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May 21, 2018, 05:39:40 AM
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Someone has practised with Google Doc's Science Templates Smiley
and found the Dev's fingerprint from the PoI algorithm Wink

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13M3wbdjI0Nzx-OKAd0dRCfOYFA_oT9Ydg96DkiUBsDs/edit?usp=sharing


We've briefly seen the paper, it's good to see time taken to do outsider's analysis.

regarding fingerprint, problem is the data used:
  • the doc takes all harvested, but balance/importance of an account could change over time... (i.e. take a look at funny outliers presented in a table above, that have high hBlks/r_imp_H, balance is very low, what does it tell you? the doc even states Balance:  r_hBlks / r_imp_H  has a weak correlation 0.344 should it really be surprising if you take ALL harvested blocks, but take only LATEST importance?)
  • fingerprint graph on x has balance, on y has hBlks/r_imp_H,
    • mind that there's correlation between balance and importance...
    • as you can see pattern emerges for low amounts (10k - 100k), so emerging pattern shouldn't really be surprising,
      with low amount you probably generate only few blocks (10-100) so what you have on this image is <some small integer> / importance x balance,
      i.e. compare two accounts with same r_imp_H, where one harvested 9 blocks and other 10 blocks: (9 / 1601000) / (0.00003) = 0.1873 vs (10 / 1601000) / (0.00003) = 0.2082, thats' where the vertical gaps come from,
      horizontal linearity should be obvious as well, bigger balance == bit bigger importance, i.e (10 / 1601000) / (0.000031) = 0.2014 vs (10 / 1601000) / (0.000030) 0.2082  
     


yes, those were good explanations ...
you insiders can easier explain the empirical studies and "phenomenons" Smiley


> ALL harvested blocks, but take only LATEST importance

yes, that is also in the doc's last statement: "Also the statistics of current states should be replaced with the values, which are more related to the moment of the occured harvesting"

It is a honest wish, that you insiders would make a total proof against that "practical claim" Wink
The total proof would be e.g. such a re-simulation, where the current blockchain is re-run and for each harvested block the importance of the harvester is computed. Then would be possible to get the actual importance, and then also the numbers, which set the PoI in the more correct position when compared to PoS.




or ...

maybe no re-simulation is needed, but only use of this :

Retrieving historical account data

API path:   Request type: GET
/account/historical/get              

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Code:
{
    "data": [
        {
          "height": 17592,
          "address": "NALICELGU3IVY4DPJKHYLSSVYFFWYS5QPLYEZDJJ",
          "balance": 509676000000,
          "vestedBalance": 100999147150,
          "unvestedBalance": 408676852850,
          "importance": 0.00008857563463531297,                                                                /* IMPORTANCE  */
          "pageRank": 0.0007605047835049349
        }
    ]
}


Strange that the function was missed in the study  Cool  Cry
New (added in some phase?) feature in the API, or just busy, or "blindness" in reading the API version X ...


To the API should be added also
/account/future/get/moretime
/account/future/get/vacation ... Wink
            


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Other blockchain technologies have used NEM to create coins for raising funds. One example was the GRAFT blockchain, a payment processing system for cryptocurrency. ICO was used to raise money. Then when their blockchain premined all their coins, they swapped the NEM tokens/coins for their graft blockchain's native coin.

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May 21, 2018, 02:23:18 PM
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But you will notice more and more projects moving from ETH to NEM.
Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?
Incomplete. as it says give an example of a project moving from ETH to NEM. Do not let your talk on the stamp as nonsense.
I really like this crypto, first of all its much faster than many of them right now. I like ethereum as well, but I like teh platform that NEM offers, cant wait to see what they have in store for us.

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#NEM Interim President Kristof @kvandereck will participate in the Intercontinental Blockchain Conference on May 24! The event is hosted by @TonyGuoga in cooperation with Blockchain Centre Vilnius. More info: http://ep-blockchain-conference.eu/

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May 21, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
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Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?

Also Bankera will make tokens on NEM after finalizing the ERC-223 on the ETH blockchain:

https://blog.bankera.com/2018/05/17/audit-of-the-bnk-smart-contract-security-over-speed/

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I like this coin! Thix coin have basic value! Hodl XEM!!
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May 21, 2018, 04:29:58 PM
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I think most people use ethereum because it's the ICO machine. And eth devs are a dime a dozen. I think most do not even look into NEM at all. But that's starting to change. We are looking more and more projects moving over from eth, and new ones sprouting up on NEM almost everyday.


But that's something quite normal. ETH is branded linke the ICO institution of all Cryptos, and that leads to more and more people using it for their companies. Most likely the projects with limited developer knowledge just use ETH because a lot others do too and it´s an amazing  Buzz word for people not long  in the space. But you will notice more and more projects moving from ETH to NEM. And that are mostly projects with more underlaying quality
Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?

Here is one recent example.

https://medium.com/nemofficial/from-ethereum-to-nem-the-case-of-tutellus-13dc4b80e5a1

There are a few projects with proposals appearing in Telegram which are going to switch or which tried ETH first and later adopted NEM.

This is no hate for ETH at all from my side but i am more than sure that at least 50% of the ICO Teams just picked ETH because of the laziness and the unawareness of the people they were trying to collect money from.

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Please vote on the Nasdaq Coin Acceptance Poll!
1. Follow this link to facebook.
2. Select "Other"
3. Type "NEM XEM"
4. Click submit to cast your vote and support NEM!
https://poll.fbapp.io/which-coins-would-you-like-to-see-on-dx-exchange/byH5q4ld
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May 21, 2018, 05:43:02 PM
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I think most people use ethereum because it's the ICO machine. And eth devs are a dime a dozen. I think most do not even look into NEM at all. But that's starting to change. We are looking more and more projects moving over from eth, and new ones sprouting up on NEM almost everyday.


But that's something quite normal. ETH is branded linke the ICO institution of all Cryptos, and that leads to more and more people using it for their companies. Most likely the projects with limited developer knowledge just use ETH because a lot others do too and it´s an amazing  Buzz word for people not long  in the space. But you will notice more and more projects moving from ETH to NEM. And that are mostly projects with more underlaying quality
Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?

Here is one recent example.

https://medium.com/nemofficial/from-ethereum-to-nem-the-case-of-tutellus-13dc4b80e5a1

There are a few projects with proposals appearing in Telegram which are going to switch or which tried ETH first and later adopted NEM.

This is no hate for ETH at all from my side but i am more than sure that at least 50% of the ICO Teams just picked ETH because of the laziness and the unawareness of the people they were trying to collect money from.

Thanks for that. Was genuinely curious, and this seems like an interesting data point that might point to a larger trend down the line.
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Always like this coin, keeping an eye on it!
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Please vote on the Nasdaq Coin Acceptance Poll!
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3. Type "NEM XEM"
4. Click submit to cast your vote and support NEM!
https://poll.fbapp.io/which-coins-would-you-like-to-see-on-dx-exchange/byH5q4ld

We must spread words about this project to take place on that big exchange to get more attention from mainstream investors. I just did my part I hope this coin successfully get listed because of great support from the community.

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May 21, 2018, 08:27:18 PM
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Spreading the word is all I do in my free time. Some say I am doing a good job, some dislike it. That's why I always seek for a feedback. Here is my new video in which I am comparing NEM to Waves:

https://youtu.be/PdDordajti4

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May 21, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
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An Interview with NEM Core Developer gimre
Part of the Catapult (mijin v.2) Preview Beta Launch Series With Alex Tinsman, Global Director of Communications for NEM


 Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink




https://medium.com/nemofficial/an-interview-with-nem-developer-gimre-1f5ea69b72d1


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Please vote on the Nasdaq Coin Acceptance Poll!
1. Follow this link to facebook.
2. Select "Other"
3. Type "NEM XEM"
4. Click submit to cast your vote and support NEM!
https://poll.fbapp.io/which-coins-would-you-like-to-see-on-dx-exchange/byH5q4ld
Done

NEM is the future
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May 22, 2018, 05:35:02 AM
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I think most people use ethereum because it's the ICO machine. And eth devs are a dime a dozen. I think most do not even look into NEM at all. But that's starting to change. We are looking more and more projects moving over from eth, and new ones sprouting up on NEM almost everyday.


But that's something quite normal. ETH is branded linke the ICO institution of all Cryptos, and that leads to more and more people using it for their companies. Most likely the projects with limited developer knowledge just use ETH because a lot others do too and it´s an amazing  Buzz word for people not long  in the space. But you will notice more and more projects moving from ETH to NEM. And that are mostly projects with more underlaying quality
Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?

Here is one recent example.

https://medium.com/nemofficial/from-ethereum-to-nem-the-case-of-tutellus-13dc4b80e5a1

There are a few projects with proposals appearing in Telegram which are going to switch or which tried ETH first and later adopted NEM.

This is no hate for ETH at all from my side but i am more than sure that at least 50% of the ICO Teams just picked ETH because of the laziness and the unawareness of the people they were trying to collect money from.

Thanks for that. Was genuinely curious, and this seems like an interesting data point that might point to a larger trend down the line.

I will try to collect the other examples I noticed in Telegram. But that was the biggest. I know there is a switch ongoing from a project in the online gaming/ casino sector, but the final details are not revealed yet. Mostly the projects picking NEM are filing a community proposal other than an ICO. But especially after the catapult release and moving, i am quite sure we will see some more switches from ETH

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May 22, 2018, 12:11:28 PM
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Is there any hope for this coin? It’s never recovered since the hack and catapult has been teasing us for over a year (which is = to decades in the crypto market) seems like XEM is just another pie in the sky.

It’s gold for nerds
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May 22, 2018, 01:37:34 PM
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Is there any hope for this coin? It’s never recovered since the hack and catapult has been teasing us for over a year (which is = to decades in the crypto market) seems like XEM is just another pie in the sky.

Nobody seems to care about it, that's for damn sure. No hype, no enthusiasm, nothing.
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May 22, 2018, 04:33:38 PM
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May 22, 2018, 05:17:54 PM
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Can you name any project that moved from ETH to NEM?

There are some. One of those is Tutellus which moved from Eth to NEM early this year. Here is a medium blog article where they state reasons for the move https://medium.com/tutellus-io/nem-vs-ethereum-why-do-we-migrate-of-blockchain-in-tutellus-2e823526fb19

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May 22, 2018, 05:20:36 PM
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AND BANKERA WILL BE MOVED FROM ETH TO NEM Grin Grin Grin Grin

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