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[cloverme]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m 

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

[demme]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m 

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

You are correct but Mt. Gox never traded 150 MILLION bitcoins / day 

[cloverme]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m 

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

You are correct but Mt. Gox never traded 150 MILLION bitcoins / day 

My fault, 150 thousand, I stand corrected.  That's what happens when I post before having coffee █]

[s1gs3gv]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

[Honeycutt22]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

LOL... ships in december... The hashlets will likely be paid for by then.

[kupan787]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

I also caught this:

Moreover, the miner will be able to mine multifarious scrypt based altcoin, of which scrypt length can be 1024, 2048, 4096 (n = 10, 11 or 12).

Not being in the ASIC game, do the other script asics allow mining on scrypt-n? If not, this is a pretty big deal, no?

[suchmoon]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

3-4 months is a LONG time

Think about it, merely 4 months ago we were still preordering (well at least I was ) Zeus machines with their excellent power/hash ratio and double hash promotions and whatnot at $100+ per MH/s. That didn't turn out well did it...

Now on the other hand Bitmain is not Zeus, they did compensate fairly for the slight decrease in S3 specs, so it's probably safe to order the L1 if you believe LTC diff will not rise more than 2% on average for the next ~6 months.

[s1gs3gv]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

3-4 months is a LONG time

Indeed. Just to be clear I am not advocating for the L1 or any other pre-order. But the ballistic growth in scrypt hash rates that is going to occur between now and the end of the year is likely to have a significant impact on hashlet profitability … starting later this month with Titan deliveries.

[suchmoon]

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120Mhs/ $599 / December.

$5/Mhs

Makes those hashlets look kinda expensive ...

I also caught this:

Moreover, the miner will be able to mine multifarious scrypt based altcoin, of which scrypt length can be 1024, 2048, 4096 (n = 10, 11 or 12).

Not being in the ASIC game, do the other script asics allow mining on scrypt-n? If not, this is a pretty big deal, no?

Others do not. It's not that big of a deal because one major Scrypt-N coin (Vertcoin) is switching to another algo by December and I don't think the remaining ones (if there are any come December) will be viable for this much hashrate.

[bitgeek]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m  

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

[suchmoon]

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

Don't oversimplify. It's not just spam that gets deleted and you know it. Ask a question or post something the mod doesn't like - poof. Employing resellers to moderate a "community" forum would be laughable anywhere except on hashtalk.

[Elenelen]

I saw someone posting this in another thread:

the beauty of these schemes is that it doesn't even require the company to have or use any of their equipment.  The customer pays up front.  Payouts are made based on difficulty calculations through the life of the contract.  Since you can't ROI, the residual from the initial payment is simply kept as profit.  All the while, the company can hash away with it's private mining operation

This describes exactly the Business-model of the Haslets.   It's an "inflation Ponzi", and as long as the difficulty doesn't go down (highly unlikely) it isn't illegal.

[bitgeek]

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

Don't oversimplify. It's not just spam that gets deleted and you know it. Ask a question or post something the mod doesn't like - poof. Employing resellers to moderate a "community" forum would be laughable anywhere except on hashtalk.

Laughable would be not employing moderators at all. A forum should be moderated so people don't have to go through spam each time they want to find something.
The only things I saw deleted on hashtalk are personal attacks, vulgar behaviour and so on.

[rdyoung]

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

Don't oversimplify. It's not just spam that gets deleted and you know it. Ask a question or post something the mod doesn't like - poof. Employing resellers to moderate a "community" forum would be laughable anywhere except on hashtalk.

Laughable would be not employing moderators at all. A forum should be moderated so people don't have to go through spam each time they want to find something.
The only things I saw deleted on hashtalk are personal attacks, vulgar behaviour and so on.

Interesting how you go from their point about letting people with a vested interest in the status quo moderate, to the extreme of no moderators.
Shill much? Or are you trolling contrarian because you are incapable of debating on our level?

[bitgeek]

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

Don't oversimplify. It's not just spam that gets deleted and you know it. Ask a question or post something the mod doesn't like - poof. Employing resellers to moderate a "community" forum would be laughable anywhere except on hashtalk.

Laughable would be not employing moderators at all. A forum should be moderated so people don't have to go through spam each time they want to find something.
The only things I saw deleted on hashtalk are personal attacks, vulgar behaviour and so on.

Interesting how you go from their point about letting people with a vested interest in the status quo moderate, to the extreme of no moderators.
Shill much? Or are you trolling contrarian because you are incapable of debating on our level?

Wow I'm sorry for not being on your level mr. smartass.
Their moderators are doing a good job. Were you offended by my post? Does it mean you were banned on hashtalk? I'm so sorry.

[Honeycutt22]

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

Don't oversimplify. It's not just spam that gets deleted and you know it. Ask a question or post something the mod doesn't like - poof. Employing resellers to moderate a "community" forum would be laughable anywhere except on hashtalk.

Laughable would be not employing moderators at all. A forum should be moderated so people don't have to go through spam each time they want to find something.
The only things I saw deleted on hashtalk are personal attacks, vulgar behaviour and so on.

Interesting how you go from their point about letting people with a vested interest in the status quo moderate, to the extreme of no moderators.
Shill much? Or are you trolling contrarian because you are incapable of debating on our level?

Wow I'm sorry for not being on your level mr. smartass.
Their moderators are doing a good job. Were you offended by my post? Does it mean you were banned on hashtalk? I'm so sorry.

Most of the mods do well - Some use too many of their "feelings" to moderate, which is unprofessional.. And putting a ban hammer as your icon after going on a banning spree is completely childish. The power goes to their heads...

I still have issues with people buying their way into the moderator status. It reeks of cronyism and frankly gets you bad moderators.

[cloverme]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m  

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

It was not spam, it was on the support ticket I had that was not being handled. Some fool named Zenminer Eric over there was locking any thread asking about when payouts would be processed.

[cloverme]

Also, as an update, I was PM'd by Amber @ GAW, I'll let you guys know if my support tickets get resolved.  (Thank goodness for bitcointalk!)

[Honeycutt22]

lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m  

wakey wakey...

Having money doesn't imply legitimacy or the ability to act in good faith, Bernie Madoff ran an 18 billion dollar ponzi and Mt. Gox traded more than 150 million bitcoins a day. GAW has been trying to spread hype to cover some poor business practices such as missing customer shipments (my own included), missing payments, double charging, collusion and censorship on forums towards customers.

Deleting spam is not censorship. There was a discussion about it few pages ago and someone gave examples of the comments you guys were leaving.
No wonder they deleted them.

It was not spam, it was on the support ticket I had that was not being handled. Some fool named Zenminer Eric over there was locking any thread asking about when payouts would be processed.

Maybe this question was already answered somewhere else and they were locking threads asking about the same thing.
They like to merge threads there. Don't know the whole story so it's hard to say who's right.

Yea, that's probably exactly what was happening... Eric is pretty good and so is Amber. The fact that he locked the thread and didn't delete shows it's not meant as censorship. He probably just doesn't want the forums clogged up anymore than they are.

People are having a learning curve with the new hashtalk.org atm. Takes some getting used to and it's still not working 100% correctly.

[Flep182]

Today my payments are really late. 2 out of 3 show up in one account "two hours ago", the other one isn't there yet. None are available in the balance to withdraw.

Other account same thing.