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August 18, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
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..  I'm buying up to 200K BURST, PM me with offers.
- hi, you can buy 83`000 BURST at 0.003474 BTC/1000FIM at decentralized Asset Exchange right now, and you can place some buy orders at your price as well.

So is it 3474 Satoshis per 1000 BURST?
Thats actually 347400 sats per 1k burst. Or 374.4 satoshis/burst. I think, it's too early for me to do math

So basically, 0.3744 BTC per 100K BURST?
- yes, you can see here or here or here.  At the last place you can buy that sell order even for BTC, without installing Nxt wallet, or using Nxt public nodes.

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August 18, 2014, 05:43:57 PM
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..  I'm buying up to 200K BURST, PM me with offers.
- hi, you can buy 83`000 BURST at 0.003474 BTC/1000FIM at decentralized Asset Exchange right now, and you can place some buy orders at your price as well.

So is it 3474 Satoshis per 1000 BURST?

if i read well 347400satoshi for 1000 burst!!!

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August 18, 2014, 05:45:35 PM
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By the way do i need big plots or can i just make 10 million small plots ?
this depends on your filesystem. i currently work with 11tb of 2gb plots on linux.
i am not sure how much time overhead is required to open and close the files during the search.

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August 18, 2014, 05:48:28 PM
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Luxe just a simple request.
when the disk is full, run_generate program delete plots folder and restart.
so i lost 500gb of plot!!!
can you release an update like this...
DISK FULL --> run_generate stop itself without delete plot folder!!!

thanks!!!!

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August 18, 2014, 06:12:44 PM
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Luxe just a simple request.
when the disk is full, run_generate program delete plots folder and restart.
so i lost 500gb of plot!!!
can you release an update like this...
DISK FULL --> run_generate stop itself without delete plot folder!!!

thanks!!!!
has it removed all (if there were more than 1) files in the plot folder or only the one it was creating?

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August 18, 2014, 06:14:54 PM
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Luxe just a simple request.
when the disk is full, run_generate program delete plots folder and restart.
so i lost 500gb of plot!!!
can you release an update like this...
DISK FULL --> run_generate stop itself without delete plot folder!!!

thanks!!!!
has it removed all (if there were more than 1) files in the plot folder or only the one it was creating?
I Have just one big file for each plots folder. So it delete the only one.

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WTS 50K for 0.25 BTC

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WTS 100K for 0.9 BTC

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August 18, 2014, 06:32:36 PM
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Hey everyone

Some of you may know me as the person behind the new Burst UI. I've also gone ahead and decided to redesign the Burst OP. I've decided to put emphasis on the stand-out features of Burst. Let me know what you think Smiley

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Announcement: Update to version 1.0.2 before block 2700





NXT based
POS removed
No IPO
No Premine
4 minute block time
2,158,812,800 coins total
Block reward starts at 10,000/block, then decreases 5% each month (similar to halving every 14 months, but much smoother)
Uses pocminer made for this coin



Wallet: 1.0.2 https://mega.co.nz/#!C0hEmRKD!pf70p7VucqfYyUpqOXZgWTOYu2r_vs4d8g5yRnfrQ5Y
sha256: f218a220e7bc1a280edadfcc3b77b3408f3d364fca9d2acfd9f9ddb6c0533701
After running wallet, access it through a web browser at http://localhost:8125
POCMiner: https://mega.co.nz/#!b0pzHajA!ERk068l5NS6kR7zdLdTgltqyPw3Z60lwAWvgXtNQNTk
fba1ba039fb94868f452c9724002cb85dc7a635384c2cef395cd1578e7031cac
Windows mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8298999#msg8298999 (thanks to KSpinner)
Linux mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8299637#msg8299637 (thanks to TetraHect0rCannabinol)

Plot range checker: https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/overlap (thanks to dcct)
Plot merge tool(significantly reduce disk stress. linux only): https://bchain.info/merge.c (thanks to dcct)



https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin
https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer



abctc's NXT burst gateway: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8381305#msg8381305



Burst uses a new algorithm for proof of hdd capacity (POC) mining. Miners pre-generate chunks of data known as 'plots' which are then saved to disk. The number of plots you store is effectively your mining speed. Every block the miner will skim through the saved plots, and come up with an amount of time until it is able to mine a block if another block hasn't yet been found. After reading through the plots is complete, your hardware can idle until the block. The miner will be released a few hours before launch to give miners time to start generating plots.



Miners generate and cache chunks of data known as 'plots', which are divided into 4096 portions known as 'scoops'.
Plots are generated by taking a public address and a nonce, then hashing it, pre-appending the resulting hash, repeating the hash-pre-append cycle many times, and then hashing the whole thing and xor'ing the last hash with the whole thing.
Plots are staggered together so chunks of the same scoop number are together, then written to disk.
Each block has a generation signature which is derived only from the previous block's generation signature and miner, so it is difficult to manipulate.
When mining, the scoop number to be used for a block is derived from the generation signature and the block height, so the miner reads all relevant scoops(each plot will have 1 relevant scoop, and staggering allows for larger sequential read with less seeking) Only 0.024% of the stored data will need to be read each block.
The generation signature is hashed with each scoop. 8 bytes are taken from the hash, then divided by a scaling factor(inverse difficulty)
The resulting number is a number of seconds. If that many seconds passes since the last block without a new one, the address/nonce combination used to generate that plot/scoop is eligable to announce a new block.
The miner's hardware can just sit idle until either that time or a new block.
The address/nonce is included in the block as proof of eligability, and the block is signed by that address.

Technically, this mining process can be mined POW-style, however mining it as intended will yield thousands of times the hashrate, and your hardware will sit idle most of the time. Continuously hashing until a block is found is unnecessary, as waiting long enough will cause any nonce to eventually become valid.

Shoddily made flow chart of the general process. Does not include caching plot to disk and retrieving them:




Basic pool support
Improved pool support
BurstId authentication system



2014/08/17 New version release 1.0.2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8404060#msg8404060
2014/08/16 Statement regarding the difficulty adjustment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8387248#msg8387248
2014/08/11 The pool situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8302521#msg8302521
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August 18, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
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Damn, i like it.

Very nice.


Def? Take it pls!
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Hey everyone

Some of you may know me as the person behind the new Burst UI. I've also gone ahead and decided to redesign the Burst OP. I've decided to put emphasis on the stand-out features of Burst. Let me know what you think Smiley

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Announcement: Update to version 1.0.2 before block 2700





NXT based
POS removed
No IPO
No Premine
4 minute block time
2,158,812,800 coins total
Block reward starts at 10,000/block, then decreases 5% each month (similar to halving every 14 months, but much smoother)
Uses pocminer made for this coin



Wallet: 1.0.2 https://mega.co.nz/#!C0hEmRKD!pf70p7VucqfYyUpqOXZgWTOYu2r_vs4d8g5yRnfrQ5Y
sha256: f218a220e7bc1a280edadfcc3b77b3408f3d364fca9d2acfd9f9ddb6c0533701
After running wallet, access it through a web browser at http://localhost:8125
POCMiner: https://mega.co.nz/#!b0pzHajA!ERk068l5NS6kR7zdLdTgltqyPw3Z60lwAWvgXtNQNTk
fba1ba039fb94868f452c9724002cb85dc7a635384c2cef395cd1578e7031cac
Windows mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8298999#msg8298999 (thanks to KSpinner)
Linux mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8299637#msg8299637 (thanks to TetraHect0rCannabinol)

Plot range checker: https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/overlap (thanks to dcct)
Plot merge tool(significantly reduce disk stress. linux only): https://bchain.info/merge.c (thanks to dcct)



https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin
https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer



abctc's NXT burst gateway: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8381305#msg8381305



Burst uses a new algorithm for proof of hdd capacity (POC) mining. Miners pre-generate chunks of data known as 'plots' which are then saved to disk. The number of plots you store is effectively your mining speed. Every block the miner will skim through the saved plots, and come up with an amount of time until it is able to mine a block if another block hasn't yet been found. After reading through the plots is complete, your hardware can idle until the block. The miner will be released a few hours before launch to give miners time to start generating plots.



Miners generate and cache chunks of data known as 'plots', which are divided into 4096 portions known as 'scoops'.
Plots are generated by taking a public address and a nonce, then hashing it, pre-appending the resulting hash, repeating the hash-pre-append cycle many times, and then hashing the whole thing and xor'ing the last hash with the whole thing.
Plots are staggered together so chunks of the same scoop number are together, then written to disk.
Each block has a generation signature which is derived only from the previous block's generation signature and miner, so it is difficult to manipulate.
When mining, the scoop number to be used for a block is derived from the generation signature and the block height, so the miner reads all relevant scoops(each plot will have 1 relevant scoop, and staggering allows for larger sequential read with less seeking) Only 0.024% of the stored data will need to be read each block.
The generation signature is hashed with each scoop. 8 bytes are taken from the hash, then divided by a scaling factor(inverse difficulty)
The resulting number is a number of seconds. If that many seconds passes since the last block without a new one, the address/nonce combination used to generate that plot/scoop is eligable to announce a new block.
The miner's hardware can just sit idle until either that time or a new block.
The address/nonce is included in the block as proof of eligability, and the block is signed by that address.

Technically, this mining process can be mined POW-style, however mining it as intended will yield thousands of times the hashrate, and your hardware will sit idle most of the time. Continuously hashing until a block is found is unnecessary, as waiting long enough will cause any nonce to eventually become valid.

Shoddily made flow chart of the general process. Does not include caching plot to disk and retrieving them:




Basic pool support
Improved pool support
BurstId authentication system



2014/08/17 New version release 1.0.2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8404060#msg8404060
2014/08/16 Statement regarding the difficulty adjustment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8387248#msg8387248
2014/08/11 The pool situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8302521#msg8302521

Just bumping this to the new page.
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August 18, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
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it's realy nice Cheesy

but,please don't reply such big images. it makes topic hard to read from a small devices such as smartphones.
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August 18, 2014, 06:46:23 PM
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Luxe just a simple request.
when the disk is full, run_generate program delete plots folder and restart.
so i lost 500gb of plot!!!
can you release an update like this...
DISK FULL --> run_generate stop itself without delete plot folder!!!

thanks!!!!

hmm .. just looked at the source:
https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer/blob/master/src/pocminer/GenerateSupr.java
on the first look it seams that just following is needed, surrounding/replacing line 36 to close the output stream on exception ... but i don't have the time to test it out right now ... sry.
Code:
try{
 out.write(outbuffer);
}catch(Exception e){
 out.close();
 getContext().system().shutdown();
}
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August 18, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
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It's really good. I love it. Nice symbols and so on. Someone should also replace that scheme that causes eye cancer with something burstin' beautiful  Smiley

github/dawallet   Burst Client for Win & Burstcoin.biz
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August 18, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
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BURST for sale... If you want to avoid the NXT exchange, and complete a basic BTC for BURST exchange PM me...

I have 300K + Available.

30K lots, 50K lots, 100K lots, and even 300K lots if needed. PM me, Thanx!

Can use escrow, or break it up into smaller tarnsactions and straight trade. Let me know.

***I know people had a hard enough time setting up the BURST client. And while I personally use NXT and am familiar with the AE, some people might not be and don't want to go through the conversion to NXT, and then converting NXT to BTC, and then withdrawing BTC and incurring fees, with exchange rates fluctuating, etc...Then I have immediate BURST available***

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August 18, 2014, 07:04:30 PM
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How do I know that the id file I generated in my miner program is tied to my wallet account?  I haven't seen anything that solidly states it is.  When I open the localhost:8125 now, it opens to the correct BURST account number, but if I find a block how do I know I got it?  How do I even tell if I have found a block?

CGminer and SGminer had the Difficulty / Best Share numbers so that made it easy to tell.

if you login into web wallet localhost:8125 and click on NRS a pop up with all data appear...
difficulty information too.

Difficulty is currently 329.7 TRILLION.  Is this supposed to encourage me to mine?

No, obviously! In fact i'm asking myself why you are still here.. Don't you think that maybe your words aren't the best for someone that is helping you? People like you, spreading shit everywhere, must be ignored. The how-to is in the first page, lot of us was able to set up everything without any trouble, wallet is working, miner too and every 4 minutes someone find a block, so read, study, try, test and stop mucking up this thread.

+1 - Go away troll.  You are no longer welcome.




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August 18, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
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Luxe just a simple request.
when the disk is full, run_generate program delete plots folder and restart.
so i lost 500gb of plot!!!
can you release an update like this...
DISK FULL --> run_generate stop itself without delete plot folder!!!

thanks!!!!

hmm .. just looked at the source:
https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer/blob/master/src/pocminer/GenerateSupr.java
on the first look it seams that just following is needed, surrounding/replacing line 36 to close the output stream on exception ... but i don't have the time to test it out right now ... sry.
Code:
try{

 out.write(outbuffer);
}catch(Exception e){
 out.close();
 getContext().system().shutdown();
}


i'm not able to modify code for winzoz and recompile it.
i hope you update code for next release!

thank you again luxe!

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August 18, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
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WTS 370k Burst
Pm me with offer
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August 18, 2014, 07:19:10 PM
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i'm not able to modify code for winzoz and recompile it.
i hope you update code for next release!

thank you again luxe!

you could just notify dev, that harden code at this point would make sense ... i don't even have git skills right now or know how to use github ... have to figure that out first :-)
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Looks good Wulfcastle.
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