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[masternode]

What would you like to know, everything?  My request for transparency is exactly the same request as yours.  I think at this point it's important for Drak to let us know on record what's been happening.  The last he told me back in December (and probably the biggest event that was supposedly happening behind the scenes) was that Patrick Byrne reached out to him about getting involved in the Medici project.  Not only am I suspecting that isn't happening at this point, but now I'm beginning to wonder if that was ever really going to happen.  I think it's best for Drak to disclose everything to the community now, don't you?

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[Cryptock]

This starts to look like cloakcoin  

[sureman_otter]

looking rekt.. 

[tokeweed]

I wonder what Peter Todd has to say with all this...  I speculate that he'll be leaving VIA as Chief Scientist sooner or later.

[barabbas]

What would you like to know, everything?  My request for transparency is exactly the same request as yours.  I think at this point it's important for Drak to let us know on record what's been happening.  The last he told me back in December (and probably the biggest event that was supposedly happening behind the scenes) was that Patrick Byrne reached out to him about getting involved in the Medici project.  Not only am I suspecting that isn't happening at this point, but now I'm beginning to wonder if that was ever really going to happen.  I think it's best for Drak to disclose everything to the community now, don't you?

First of all, I understand very well your frustration, it's very understandable.

Second, I imagine it is you who is behind this sudden dumping 50k at a time. I also understand that... although it means the price is goind to sink into oblivion if you and your group are getting out. This is not FUD as the usual suspects will immediately cry, just look at recent sales and the book and you will see there's a significant dumping going on -and reflected in the price- 50k VIA at a time. We are talking some MAJOR dumping.

Third, this is not new. For sure you were fully aware of Drak's "peculiarities" when you were "in the know" or so you were led to believe. I find it very, VERY despicable that situation/attitude. And, at the same time, logical. This has been carried out, since the beginning, in a way that is laughable from any perspective, with drak being allowed to do as he pleased on every single aspect of the project, ZERO transparency, ZERO control on the part of the community and ZERO co-operation (with the community) on the part of the biggest investors. Like you. The community should turn its back on you now. And continue turning its back on Drak and his OUTRAGEOUS ways. Sorry guys but this looks very much like the beginning of the inevitable end that has been anticipated for months now. Who needs this kind of unacceptable BS, really. In case you did not know, you have been taken for a ride. You have been hidden any and all information while "deals" of some kind or another were done while all those "many things were happening in the background". There's no way, none whatsoever, to come out of this in any positive way.

I tried to help. I tried to put some common sense in this project in which I have made the grave mistake to invest a substantial amount. It is obviously very late to salvage even a small part of it, this is going to be quite bloody. Because it is obvious that we are dealing here with just a crypto nerd with a monumental Napoleon complex that has as much chance of being successful in any project as Sarah Palin trying to win the White House.

Transparency, is crying now "masternode" ... Ironic. What exactly do you expect? Laughable, really... welcome to this side of the pathetic charade. In your case, very deservedly after you were an active accomplice on the other side. Too late now for transparency or whatever iteration of it would be sanctioned by Napoleon. Action, not just lame transparency -unreal otherwise- would have been required. On many fronts.

What you'll get is a bad attitude, the usual disdain and more probably than not, censorship galore. Oh, and BIPP66 thingy. Pathetic, really.

[barabbas]

I wonder what Peter Todd has to say with all this...  I speculate that he'll be leaving VIA as Chief Scientist sooner or later.

Where is my BTC?

As long as he receives it, if he hasn't received the full agreed upon amount, he will continue doing nothing and pocketing it.

His involvement with VIA is, and always has been, a vanity exercise, you know...

[masternode]

What would you like to know, everything?  My request for transparency is exactly the same request as yours.  I think at this point it's important for Drak to let us know on record what's been happening.  The last he told me back in December (and probably the biggest event that was supposedly happening behind the scenes) was that Patrick Byrne reached out to him about getting involved in the Medici project.  Not only am I suspecting that isn't happening at this point, but now I'm beginning to wonder if that was ever really going to happen.  I think it's best for Drak to disclose everything to the community now, don't you?

First of all, I understand very well your frustration, it's very understandable.

Second, I imagine it is you who is behind this sudden dumping 50k at a time. I also understand that... although it means the price is goind to sink into oblivion if you and your group are getting out. This is not FUD as the usual suspects will immediately cry, just look at recent sales and the book and you will see there's a significant dumping going on -and reflected in the price- 50k VIA at a time. We are talking some MAJOR dumping.

Third, this is not new. For sure you were fully aware of Drak's "peculiarities" when you were "in the know" or so you were led to believe. I find it very, VERY despicable that situation/attitude. And, at the same time, logical. This has been carried out, since the beginning, in a way that is laughable from any perspective, with drak being allowed to do as he pleased on every single aspect of the project, ZERO transparency, ZERO control on the part of the community and ZERO co-operation (with the community) on the part of the biggest investors. Like you. The community should turn its back on you now. And continue turning its back on Drak and his OUTRAGEOUS ways. Sorry guys but this looks very much like the beginning of the inevitable end that has been anticipated for months now. Who needs this kind of unacceptable BS, really. In case you did not know, you have been taken for a ride. You have been hidden any and all information while "deals" of some kind or another were done while all those "many things were happening in the background". There's no way, none whatsoever, to come out of this in any positive way.

I tried to help. I tried to put some common sense in this project in which I have made the grave mistake to invest a substantial amount. It is obviously very late to salvage even a small part of it, this is going to be quite bloody. Because it is obvious that we are dealing here with just a crypto nerd with a monumental Napoleon complex that has as much chance of being successful in any project as Sarah Palin trying to win the White House.

Transparency, is crying now "masternode" ... Ironic. What exactly do you expect? Laughable, really... welcome to this side of the pathetic charade. In your case, very deservedly after you were an active accomplice on the other side. Too late now for transparency or whatever iteration of it would be sanctioned by Napoleon. Action, not just lame transparency -unreal otherwise- would have been required. On many fronts.

What you'll get is a bad attitude, the usual disdain and more probably than not, censorship galore. Oh, and BIPP66 thingy. Pathetic, really.

Fwiw, we are not responsible for the dumps.  We still continue to hold the coin, we have just written it off.  At this point I think its best to get a fair assessment of where the project is at before anyone tries to make suggestions on how to move forward. 

[masternode]

I understand a lot of people are frustrated.  I just think its best to gather all the info first.  These situations can often have a reasonable ending.

[tokeweed]

I understand a lot of people are frustrated.  I just think its best to gather all the info first.  These situations can often have a reasonable ending.

... and lighter pockets.    Kidding..

[barabbas]

I understand a lot of people are frustrated.  I just think its best to gather all the info first.  These situations can often have a reasonable ending.

 We;ll there are not many people that can dump 50k VIA at a time, in several -more than 3- instances, so you tell me. Apparently some quite heavy weights have had enough already of this crap.

Or it is Drak himself...

On the other hand, exactly what kind of information you expect to gather from Drak? Where is the money? He can tell you anything from the truth to the opposite and anything in between and you would not have any way to know what you are being told. But let me venture something: There's no money left. Let's hope I am totally wrong, ok? We'll soon find out that's for sure.

[fox19891989]

Otoh and I have basically written off our investments in VIA and XCH (between the syndicate of investors I work with it is around 3M VIA).  A lot has been mishandled behind the scenes.  At this point, I'd like to see some transparency as to how the original funds have been used and how much of the original funds remain.  I've been very close with the projects since it's inception.  It's probably best to just disclose everything so the community knows where things stand moving forward.  

I think the window of opportunity VIA ever had has been missed, mostly due to Btcdraks inability to create any sort of meaningful adoption of VIA.  

I'll be putting a more official post together soon, but in the meantime feel free to ask any questions.

-masternode

You are right, his inability, I recommend many advice and many times here, one is anon tech for via, second is email to altcoin casinos like fortunejack and justdice to accept via. But still no answer. Via's a joke. He is only know coding, but doesn't know marketing, this is very disappointed. 

Yeah, that's why Apple(good at design and marketing) is the biggest company, but not Microsoft or Nokia(with best technology) now.

[tokeweed]

Otoh and I have basically written off our investments in VIA and XCH (between the syndicate of investors I work with it is around 3M VIA).  A lot has been mishandled behind the scenes.  At this point, I'd like to see some transparency as to how the original funds have been used and how much of the original funds remain.  I've been very close with the projects since it's inception.  It's probably best to just disclose everything so the community knows where things stand moving forward.  

I think the window of opportunity VIA ever had has been missed, mostly due to Btcdraks inability to create any sort of meaningful adoption of VIA.  

I'll be putting a more official post together soon, but in the meantime feel free to ask any questions.

-masternode

You are right, his inability, I recommend many advice and many times here, one is anon tech for via, second is email to altcoin casinos like fortunejack and justdice to accept via. But still no answer. Via's a joke. He is only know coding, but doesn't know marketing, this is very disappointed. 

Yeah, that's why Apple(good at design and marketing) is the biggest company, but not Microsoft or Nokia(with best technology) now.

Think of it this way...  If Steve Jobs himself was dumping Apple stocks on the market, would that give shareholders confidence in holding their Apple shares?

If Drak really is dumping VIA, then that is not good overall.  Some would even argue that this whole project is an instrument for a pump and dump.

[derrend]

If Steve Jobs himself was dumping Apple stocks on the market, would that give shareholders confidence in holding their Apple shares?

He did, and it didn't.

[tokeweed]

If Steve Jobs himself was dumping Apple stocks on the market, would that give shareholders confidence in holding their Apple shares?

He did, and it didn't.

Oh yeah... He did when he left Apple. Then look what happened, the stock went down.  In VIA 's case, price is falling regardless of who is dumping. 

I really hope this project turns around though. 

[karmala]

... not happy...

[jtalk]

If Steve Jobs himself was dumping Apple stocks on the market, would that give shareholders confidence in holding their Apple shares?

He did, and it didn't.

Oh yeah... He did when he left Apple. Then look what happened, the stock went down.  In VIA 's case, price is falling regardless of who is dumping. 

I really hope this project turns around though. 

A couple of months ago price was over 10k and all was seeming good but after continuous dumping VIA is in struggling and struggling.

[Majormax]

If Steve Jobs himself was dumping Apple stocks on the market, would that give shareholders confidence in holding their Apple shares?

He did, and it didn't.

Oh yeah... He did when he left Apple. Then look what happened, the stock went down.  In VIA 's case, price is falling regardless of who is dumping.  

I really hope this project turns around though.  

When threads turn into price discussions, it is usually the death of a coin. Price of VIA will fall until a big promoter picks it up for peanuts. I would buy more, but only at around 1/10 of todays price. At 500sat a big quantity would be a good punt.

[jokumat]

The bittrex bot is buying now, by the way...what a change

[cassius69]

The bittrex bot is buying now, by the way...what a change

go bot go. mebbe it can buy it back up to 60000 sats. 

[cassius69]

this thread is a lot more active since the dev left.