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June 16, 2015, 07:38:38 AM |
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I am HUGELY in favor of OpenBazaar .. but I'm not entirely sure how it will attract mainstream users to compete with eBay and Amazon. Mainstream users still use paypal and CC. OpenBazaar will no doubt give darknet markets pause for concern, but I don't see mainstream users flocking to it, unfortunately. I hope I am WRONG
Bitmit was a bitcoin based ebay and it had a lot of users. There is definitely a need. Others pop up here and there but without everyone rallying around one service it does not have the seller and customer base needed to take off.
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First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin.
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TinEye
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June 16, 2015, 07:42:56 AM |
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if they continue to rely on a arbiters you can't really call it true decentralization, right? why they cannot simply use an automatic services for escrow, a bot that is designed to do it instead of an human? how can someone be si sure that the arbiter will not run with money one day, after building trust? i don't like this third party system at all
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turvarya
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June 16, 2015, 08:18:01 AM |
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if they continue to rely on a arbiters you can't really call it true decentralization, right? why they cannot simply use an automatic services for escrow, a bot that is designed to do it instead of an human? how can someone be si sure that the arbiter will not run with money one day, after building trust? i don't like this third party system at all
How is a bot supposed to check, if a item arrived at the right place or if the quality is right? There are things, that bots, just can't do. Also, the arbiter can not run with the money. Have you ever heard about multisig? Inform your self before posting BS.
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June 16, 2015, 08:42:55 AM |
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if they continue to rely on a arbiters you can't really call it true decentralization, right? why they cannot simply use an automatic services for escrow, a bot that is designed to do it instead of an human? how can someone be si sure that the arbiter will not run with money one day, after building trust? i don't like this third party system at all
How is a bot supposed to check, if a item arrived at the right place or if the quality is right? There are things, that bots, just can't do. Also, the arbiter can not run with the money. Have you ever heard about multisig? Inform your self before posting BS. what if the arbiter is a crazy scammer and is a friend of the senders of the item, and he don't want to give you back the second key you need to retrieve your money back? basically he will not be able to steal anything but, you will lose your money anyway and the senders of the item will lose nothing yes there is no reason to do that but it can happen, if you deal with crazy guys
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turvarya
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June 16, 2015, 10:17:37 AM |
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if they continue to rely on a arbiters you can't really call it true decentralization, right? why they cannot simply use an automatic services for escrow, a bot that is designed to do it instead of an human? how can someone be si sure that the arbiter will not run with money one day, after building trust? i don't like this third party system at all
How is a bot supposed to check, if a item arrived at the right place or if the quality is right? There are things, that bots, just can't do. Also, the arbiter can not run with the money. Have you ever heard about multisig? Inform your self before posting BS. what if the arbiter is a crazy scammer and is a friend of the senders of the item, and he don't want to give you back the second key you need to retrieve your money back? basically he will not be able to steal anything but, you will lose your money anyway and the senders of the item will lose nothing yes there is no reason to do that but it can happen, if you deal with crazy guys An arbiter would destroy his whole reputation with that. For what? because he is crazy? Sorry, but that is a pretty stupid reason. And there is a difference between: it could happen and it will happen a lot. If you deal in the real world, there is always a risk, like being hit by an lightning bolt. The question is not: Is it a complete perfect system, where nothing can go wrong? The question is: Is it better, than a real existing alternative?
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sidhujag
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June 16, 2015, 01:43:50 PM |
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They went the qualitative approach with escrow and disputes.. Ofcourse you can have locked escrow on either side or something like Peter todds nLockTime improvement which is better.. The onchain escrow implementations will be sufficient and trustless.
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June 16, 2015, 01:54:25 PM |
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Humans seem to surrender a large chunk of their IQ when it comes to retail. It needs to be the dumbest and simplest crypto-related app of them all to really go places. Millions of eyes will glaze over at the first mention of escrows and standalone clients.
I'm sure it'll fill a great niche for those who are committed enough. Ebay or Amazon sure as shit won't be bricking themselves if it stays in its current form. I'm sure it'll inspire some interesting developments in the future.
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newflesh
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June 16, 2015, 03:09:49 PM |
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I am HUGELY in favor of OpenBazaar .. but I'm not entirely sure how it will attract mainstream users to compete with eBay and Amazon. Mainstream users still use paypal and CC. OpenBazaar will no doubt give darknet markets pause for concern, but I don't see mainstream users flocking to it, unfortunately. I hope I am WRONG
Bitmit was a bitcoin based ebay and it had a lot of users. There is definitely a need. Others pop up here and there but without everyone rallying around one service it does not have the seller and customer base needed to take off. Yeah I liked using Bitmit back in the day, never did find out why they decided to shut down. Cryptothrift isn't a bad alternative, I've used them a lot recently but you're right they haven't got nowhere near as many buyers/sellers and as far as I can see.
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June 16, 2015, 03:51:54 PM |
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I have for months my store there 'Pc Game Shop' for fun and i sell my pc games that i have no time to play them I have done 5 or 6 attempts the past months to buy something without any luck. It seems that my orders never goes to the sellers. Today i have order again ledger wallet from their shop but until now i didnt have any responce from them
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manselr
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June 16, 2015, 04:05:17 PM |
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I think in the future the concept of escrow will be yet another work that gets replaced by technology, when decentralized trustless systems are perfected there will be no need for escrows anymore.
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June 16, 2015, 04:31:35 PM |
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I'm ready to start using OpenBazaar .. where can i download the client?
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Argwai96
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June 16, 2015, 06:04:38 PM |
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Im trying to find the article where they secure funding for core development, if anyone please has a link to the press release I'll be great full.
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knowhow
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June 16, 2015, 09:09:19 PM |
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well they made the first step they wanna introduce bitcoin to others... allow all to buy and sell,soo with a support we will see bazaar rocking on the next years...people already buying and selling some things for bitcoin soo this will maximize the buy and sell offers and focus all at one place
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Bitcoininspace
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June 16, 2015, 09:20:56 PM |
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I wonder if they know at all when this is gonna be up and running approximately?
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shogdite
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June 16, 2015, 09:24:37 PM |
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I wonder if they know at all when this is gonna be up and running approximately?
It's not. It was all a dream!
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June 17, 2015, 02:11:39 AM |
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I'm ready to start using OpenBazaar .. where can i download the client?
You can use https://provistor.com/ to use OpenBazaar without having to install anything.
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Argwai96
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June 17, 2015, 04:44:37 AM |
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Great thanks, I couldnt find the one on coindesk, i have a few friends that don't believe on decentralize technology's has proper tech to raise investment capital since mostly are opensource.
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June 17, 2015, 04:58:16 AM |
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I'm ready to start using OpenBazaar .. where can i download the client?
You can use https://provistor.com/ to use OpenBazaar without having to install anything. wow really? Im guessing thats just to test or wont work so good if you wish to sell? here was me waiting for the user friendly version
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