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July 25, 2014, 11:12:42 PM |
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The Novec didn't let me overclock the Neptune's enough to make it worth it. I am waiting for the Monarch's to see if I can overclock them if they ever ship.
Do you happen to have some SP10s in your disposition to test with Novec? It would be very interesting to see what the performance would be. Taking in consideration that you can pull some ~100W more from the PSU, by removing the fans, and with Novecs decent cooling... Can you actually just put the whole miner in a tub full of that stuff?
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I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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TrekRider
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July 25, 2014, 11:39:47 PM |
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The Novec didn't let me overclock the Neptune's enough to make it worth it. I am waiting for the Monarch's to see if I can overclock them if they ever ship.
Do you happen to have some SP10s in your disposition to test with Novec? It would be very interesting to see what the performance would be. Taking in consideration that you can pull some ~100W more from the PSU, by removing the fans, and with Novecs decent cooling... Can you actually just put the whole miner in a tub full of that stuff? Probably not worth the investment...that would be hella expensive...
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kingscrown
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July 26, 2014, 12:09:47 AM |
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to make something "unusual" ive started #miningporn on instagram and twitter wherre i post rigs of mine and friends - have a look and sub if you like that stuff - http://instagram.com/kingsbtc
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DrG
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July 26, 2014, 12:10:33 AM |
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Yes I am using the DPS2000-BB's. I am running 4 S3's per PSU. I bet I could run more but I only have 8 PCIE cables per PSU.
I am pulling 33 amps @ 240V for 24 of them so 330W each. That is only 1320W per PSU. I could put 2 more easy on each PSU if I made new cables with more PCIE connectors.
Good. Thus you can keep your PSUs unstressed and maybe more efficient? By the way, what happened with you Novec cooling project? The Novec didn't let me overclock the Neptune's enough to make it worth it. I am waiting for the Monarch's to see if I can overclock them if they ever ship. Out of curiosity were the Monarchs you ordered conversions from 65nm gear or did you pre-order Monarch? Did they offer you cloud hashing yet? The S3s seem to be drawing less power than I figured you would, what kind of ambient temps you have there in that warehouse? You must have arctic ari or something
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smracer
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July 26, 2014, 01:54:39 AM |
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Out of curiosity were the Monarchs you ordered conversions from 65nm gear or did you pre-order Monarch? Did they offer you cloud hashing yet? The S3s seem to be drawing less power than I figured you would, what kind of ambient temps you have there in that warehouse? You must have arctic ari or something They were conversions from mini-rigs. Yes I have cloudhashing for almost all of my Monarch orders. The amps went up to 34 once I got all the S3's working correctly. 3 of them had boards that were disconnected and 2 of them had fans that got damaged. So now they average around 340W each. I keep the warehouse at 88F. My 15,000cfm blower is going in tuesday to remove the heat. I actually have 60 tons of AC already installed but I don't turn them on because they use too much power. I use 1 AC unit to keep the building at 88F during the day.
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jimmothy
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July 26, 2014, 02:15:44 AM |
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I keep the warehouse at 88F. My 15,000cfm blower is going in tuesday to remove the heat. I actually have 60 tons of AC already installed but I don't turn them on because they use too much power. I use 1 AC unit to keep the building at 88F during the day. https://i.imgur.com/V2dAFjz.jpgWhat kind of blower is that? Any idea of how much KW it might be able to cool?
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psahx
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July 26, 2014, 02:33:10 AM |
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I keep the warehouse at 88F. My 15,000cfm blower is going in tuesday to remove the heat. I actually have 60 tons of AC already installed but I don't turn them on because they use too much power. I use 1 AC unit to keep the building at 88F during the day. https://i.imgur.com/V2dAFjz.jpgWhat kind of blower is that? Any idea of how much KW it might be able to cool? 15,000 cfm = 15,000 Cubic Feet per Minute. That's how much air it can blow. It is not for cooling, it is just to remove the hot air, exactly 15,000 Cubic Feet per Minute.
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jimmothy
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July 26, 2014, 02:40:01 AM |
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I keep the warehouse at 88F. My 15,000cfm blower is going in tuesday to remove the heat. I actually have 60 tons of AC already installed but I don't turn them on because they use too much power. I use 1 AC unit to keep the building at 88F during the day. https://i.imgur.com/V2dAFjz.jpgWhat kind of blower is that? Any idea of how much KW it might be able to cool? 15,000 cfm = 15,000 Cubic Feet per Minute. That's how much air it can blow. It is not for cooling, it is just to remove the hot air, exactly 15,000 Cubic Feet per Minute. Removing heat = cooling. Every air cooled datacenter needs X amount of CFM to keep Y KW worth of hardware at Z degrees.
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psahx
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July 26, 2014, 02:48:21 AM |
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Removing heat = cooling.
Every air cooled datacenter needs X amount of CFM to keep Y KW worth of hardware at Z degrees.
No. Removing heat = Removing hot air from the building Cooling = Cooling the same air and circulating it back Can't make it simpler, sorry.
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jimmothy
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July 26, 2014, 03:01:23 AM |
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Cooling = Cooling the same air and circulating it back
cool ko͞ol/ verb gerund or present participle: cooling become or cause to become less hot. I'm not going to argue about the semantics. But every method of cooling you can think of involves removing heat via air (or sometimes liquid).
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psahx
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July 26, 2014, 03:20:22 AM |
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cool ko͞ol/ verb gerund or present participle: cooling
become or cause to become less hot.
I'm not going to argue about the semantics. But every method of cooling you can think of involves removing heat via air (or sometimes liquid).
My last try to fix your ignorance. Search for the meaning of the word CONTEXT, that will give you some small chance to understand what I did meant. Other than that, I am helpless, sorry.
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bbeesley
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July 26, 2014, 03:34:08 AM |
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guys...you are picking nits here
moving air around has a cooling effect, especially since miners operate at temps that are generally above even the highest ambient temps...unless you happen to live in Death Valley or Aziziya
if you let the air get trapped in a building or room, the miners can quickly raise the temps to really high levels...exhaust that hot air and also bring in fresh, cooler air then you can maintain stasis
it is "cooling" even if it is not using some sort of refrigeration mechanism to do so
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July 26, 2014, 04:46:48 PM |
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cool ko͞ol/ verb gerund or present participle: cooling
become or cause to become less hot.
I'm not going to argue about the semantics. But every method of cooling you can think of involves removing heat via air (or sometimes liquid).
My last try to fix your ignorance. Search for the meaning of the word CONTEXT, that will give you some small chance to understand what I did meant. Other than that, I am helpless, sorry. Im siding with jimmothy - he knows enough about how removing hot air works to reduce operating temperatures of hardware (assuming the air flowing is in a lower temperature than your exhaust, either by A/C or simply cooler outside air) that to say that removing heat isnt cooling is silly. lets rephrase the question: BEFORE and AFTER adding the blower to remove hot air, what is the difference in heat production (aka power draw) that the building can handle under the same conditions as before? obviously theres a dozen factors like placement and direction and power draw of the blower, but a rough number is enough. can you handle ~30kW more equipment than before? 50kW?
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July 26, 2014, 08:05:50 PM |
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Would love to actually see some "pictures of your mining rigs"!
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kingscrown
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July 27, 2014, 03:54:58 AM |
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Would love to actually see some "pictures of your mining rigs"! #miningporn on twitter and instagram
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July 27, 2014, 05:19:59 AM |
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This thread has less pictures of mining hardware than others, what happened ? No new members with cool mining farms ?
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DrG
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July 27, 2014, 06:14:03 AM |
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Removing heat = cooling.
Every air cooled datacenter needs X amount of CFM to keep Y KW worth of hardware at Z degrees.
No. Removing heat = Removing hot air from the building Cooling = Cooling the same air and circulating it back Can't make it simpler, sorry. The issue is complicated by the fact that the incoming air is the same temp as the ambient, and the internal air is being dumped outside. The real question should be what is the heat capacity of those 15000CF that is being removed. That depends on air pressure (elevation) and water vapor. It's a little complicated unless you do that stuff for a living. If the 15000CFM is able to bring in enough "cool" air from outside and the hot air can rise to the top of the warehouse it doesn't really matter.
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stryker
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July 27, 2014, 07:59:59 AM |
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More bitcoin mining pron and less yap!
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king_pin
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July 27, 2014, 08:26:21 PM |
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I keep the warehouse at 88F. My 15,000cfm blower is going in tuesday to remove the heat. I actually have 60 tons of AC already installed but I don't turn them on because they use too much power. I use 1 AC unit to keep the building at 88F during the day. https://i.imgur.com/V2dAFjz.jpgWhat kind of blower is that? Any idea of how much KW it might be able to cool? Well I am using a Helios KRD 500 wich pulls around 5650cfm and "drains" my pocket with 1,72kW so you do the math. My fan is more than enough to cool 100 ATI Radeon 280X/290 cards on SCrypt, I can bet it can cool twice that, if I had better air ducts (im using a 50x50 air duct and a adapter)
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July 27, 2014, 08:38:50 PM |
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This thread has less pictures of mining hardware than others, what happened ? No new members with cool mining farms ?
thread switched from images to who has largest liquid cooling epeen and rest stopped posting.
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