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Author Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)  (Read 262921 times)
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August 30, 2014, 10:28:12 PM
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Wonder if they asked to be removed... INcreases their risk of being hacked.
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August 30, 2014, 10:41:36 PM
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buckrogers had 2913mh/s dunno why i remember that...so did he sell 200mh/s?

If I had thousands I think I'd be selling like crazy. Easy cash if you bought at $16. Will be fun to watch when/if the marketplace is implemented.
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August 30, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
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You guys make me laugh. Critical of an obvious hustle but so willing to take a profit …


Y'all get what is coming to you.

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August 30, 2014, 11:26:59 PM
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    I may be piping down a bit on the forums as its very clear now that there are a lot of people who have a far more vested interest than I do.

I don't think you should "pipe down"! Everyone is valuable to this community, no matter how big or small their hash rate. Besides, 100 MH is nothing to down play! I hope to continue seeing you active around here.
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August 31, 2014, 12:20:29 AM
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The hashlets are probably backed by the vaultbreakers assuming they are real.


Do you have any IT, programming, hardware knowledge/experience at all? Have you run hardware miners yourself? Have you built/repaired pcs/laptops from scratch? Did you read my entire post? There is plenty of gaw hardware in the wild, again, I am running 2 at the moment while sorting out an rma issue on the third. Considering the money they likely made on their first generation of mining hardware I find it difficult to dismiss the vaultbreaker as a phantom. I also find it curious that they only offered 2 batches of vaultbreakers. Its likely that the whole "prime" thing evolved sometime during the design of the vaultbreakers as a way to take things to a new level.


I am amazed how GAW managed to brainwash you.  With all those experiences, your conclusion is that 750MH vaultbreaker is real??  
" There is plenty of gaw hardware in the wild"  No, there is none! Those GAW branded miners are all ZEUS. GAW cannot even make a single miner, not to mention ASIC chips.

I don't care how many PCs you have repaired, nor how many miners have GAW sold, making an ASIC chip (way better than any of those existing miners even the 28nm A2 chips) is not easy.
As I said earlier, it is difficult, expensive and time consuming.  
where can they actually make the chip?    20nm TSMC?  14nm SAMSUNG?  or GLOBALFOUNDRIES?  They all have different issues, especially low capacity.

You already noticed GAW don't want to talk about the vaultbreaker any more.  Why?

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August 31, 2014, 01:04:59 AM
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The hashlets are probably backed by the vaultbreakers assuming they are real.


Do you have any IT, programming, hardware knowledge/experience at all? Have you run hardware miners yourself? Have you built/repaired pcs/laptops from scratch? Did you read my entire post? There is plenty of gaw hardware in the wild, again, I am running 2 at the moment while sorting out an rma issue on the third. Considering the money they likely made on their first generation of mining hardware I find it difficult to dismiss the vaultbreaker as a phantom. I also find it curious that they only offered 2 batches of vaultbreakers. Its likely that the whole "prime" thing evolved sometime during the design of the vaultbreakers as a way to take things to a new level.


I am amazed how GAW managed to brainwash you.  With all those experiences, your conclusion is that 750MH vaultbreaker is real??  
" There is plenty of gaw hardware in the wild"  No, there is none! Those GAW branded miners are all ZEUS. GAW cannot even make a single miner, not to mention ASIC chips.

I don't care how many PCs you have repaired, nor how many miners have GAW sold, making an ASIC chip (way better than any of those existing miners even the 28nm A2 chips) is not easy.
As I said earlier, it is difficult, expensive and time consuming.  
where can they actually make the chip?    20nm TSMC?  14nm SAMSUNG?  or GLOBALFOUNDRIES?  They all have different issues, especially low capacity.

You already noticed GAW don't want to talk about the vaultbreaker any more.  Why?



s1gs3gv is this you???

After the thousands of words I have posted on this subject you honestly think I am brainwashed? Its clear you have no clue just how many design and fabrication houses there are worldwide. You obviously also have no clue about this subject
Do I need to do your homework for you and find a list of chip design firms?

Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_integrated_circuit_manufacturers

http://electroiq.com/blog/2012/04/top-25-fabless-ic-companies-in-2011/

http://www.boogar.com/resources/electronics/fabless_manufacturing.htm

It is indeed expensive and involved to design and produce a chip, but for crypto and to make a tidy profit you don't have to be producing as many chips as intel/ibm/samsung/etc.
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August 31, 2014, 02:13:44 AM
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s1gs3gv is this you???

You've really lost it mate. No it isn't. This is me. That is somebody else. I was feeling a little bad about calling you a dumb fuck but I feel ok with it now. Seriously, you think the VB is real ? Next thing we know, you'll be telling me the hashlets are real too.

The only thing real about this operation is the gullibility, naivety and ethically challenged character of its customers.

I mean, its just hilarious that you seek to establish your cred by talking about your experience building PCs and running a couple of Zeus miners.
I just can't stop laughing, seriously. You are on ignore.

Indeed ...

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August 31, 2014, 02:31:39 AM
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Yes gaw... that's the way to run a successful business....

When people complain... throw money at them...


Do they think by giving out free stuff that more and more people will be like "Shit... maybe i should buy in so i get free shit too!"

Because i'm looking at it as if i invested in this company... i'd be very skeptical about them giving out more stuff that should be going towards my ROI..


[Disclaimer] i didn't invest in this scam.

Why are you being so negative towards GAW? I did not hear anything of them scamming anyone yet. Maybe it is time for you to test them out?
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August 31, 2014, 03:24:57 AM
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Yes gaw... that's the way to run a successful business....

When people complain... throw money at them...


Do they think by giving out free stuff that more and more people will be like "Shit... maybe i should buy in so i get free shit too!"

Because i'm looking at it as if i invested in this company... i'd be very skeptical about them giving out more stuff that should be going towards my ROI..


[Disclaimer] i didn't invest in this scam.

Why are you being so negative towards GAW? I did not hear anything of them scamming anyone yet. Maybe it is time for you to test them out?

Because there are unanswered questions and the answers we have gotten just don't add up. There was something else, what was it? Oh right, We can think for ourselves and ask questions when something doesn't seem right.
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August 31, 2014, 03:29:29 AM
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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/
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August 31, 2014, 03:42:20 AM
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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/

Well thank you so much. I knew about the contest but never felt compelled to look into it. Now you forced me to Angry
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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/

Well thank you so much. I knew about the contest but never felt compelled to look into it. Now you forced me to Angry

Glad I could share the pain. I have also been doing some research into gaw, their wireless isp has quite a lot of pissed off customers. From what I have gathered they were more focused on growing their footprint than taking care of customers. I also found a press release from when gaw bought into zen pay attention to the last sentence.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/geniuses-corp-acquires-controlling-equity-110334473.html
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Eric Capuano, ZenMiner's former President, has been appointed General Manager of GAW Corp's new ZenMiner division. "We're thrilled to have GAW's resources backing ZenMiner", said Capuano. "GAW's can pump far more resources into ZenMiner's R&D than we could ever dream of alone. With their support, we can add game-changing features like hardware trading, instant activation, and cutting-edge pools to our customers even faster."

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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/

Well thank you so much. I knew about the contest but never felt compelled to look into it. Now you forced me to Angry

Glad I could share the pain. I have also been doing some research into gaw, their wireless isp has quite a lot of pissed off customers. From what I have gathered they were more focused on growing their footprint than taking care of customers. I also found a press release from when gaw bought into zen pay attention to the last sentence.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/geniuses-corp-acquires-controlling-equity-110334473.html
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Eric Capuano, ZenMiner's former President, has been appointed General Manager of GAW Corp's new ZenMiner division. "We're thrilled to have GAW's resources backing ZenMiner", said Capuano. "GAW's can pump far more resources into ZenMiner's R&D than we could ever dream of alone. With their support, we can add game-changing features like hardware trading, instant activation, and cutting-edge pools to our customers even faster."



https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=45462392&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=-smF&locale=en_US&srchid=794942081409461374515&srchindex=1&srchtotal=5&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A794942081409461374515%2CVSRPtargetId%3A45462392%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

So much for Eric...and ZenMiner... Grin

you do the rest...of thinking...if you can... Wink

ZiG

EDIT...:   ...Are you, people, so naive to still believe in "Santa..." ...or "Hashlet(s)"... Huh
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August 31, 2014, 05:17:49 AM
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[very long link]

So much for Eric...and ZenMiner... Grin


Can you elaborate? Your link requires login.

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August 31, 2014, 05:25:36 AM
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I'm posting Zenminer and GAW T&Cs here as a "historic" reference. They are known to change them without notice and not to the customers' benefit so I'll try to keep at least some kind of a history.

Zenminer https://zenminer.com/cloud/terms.html

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Terms of Service
In using this website you are deemed to have read, understood, and agreed to the following terms and conditions. You must read these terms and conditions and acknowledge that you have read and understood them before clicking on the Accept button:

1. Introduction. We provide Users with, among other things, the Services (defined below) directly and through the website and associated domains of http://www.gawminers.com and/or http:// www.zenminer.com (“Site”). This Terms of Service Agreement (“Agreement”) is an agreement between you (“User”) and us (“Company”). This Agreement is the entire Agreement between us. For good and valuable consideration, including the receipt of Services from the Company, use of Services and use of the Site, you are agreeing to comply with these terms, our Privacy Policy and any other legal notices, conditions, or guidelines posted on the Site.

2. Terminology. The following terminology applies to this Agreement: “Company,” “We,” and "Us" refers to GAW Miners LLC, a Delaware limited liability company having an address at 34 E. Dudley Town Rd., Bloomfield, CT 06002. “Hashlet” means digital, virtual mining, which may take place on a cloud-based network. “Materials” refers to, among other things, hardware, software, Hashlets, communications, networks, platforms, servers, informational text, software documentation, design of and "look and feel," layout, photographs, graphics, audio, video, messages, interactive and instant messaging, design and functions, files, documents, images, or other materials, with the exception of User Property, whether publicly or privately maintained, as well as all derivative works thereof. “Party” or “Parties” refers to either or both the User and the Company. Any use of the above terminology or other words in the singular, plural, or capitalized, and/or he, she or they, are taken as interchangeable and therefore as referring to same. “Payout” means calculated earnings based on associated and/or selected Pools. “Portal” means a web-based interface for users to control Hashlets, control settings and other configurations, and request Payouts. “Pool” means a currency mining pool. “Services” refers to, among other things, hardware, software, and hosting services for mining operations, including activities involving mining for, and other transactions related to, Bitcoins and other currency. We also provide Users with access to certain Information to assist Users in these activities. Such information is included in “Services.” "User", “You” and “Your” refers to you, the person accessing this website and accepting the Company’s terms and conditions. “User Property” includes any hardware that User has purchased from Company or a third party, and has paid for in full.

3. Purchase of Materials and Use of Services You may purchase Materials from Company. Company may also provide Services, such as hosting services, to You. You acknowledge and agree that while you are using Company’s Services, Company is free to provide the Materials and Services virtually. During the provision of these virtual Services, Company is under no obligation to provide, acquire, or possess Materials dedicated to You by virtue of Your purchase of such Materials. Rather, Company, in its sole judgment and discretion, shall determine when to acquire Materials (such as hardware) corresponding to Your purchase. If you are purchasing, or have purchased, Hashlets, you understand and agree that Hashlets are not physical devices and cannot be shipped.

If you have purchased legacy materials, such as hardware, and if you terminate the Agreement, or if you make a written request to Company, then Company will provide you with your purchased Materials according to the following procedure. Within 21 days of termination or Company’s receipt of Your written request, Company will either possess, or will initiate steps to acquire, the Materials you purchased. Initiating acquisition of such Materials may include, for example, ordering such Materials from a third party supplier. You understand that Company has no direct control over the fulfillment process of any such third parties and therefore makes no guarantees as to the time it will take to acquire the Materials. Once Company either possesses such Materials, or acquires such Materials from such third parties, then, within 21 days, Company will initiate shipment of such Materials to You. Company makes no guarantees or representations regarding the timing or method of shipment of such Materials. You understand that Hashlets are virtual service units related to mining services, but are not mining hardware. Hashlets earnings depend on the pool chosen and Payouts reflect respective Pool Payouts. Selecting a Pool does not imply physically or electronically mining at the selected Pool. Rather, selecting a Pool determines a Payout corresponding to a calculation based on the selected Pool’s payout (based on, for example, real-time Megahash/second/day calculations). A Hashlet is virtual software. You will receive Payouts according to the Pool with with the Hashlet is associated. You expressly understand the the Company’s sole obligation to You is to Provide a Payout based on the Pool you choose. It may take 24-48 hours for your Hashlet to appear on Your Portal. Company reserves the right to refund You, and terminate services, at any time and for any reason. All sales are final. Pricing of Materials and Services is subject to change, at Company’s sole discretion, at any time, including after you have purchased Materials and/or Services (including Hashlets). Adding an item (such as a Hashelt) to a “cart” does not “lock in” a price. Maintenance fees may be adjusted up or down by the Company at any time and for any reason. Your Portal may not always be available.

Company may offer Pool-specific Hashlets. With Pool-specific Hashlets, Payouts are based on the specific Pool for which the Hashlet was purchased and Payouts are not based on any other pools. Company may also offer trading services. With such trading services, Hashlets may be traded. Company reserves the right to charge a fee for any such trading activities, which Company will determine in its sole discretion. Company can cancel trades at any time and for any reason. Company can also reverse trades at any time and for any reason. The actual selling or trading price for an item being traded may change prior to the trade taking effect and/or prior to the item being sold.

4. Ownership of Materials, Information and Services. All Materials and Services available on the Site or otherwise provided by or through Company, its affiliates, subsidiaries, employees, agents, licensors or other commercial partners, are owned by us or other parties that have licensed their material or provided services to us, and are protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret and other intellectual property laws. This Agreement shall not be deemed to transfer any ownership, right, title, and/or interest in or to such Materials or Services.

5. Trademarks. All Company trademarks and service marks, logos, slogans and taglines are the property of Company. All other trademarks, service marks, logos, slogans and taglines are the property of their respective owners. Except as otherwise specifically provided herein, nothing should be construed as granting any license or right to use any trademarks, service marks, logos, slogans or taglines displayed on the Site without our express written permission, or the express written permission of such third- party that may own the trademark, service mark, logo, slogan or tagline.

6. Rights to Use Materials. Subject to this Agreement, Company hereby grants you a limited, revocable, non-transferable and non-exclusive license to use the Materials and Services. This license does not permit you, and you agree not to: store, copy, reproduce, republish, modify, upload, post, translate, scrape, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute, transfer, transmit, display, decompile, reverse engineer, reverse assemble, decipher or otherwise attempt to discover any programming code or any source code used in or with the Materials or Services, or otherwise distribute in any way the Materials or Services other than as specifically permitted in this Agreement. You may not sell, assign, sublicense, grant a security interest in or otherwise attempt to transfer any right in the Materials or Services, create derivative works based on or in any manner commercially exploit the Materials Services, in whole or in part, other than as expressly permitted in this Agreement. Any use of the Materials or Services for any purpose other than as specifically permitted herein or without our prior consent or the prior written consent of our licensors, as applicable, is expressly prohibited. We reserve all rights not expressly granted in this Agreement.

You agree to fully and accurately provide the information requested by us when setting up your accounts and to regularly update such information. Your failure to do so may result in the cancellation of your account and loss of Services. You further agree (a) not to provide your user information to others.

7. Comments and Feedback. Any questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, feedback, or other information provided by you to us (“Comments”) are not confidential and you hereby grant us a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free license to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, publish, modify, edit or otherwise use such Comments as we deem appropriate, for any and all commercial and/or non-commercial purposes, in our sole discretion.

8. Rules. You agree to the following:

a. You hereby certify that you are at least 18 years of age.

b. You will ensure any user information or account information you provide is valid and accurate

at all times and will keep any such information updated.

c. You will not use the Services or Materials for any unlawful purposes or to conduct any unlawful activity, including, but not limited to, fraud, embezzlement, money laundering or insider trading.

d. You will not use the Services or Materials if you are located in a country embargoed by the U.S., or are on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals.

e. You will not use the Services or Materials to impersonate another person.

f. You will not imply or state, directly or indirectly, that you are affiliated with or endorsed by Company without our express written permission.

g. You may not send unsolicited messages (also known as junk mail or SPAM) to promote any website published on the Site.

h. You may not upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available or initiate any software, content, or other material that contains software viruses, worms, Trojan horses or any other computer code, files or programs that interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of the Services or the Materials or that may impact the ability of Company to provide the Services or any other users to access and use the Services.

i. You may not send messages using the Services which do not correctly identify the sender and you may not alter the attribution of origin in electronic mail messages or postings.

j. You will not share your user or account information, let anyone else access your account, or do anything that might jeopardize the security of your account. You will not attempt to or actually access the Services or Materials by any means other than through the interfaces, hardware, and software, provided by Company.

k. You will not attempt to or actually override any security component included in or underlying the Materials or Services.

l. You will not attempt or engage in any action that directly or indirectly interferes with the proper working of or places an unreasonable load on Company’s infrastructure.

o. You will not engage in any activity, using the Materials or Services, that would by any reasonable standards be considered pornographic, sexually explicit, violent, illegal, reasonably likely to cause harm, slanderous or libelous, or reasonably likely to breach another’s privacy.

p. Company may determine in its sole discretion whether or not an account is in violation of any of these policies. Violation of any of these policies may result in user information tracking with such information being stored to identify the offending user. Offending users may be permanently restricted from holding an account or using the Services. If Company reasonably determines that your account is being used for illegal or fraudulent activity then your account may be immediately terminated and your financial data erased. We may also report you to law enforcement officials in the appropriate jurisdictions.

9. Fees. If you purchase any Services that we offer for a fee, you agree to Company, or our third party service providers, storing your payment card information. You expressly agree that we are authorized to charge you (i) periodic fees for any applicable Services billed on a periodic basis, (ii) any other fees for Services you may purchase, and (iii) any applicable taxes in connection with your use of the Services to the payment card you provide and to reimburse us for all collection costs and interest for any overdue amounts. If the payment card you provide expires and you do not provide new payment card information or cancel your account, you authorize us to continue billing you and you agree to remain responsible for any uncollected fees. Only Services and features clearly indicated as "free" or "no charge" are free or without charge. It is not the responsibility of Company to provide free support for you in the use and operation of the Materials and Services.

10. Taxes. You take full responsibility for all taxes and fees of any nature associated with Services, including any sales tax related to the receipt of currency or profits otherwise realized from transactions involving the Services. Company shall not be liable for any taxes or other fees to be paid in accordance with or related to the Services. It is your responsibility to determine whether or not taxes apply to a transaction and to collect, report, and remit the correct amounts to the appropriate authority.

11. Termination and Modifications. a. Services may be terminated by us, without cause, at any time. b. Services may be terminated by you, without cause, after the end of the applicable service period for which you are enrolled, and only after you have paid any of your account balances and any other amounts owed by you to Company. c. Company may terminate Services at any time, without penalty and without notice, if you fail to comply with any of the terms of this Agreement or the intellectual property protections applicable to these Services. d. Notice of termination of Services by Company may be sent to the contact e-mail associated with your account or by any other means reasonably calculated to reach you. Upon termination, Company has the right to delete all data, files, or other information that is stored in your account. e. We may modify, replace, refuse access to, suspend or discontinue the Services, partially or entirely, or add, change and modify prices for all or part of the Services for you or for any or all of our users at any time and in our sole discretion. All of these changes shall be effective upon their posting on the Site or by direct communication to you unless otherwise noted. f. We may modify, suspend, or discontinue any payments, fee structures, tariffs or any other financial structures relating to the Materials and/or Services at any time and in our sole discretion. These changes shall be effective upon their posting on the Site or by direct communication to you unless otherwise noted. g. All sales of Materials or Services are final. No returns for refund are permitted.

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Same-day shipping is eligible for orders placed before 4 pm Eastern time! Orders placed after 4pm will ship the next business day.

 

There are no returns for hosted products. All sales for ZenCloud enabled products are final. GAW Miners will not issue refunds due to the nature and purpose of the ZenCloud enabled products.

 

24-HOUR ACTIVATION GUARANTEE PROMOTION DETAILS

You will receive an activation code within 24 hours of your order which you will need to use to create your account by visiting https://cloud.zenminer.com. If you have not received your activation code within 24 hours, you may file a claim at https://gawminers.freshdesk.com/helpdesk to receive your activation code and a receive full refund for the ZenCloud miner(s) purchased from the gawminers.com website you are filing the claim for. If we have sent out your activation code within the 24-hour period from the time of your order and you have not redeemed it by creating an account on https://cloud.zenminer.com, you are not eligible for the promotional refund. The promotion is only valid for customers who have not been sent an activation code within the 24-hour period.

 

The Hashlet product(s) does not qualify for the 24-hour activation guarantee promotion.

 

Your claim will be denied in the event that ZenMiner has sent an activation code but you were not able to receive it or retreive it within the 24-hour period for reasons including, but not limited to:

Spam Filters
Incorrect Email Address
Blocked by ISP (Internet Service Provider)
Inaccessbility to your email
Due to our order fraud prevention system, Riskified, if your order is flagged as potentially fraud, your order may be delayed beyond the 24-hour window which will allow GAW Miners to investigate your order.

GAW Miners reserves the right to cancel any orders within the 24-hour period from the time of the order. If GAW Miners decides to cancel your order within the 24-hour period, the promotional 24-hour activation guarantee is void.

After you have filed a claim for a full refund of the ZenCloud miner(s) you purchased, if we find your claim to be valid, you will receive a refund back to the original payment method(s) and will receive an activation code to enable the miner(s) you filed a claim for. If we find your claim to be invalid, we will send you an email providing the reason for the denial of your claim and, if deemed necessary, timestamps of the sent activation code and any other necessary supporting documents.

 

ZENCLOUD POOL PAYOUTS

The ZenCloud mines several different pools with a vast amount of hardware in large logical blocks.  You will will be paid at your chosen pool's payout guaranteed by GAW Miners regardless of pool uptime.  Your individual hashing power may or may not actually be switched to this pool as we use bulk hash power on each pool.

 

REQUESTING YOUR ZENCLOUD MINER TO BE SHIPPED TO YOU

You may request your ZenCloud miner to be shipped to you after at least 30 days from the activation date. Once requested, GAW Miners will de-provision your hosted account and will ship your miner to the address specified within a 14-day period. Please note that GAW Miners Hashlets cannot be shipped because of their datacenter-optimized nature as Digital Cloud Miners.

 

ALL SHIPPED, NON-HOSTED , GAW HOSTED & ZENCLOUD HOSTED ORDERS

All sales are final. GAW Miners does not accept returns and will not issue a refund if item is returned. Any products that are not functioning correctly due to manufacturer defects will be replaced after an RMA is issued and the item is sent back to GAW Miners, inspected and approved. Please refer to the - Replacements and Returns Due to Manufacturer Defects - section below for full instructions on how to begin the RMA process.

 

REPLACEMENTS AND RETURNS DUE TO MANUFACTURER DEFECTS

Only miners malfunctioning due to a factory defect are eligible for replacement or refund through an RMA process. Please contact GAW Miners Customer Service by web at http://gawminers.com/pages/returns-rmas to fill out an RMA form. Once approved, GAW Miners will provide a pre-paid shipping label for orders shipped within the US.
 
GAW Miners customers using a third party service are responsible for any duties, taxes and shipping costs that may occur. GAW Miners is not liable for any damages from any third party shipping services.

 

REFUND TO ORIGINAL PAYMENT METHOD

Refunds will be made back to your original payment method. All payments in Bitcoin (BTC) or other cryptocurrencies will be made back to your account equal to the U.S. Dollar (USD) amount paid at the time of sale regardless of the BTC exchange rate.

 

USE OF PRODUCTS - LIABILITY WAIVER

As always, profitability is never guaranteed and buyer assumes all risks pertaining fire, damage to other property, and/or any other form of equipment malfunction. GAW Miners will not be held responsible for any damages.

 

INTERNATIONAL RETURNS

Please complete a return form provided by our RMA department (email support@gawminers.com to request it). After a GAW Miners representative approves your RMA request, please return the package via your choice of international carrier. Refer to our section on Returns for our full return policy.

Send your item via traceable method to the following address:


GAW Miners Returns

34 E Dudley Town Road

Bloomfield, CT 06002

USA

Exchanges are not offered with international shipments.



DUTIES & TAXES REFUND

If you are returning a purchase you may be eligible for a refund of a portion or all of the duty and taxes. Contact your local customs office for a return of duties and taxes.

 

GAW MINERS ITEMS PURCHASED AT OTHER LOCATIONS

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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/

Well thank you so much. I knew about the contest but never felt compelled to look into it. Now you forced me to Angry

Glad I could share the pain. I have also been doing some research into gaw, their wireless isp has quite a lot of pissed off customers. From what I have gathered they were more focused on growing their footprint than taking care of customers. I also found a press release from when gaw bought into zen pay attention to the last sentence.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/geniuses-corp-acquires-controlling-equity-110334473.html
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Eric Capuano, ZenMiner's former President, has been appointed General Manager of GAW Corp's new ZenMiner division. "We're thrilled to have GAW's resources backing ZenMiner", said Capuano. "GAW's can pump far more resources into ZenMiner's R&D than we could ever dream of alone. With their support, we can add game-changing features like hardware trading, instant activation, and cutting-edge pools to our customers even faster."



https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=45462392&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=-smF&locale=en_US&srchid=794942081409461374515&srchindex=1&srchtotal=5&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A794942081409461374515%2CVSRPtargetId%3A45462392%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

So much for Eric...and ZenMiner... Grin

you do the rest...of thinking...if you can... Wink

ZiG

EDIT...:   ...Are you, people, so naive to still believe in "Santa..." ...or "Hashlet(s)"... Huh

What point are you trying to make? And what people are you referring to?
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Things just got weirder. Not sure how I missed this. http://thehashking.com/

Well thank you so much. I knew about the contest but never felt compelled to look into it. Now you forced me to Angry

Glad I could share the pain. I have also been doing some research into gaw, their wireless isp has quite a lot of pissed off customers. From what I have gathered they were more focused on growing their footprint than taking care of customers. I also found a press release from when gaw bought into zen pay attention to the last sentence.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/geniuses-corp-acquires-controlling-equity-110334473.html
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Eric Capuano, ZenMiner's former President, has been appointed General Manager of GAW Corp's new ZenMiner division. "We're thrilled to have GAW's resources backing ZenMiner", said Capuano. "GAW's can pump far more resources into ZenMiner's R&D than we could ever dream of alone. With their support, we can add game-changing features like hardware trading, instant activation, and cutting-edge pools to our customers even faster."



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So much for Eric...and ZenMiner... Grin

you do the rest...of thinking...if you can... Wink

ZiG

EDIT...:   ...Are you, people, so naive to still believe in "Santa..." ...or "Hashlet(s)"... Huh

What point are you trying to make? And what people are you referring to?

Copy...paste of Eric's LinkedIn profile...

"Eric Capuano

Firewall Engineer at General Dynamics Information Technology

    San Antonio, Texas Area
    Information Technology and Services

Current   

    ZenMiner,
    Texas Air National Guard

Previous   

    GDIT / Softworld Inc.,
    Samsung Austin Semiconductor,
    NSTAR Global Services

Education   

    Western Governors University

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        www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-capuano/13/285/308

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Background
Summary

US Air Force trained supervisor and technician familiar with implementation, operation and sustainment of enterprise level copper/fiber/wireless networks, firewalls, encryption systems, intrusion detection/prevention systems, VPN systems, and virtualization platforms.

Security Clearance details are available upon request.

Certifications: Security+, Linux+, LPIC-1, Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH), Accredited Configuration Engineer (ACE), Certified Network Security Engineer (CNSE)
Experience
Project Manager
ZenMiner
June 2014 – Present (3 months)
Texas Air National Guard
Information Operations
Texas Air National Guard
April 2012 – Present (2 years 5 months)San Antonio, Texas Area

- Responsible for sustainment of CITS/Block 30 NIPR Gateway and supporting infrastructure.
- Experienced in building, configuring, administrating Active Directory, Domain Controllers, Group Policy, Exchange, DNS, DHCP, SANS and multiple large-scale Virtual Environments for cyber security tactics development.

Security Clearance details are available upon request.

(Open)3 organizations
(Open)1 honor or award
(Open)6 courses

GDIT / Softworld Inc.
Palo Alto NG Firewall Engineer
GDIT / Softworld Inc.
May 2014 – July 2014 (3 months)San Antonio, Texas Area

Responsible for administration of several Palo Alto Next Generation Firewall appliances that protect the largest enterprise network in the world. Also specializing in custom IDS/IPS signature creation.
Engineering Technician II
Samsung Austin Semiconductor
April 2011 – May 2014 (3 years 2 months)Austin, Texas Area

Technician on Chemical Vapor Deposition (CVD) Equipment for production of Samsung Flash Memory and ARM Logic Chips.

(Open)1 course"

You do the rest...

Cheers,

ZiG

EDIT...:

Project Manager
ZenMiner
June 2014 – Present (3 months)... Grin


Nice career ...in crypto-world... 3 months...SUPER... Wink

What was ...like "...Highly trained professionals ..." ... Grin

EDIT #2...:   ...BUY more 'Hashelt(s)", sheeps... Grin

EDIT #3...:   ...You have been WARNED ...I am out of here...don't have more time to waste on this Ponzi SCAM...

Good luck,

ZiG
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Summing up what we have learned for Zen/GAWMiners/Josh email.
Hashlets are some kind of virtual shares of a larger mining/business operation.    The yield of Hashlets is currently tied to a pool, but at least for the Prime Hashlets (most expensive) that could change at any point in the future.    A Hashlets seems to have some software associated with it as seen in the variable hashing rate.

Money taken in form Hashlets sales isn’t used to directly play out daily yields, although that may be more of an accounting gimmick in some sense.   Anyway, it seems likely that those funds are used to invest in the various mining operations.   These operations produce the income that is paid back to the Hashlet owners.  Various operations are in part:
-   From at least scrypt, scrypt-N and bitcoin mining;
-   Crypto Currency day trading;
-   Mostly from leasing out hashing power to other companies. 

The amount income paid back to the Hashlet owner is currently limited by a pool yield and reduced by a maintenance fee.   The maintenance fee is could be related to the actual cost of mining hardware used in the profit generation for GAWMiners or it could be just an accounting expense used to reduce gains. 

Slowly we are starting to get a picture of what these Hashlets are. Personally I don’t have a problem with virtual mining as I have done very well with B.Mine, B.Sell and B.Exch on HavelockInvestments.   I haven’t done well with real mining.   
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August 31, 2014, 05:51:52 AM
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Ok, so Eric is likely not the ex-owner / ex-president and perhaps not a millionaire either. Or his Linkedin profile is not up to date. He does have some interesting background... Air Force... firewalls... flash chips... good stuff.
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Ok, so Eric is likely not the ex-owner / ex-president and perhaps not a millionaire either. Or his Linkedin profile is not up to date. He does have some interesting background... Air Force... firewalls... flash chips... good stuff.

Project Manager
ZenMiner
June 2014 – Present (3 months)...

June + 3 months = to August 2014 ...completely as of today ...seems like UP to DATE...

FACTS...even gods are silent, buddy...DON"T argue any more, please...Just accept them...

Ponzi...Maddoff...Josh/GAW's "Hashlets"... OR buy MORE of them..."Make MONEY"...Good luck... Wink

Cheers,

ZiG
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