted about before on the board and the posts elsewhere which gave his specific account information were linked.  The Intersango account information for the individual concerned can be found in the thread Phin linked to back in July.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63877.msg1053283#msg1053283

Even if they were not aware of that information, it's still on them to ensure that people using their bank account are doing so for a lawful purpose and that they know the identities of people using their bank account.  

The legal responsibility for the use of a bank account rests with it's owner.  If I agree to put a cheque through my bank account for a friend and that cheque turns out to be stolen/forged, that comes back on me.  If someone asks me if they can keep money in my bank account and the funds they deposit into my account turn out to be the proceeds of crime, that comes back on me - that person is money laundering and I'm am facilitating it.

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September 29, 2012, 12:22:06 AM
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Could somebody please explain to me exactly why Intersango should be accused of money laundering and drugsale?

Intersango was aware some time ago that there was a guy using his Intersango account to receive payments for drugs.  It's been posted about before on the board and the posts elsewhere which gave his specific account information were linked.  The Intersango account information for the individual concerned can be found in the thread Phin linked to back in July.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63877.msg1053283#msg1053283

Even if they were not aware of that information, it's still on them to ensure that people using their bank account are doing so for a lawful purpose and that they know the identities of people using their bank account.  

The legal responsibility for the use of a bank account rests with it's owner.  If I agree to put a cheque through my bank account for a friend and that cheque turns out to be stolen/forged, that comes back on me.  If someone asks me if they can keep money in my bank account and the funds they deposit into my account turn out to be the proceeds of crime, that comes back on me - that person is money laundering and I'm am facilitating it.

repetance, you use to have good posts. Following your logic, what if a person extracts money from a banks ATM, then he proceeds to purchase drugs and a gun, he sells the drugs to drug users, and he kills someone with the gun. Why do we never see a bank be held responsible for this ?

That's right, because they could not know. What if someone called the bank and said: "Joe Smith is buying drugs with money he withdraws from the ATM!" Would the bank care? And if they did not care, would they ever be punished?

I understand 'The legal responsibility for the use of a bank account rests with it's owner.', however there must be several companies that have a bank account where clients deposit money, and that money is used to purchase in-game credits or any other stuff or service the company may provide. What if a company sells shovels online? All payments goes to a bank account, and then it suddenly becomes known that a mafia group regularily purchases shovels from them, which is used to bury people that are 'eliminated'. Would the shovel company be held responsible if they didn't know? And how could it be proved that they did in fact know, but did take no action ?
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September 30, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
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Ok, so i have some question.

I can see on the status page that transfers are not available but this does not tell me enough about what is happening.

Some basic information would be helpful: (Tansparency is good even if it means you have to admit mistakes or problems)

Have Intersango team made enquiries about a new banking account for Intersango?
Have they got any banks approval to do business with them?
If so
how far in this process are they?
How long is the process expected to take?

Are the allegations of drug dealing causing problems in establishing a new banking account?

In ToS there is provision to close account and be paid by cheque, is this still available?



I raised a ticket and asked:

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Do you have any feel for when, if ever, UK transfers will become available again?
I am not asking for a precise statement - a vague indication would be enough... "in a couple of months", "this year sometime", "in a year or two", "not likely to happen" - whatever!

The response I got, from Patrick, was:

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We have no ETA

Not stunningly informative!

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September 30, 2012, 07:09:44 PM
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Intersango is now fail IMO.

all my funds were removed at a premium cost to myself.


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September 30, 2012, 07:26:23 PM
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Its not just Intersango.  Mt Gox is no longer accepting UK deposits, so it could spread.

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September 30, 2012, 11:09:26 PM
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Ok, so i have some question.

I can see on the status page that transfers are not available but this does not tell me enough about what is happening.

Some basic information would be helpful: (Tansparency is good even if it means you have to admit mistakes or problems)

Have Intersango team made enquiries about a new banking account for Intersango?
Have they got any banks approval to do business with them?
If so
how far in this process are they?
How long is the process expected to take?

Are the allegations of drug dealing causing problems in establishing a new banking account?

In ToS there is provision to close account and be paid by cheque, is this still available?



I raised a ticket and asked:

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Do you have any feel for when, if ever, UK transfers will become available again?
I am not asking for a precise statement - a vague indication would be enough... "in a couple of months", "this year sometime", "in a year or two", "not likely to happen" - whatever!

The response I got, from Patrick, was:

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We have no ETA

Not stunningly informative!



In case you haven't noticed we have absolutely no control over the actions of the banks.

When I say we have no ETA that is because I truly and genuinely cannot give a real estimate.

If you would prefer that I lied to you then how about this.

Tuesday October 16th at 09:01:45.

Feel better? I'm guessing not.
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October 01, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
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wouldnt expect anything less from usual bunch of spitters and shitters @ intersango

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October 01, 2012, 03:17:31 PM
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Ok, so i have some question.

I can see on the status page that transfers are not available but this does not tell me enough about what is happening.

Some basic information would be helpful: (Tansparency is good even if it means you have to admit mistakes or problems)

Have Intersango team made enquiries about a new banking account for Intersango?
Have they got any banks approval to do business with them?
If so
how far in this process are they?
How long is the process expected to take?

Are the allegations of drug dealing causing problems in establishing a new banking account?

In ToS there is provision to close account and be paid by cheque, is this still available?



I raised a ticket and asked:

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Do you have any feel for when, if ever, UK transfers will become available again?
I am not asking for a precise statement - a vague indication would be enough... "in a couple of months", "this year sometime", "in a year or two", "not likely to happen" - whatever!

The response I got, from Patrick, was:

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We have no ETA

Not stunningly informative!



In case you haven't noticed we have absolutely no control over the actions of the banks.

When I say we have no ETA that is because I truly and genuinely cannot give a real estimate.

If you would prefer that I lied to you then how about this.

Tuesday October 16th at 09:01:45.

Feel better? I'm guessing not.

this attitude stinks! what a shame for intersango, i can only see this failing miserably now.

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October 02, 2012, 05:13:32 AM
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wouldnt expect anything less from usual bunch of spitters and shitters @ intersango



Your problem is that you forgot to give him "fucking respect".   Wink



the only "respect"  i could give intersango would involve them getting on their  knees and swallowing it
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October 02, 2012, 09:47:36 AM
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still nothing, why so long?!

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October 03, 2012, 09:56:17 PM
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Ok, so i have some question.

I can see on the status page that transfers are not available but this does not tell me enough about what is happening.

Some basic information would be helpful: (Tansparency is good even if it means you have to admit mistakes or problems)

Have Intersango team made enquiries about a new banking account for Intersango?
Have they got any banks approval to do business with them?
If so
how far in this process are they?
How long is the process expected to take?

Are the allegations of drug dealing causing problems in establishing a new banking account?

In ToS there is provision to close account and be paid by cheque, is this still available?



I raised a ticket and asked:

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Do you have any feel for when, if ever, UK transfers will become available again?
I am not asking for a precise statement - a vague indication would be enough... "in a couple of months", "this year sometime", "in a year or two", "not likely to happen" - whatever!

The response I got, from Patrick, was:

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We have no ETA

Not stunningly informative!



In case you haven't noticed we have absolutely no control over the actions of the banks.

When I say we have no ETA that is because I truly and genuinely cannot give a real estimate.

If you would prefer that I lied to you then how about this.

Tuesday October 16th at 09:01:45.

Feel better? I'm guessing not.

I wasn't asking for or hoping for a real estimate, but even some vague feel would help. Simply to know that you are trying to get UK transfer working again would be nice, or to know that there is no hope of them ever becoming available again would be helpful. At the moment, UK users of Intersango have no idea at all whether we will ever again be able to trade our Bitcoins through Intersango or not.

Are any alternatives to banks possible? Could I simply send you cash through registered post? Postal orders? Checks through the post? Your terms page, https://intersango.com/terms.php, mentions checks when discussing account closure. I know that any money transfer method used must be irreversible otherwise there is large potential for fraud... but a wad of banknotes in a registered envelope is hard to charge back!

Obviously, bank transfers are quicker, more convenient, involve less human time and effort... but if they are not to be, they are not to be and any and all alternatives must be suggested, even if only so they can be rejected in the attempt to find a better solution.

FWIW, I would like Intersango to start functioning again, and hopefully to become an exchange where I and others can trade our Bitcoins and Pounds without the nagging doubts that go with waiting a week for transferred funds to show up in the account, or waiting day after day for a requested withdrawal to be actioned.
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October 09, 2012, 06:08:48 PM
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How is Intersango doing with sorting out their GBP transfers (in and out of exchange)? I currently see no ETA yet as I presume that a new bank hasn't been found yet but still at least update us once in a while. Speaking of exchanges (i know this may seem a little off topic) does anyone know of an exchange that still does GBP and BTC trads (buying/selling)? As I've been unable to trade for a long time (over 2 months now).


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October 09, 2012, 06:29:19 PM
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They just announced that the USD exchange is closing due to low volume. They handle this better than TradeHill did : they put bitcoins on sell to make it easier for people holding USD to get out (Bitcoin withdrawals are faster).

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October 09, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
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For the curious, here is the mail I received from support@intersango.com:
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Intersango's USD market will stop trading 2012-10-14 at approximately midnight UTC.

At this time we ask that persons with USD funds either place a withdrawal request or purchase bitcoins.

To facilitate persons wishing to purchase bitcoins Intersango has placed 625 BTC up for sale at 12.1 USD.

Unfortunately the USD market is simply too small to justify it's ongoing operation.

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Trade BTC for €/$ at bitcoin.de (referral), it's cheaper and faster (acts as escrow and lets the buyers do bank transfers).
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October 10, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
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They just announced that the USD exchange is closing due to low volume. They handle this better than TradeHill did : they put bitcoins on sell to make it easier for people holding USD to get out (Bitcoin withdrawals are faster).

30 cents overmarket, but yea.

So, no more GBP, USD closing down, are they specialising in BWP?

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