Scientific proof that God exists?

[username18333]

I have elucidated your world, both that of the gourd and without. Knowledge has been brandished for your liberty, and by entropy shall exceed and consume.

Entropy.. cmon, your as obsessed as I am at finding proof of god, who is NOT entropy, for entropy could not exist without an english word to describe it.. Now, please say 'entropy' in the language god used to create the lot, or shut up

For an absolute tendency to become less orderly, the sum of existence is everything.

[Decksperiment]

I have elucidated your world, both that of the gourd and without. Knowledge has been brandished for your liberty, and by entropy shall exceed and consume.

Entropy.. cmon, your as obsessed as I am at finding proof of god, who is NOT entropy, for entropy could not exist without an english word to describe it.. Now, please say 'entropy' in the language god used to create the lot, or shut up

For an absolute tendency to become less orderly, the sum of existence is everything.

Fuck off somewhere else, nothing you have said even attracts people searchin, you just prattle like me, at least I found a thread, you just dinae ken when tae actually join in.. cheerio.. fuckin weirdo..

For an absolute loada fuckin shit wi creamy jammy dodgers, wi a scratch n sniff flavour, thats nowt tae dae wi god,  username18333 is the one.. meaning?

[username18333]

I have elucidated your world, both that of the gourd and without. Knowledge has been brandished for your liberty, and by entropy shall exceed and consume.

Entropy.. cmon, your as obsessed as I am at finding proof of god, who is NOT entropy, for entropy could not exist without an english word to describe it.. Now, please say 'entropy' in the language god used to create the lot, or shut up

For an absolute tendency to become less orderly, the sum of existence is everything.

Fuck off somewhere else, nothing you have said even attracts people searchin, you just prattle like me, at least I found a thread, you just dinae ken when tae actually join in.. cheerio.. fuckin weirdo..

For an absolute loada fuckin shit wi creamy jammy dodgers, wi a scratch n sniff flavour, thats nowt tae dae wi god,  username18333 is the one.. meaning?

Hocrim tlomius.

[BADecker]

I have elucidated your world, both that of the gourd and without. Knowledge has been brandished for your liberty, and by entropy shall exceed and consume.

Entropy.. cmon, your as obsessed as I am at finding proof of god, who is NOT entropy, for entropy could not exist without an english word to describe it.. Now, please say 'entropy' in the language god used to create the lot, or shut up

For an absolute tendency to become less orderly, the sum of existence is everything.

Fuck off somewhere else, nothing you have said even attracts people searchin, you just prattle like me, at least I found a thread, you just dinae ken when tae actually join in.. cheerio.. fuckin weirdo..

For an absolute loada fuckin shit wi creamy jammy dodgers, wi a scratch n sniff flavour, thats nowt tae dae wi god,  username18333 is the one.. meaning?

Hocrim tlomius.

Now, Decky. Be reasonable. Here's what I mean.
1. We see entropy all around. It is readily identifiable.
2. We don't see anything that could kick the universe into the high heights of advancement that are all around us.
3. Man is extremely intelligent and advanced (compared with, say, a microbe), and life and the universe as we see it are marvelous in their actions and activity, even though everything is slowing down due to entropy.
4. If the universe is billions of years old, and entropy has been going on all this long while ('cause we don't see anything other than entropy), just think how great everything must have been even only 1 billion years ago!!!

Entropy is causing everything to decline. Just think of the heights we must have fallen from if we have been declining for billions of years. And we must have been declining. Why? Because we don't see anything that could have caused any advancement in all that time. It just doesn't exist. Evolution is all guesswork. Entropy is so widespread that evolution is as though it were nothing, or less than nothing.

So, since we have been declining due to entropy for all these billions of years, why haven't we left ourselves any clear records form the past? You know, the past of, say, a million years ago when we were advanced way higher than we are now, because entropy didn't have time to do its work way back then, yet, as much as it has done now?

[BADecker]

Oh yeah. It's Sunday. Decky's in church. 

[dank]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

[jackjack]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

So much irony my eyes are burning

[BADecker]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

Waiting for a list of rules... please?  

[BADecker]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

So much irony my eyes are burning

Try ironing your Sunday shirt rather than your eyes. 

[bl4kjaguar]

I think, therefore I AM. 

[dank]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

So much irony my eyes are burning

Your lack of understanding does not reflect my level of understanding, it reflects your perception.

[username18333]

Could you please stop spamming a thread that has valuable information in it?  Would be appreciated.

So much irony my eyes are burning

Your lack of understanding does not reflect my level of understanding, it reflects your perception.

Nay, it reflects a lack of his understanding.

[(oYo)]

I've been avoiding this thread mainly because, I strongly believe there wouldn't be any religious people left if you could reason with them about their faith. It isn't that they aren't capable of applying logic when they want to, since they seem to function in every aspect of society, it's just that they aren't willing to when it comes down to their faith. The reason for this is obvious - they simply have too much faith.

Here is a write up on the most common questions (with answers) directed towards atheists. This is more for the benefit of the atheists here that wish to continue debating with religious people, rather than any aspirations I may have of the religious people understanding and accepting it.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2013/06/11/9-questions-not-to-ask-atheists-with-answers/

Here's some food for thought.


Have a nice day.  

[Bitcoin Magazine]

god is real.  because he's wrong.  the end

[username18333]

I've been avoiding this thread mainly because, I strongly believe there wouldn't be any religious people left if you could reason with them about their faith. It isn't that they aren't capable of applying logic when they want to, since they seem to function in every aspect of society, it's just that they aren't willing to when it comes down to their faith. The reason for this is obvious - they simply have too much faith.

Here is a write up on the most common questions (with answers) directed towards atheists. This is more for the benefit of the atheists here that wish to continue debating with religious people, rather than any aspirations I may have of the religious people understanding and accepting it.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2013/06/11/9-questions-not-to-ask-atheists-with-answers/

Here's some food for thought.


Have a nice day.  

You haven't reached the "black hole" (nor "stone") phase of your entropic development, have you?

[BADecker]

Actually, for each of us the universe has an end. Life is short, so the universe experience is short. However, something way beyond the understanding of everybody put this life - such as it is - together. We see the beginning. We feel the end coming. After the end, it is gone; we don't really understand anything about it. So, how can we understand if there is going to come another life where we, our personal selves individually, are going to come back and live again... or not? We don't.

Nobody has enough knowledge to answer these questions FOR A FACT, truthfully, one way or another. Religion is the only method that we have for attempting to answer. Science is showing us that the universe is way too complicated for a scientific answer... at least anywhere within our lifetime. Religion has to do with certain kinds of odds, and the way we play those odds in our little bit of understanding that we DO seem to have.

The odds. Probability. Check out the different questions you can ask "the universe," or yourself. See if they are answered somehow. Include the method of SINCERELY asking God, 'cause He might answer, if He is real. I mean, we want the answer, right? And there isn't anything but guesswork, even in science. So, why not be sincere, trust for awhile that God exists, and ask Him? If He doesn't exist, He won't answer, right? So, nothing lost except the time that it takes to get sincere, and ask, and leave yourself open for the answer, right?

Personally, I get answers to my questions that I ask God all the time. They don't come in the form that I always expect. And I don't like some of the answers. And I often make believe I didn't hear the answer. But what can it hurt to be sincere and ask Him? We don't really have anything else.

[username18333]

Actually, for each of us the universe has an end. Life is short, so the universe experience is short. However, something way beyond the understanding of everybody put this life - such as it is - together. We see the beginning. We feel the end coming. After the end, it is gone; we don't really understand anything about it. So, how can we understand if there is going to come another life where we, our personal selves individually, are going to come back and live again... or not? We don't.

Nobody has enough knowledge to answer these questions FOR A FACT, truthfully, one way or another. Religion is the only method that we have for attempting to answer. Science is showing us that the universe is way to complicated for a scientific answer... at least anywhere within our lifetime. Religion has to do with certain kinds of odds, and the way we play those odds in our little bit of understanding that we DO seem to have.

The odds. Probability. Check out the different questions you can ask "the universe," or yourself. See if they are answered somehow. Include the method of SINCERELY asking God, 'cause He might answer, if He is real. I mean, we want the answer, right? And there isn't anything but guesswork, even in science. So, why not be sincere, trust for awhile that God exists, and ask Him? If He doesn't exist, He won't answer, right? So, nothing lost except the time that it takes to get sincere, and ask, and leave yourself open for the answer, right?

Personally, I get answers to my questions that I ask God all the time. They don't come in the form that I always expect. And I don't like some of the answers. And I often make believe I didn't hear the answer. But what can it hurt to be sincere and ask Him? We don't really have anything else.

Within limakasidian entropism, it is held that deliberate introduction of entropy into the mind for its unloosing can delay its loss to that uncontrolled.

[BADecker]

Within limakasidian entropism, it is held that deliberate introduction of entropy into the mind for its unloosing can delay its loss to that uncontrolled.

The thing I would truly like to know is, are there any people on earth, right now, who are literally 200 years old or older.

Have those who have attempted or practiced introducing entropy, mentally, intentionally... are there records of the kinds of results they have received in their life? Are the results more than only mental (spiritual?) results?

[BADecker]

There is great underlying logic to life. People gradually deteriorate and grow old. It is gradual because the mechanisms for life are powerful in some ways, and attempt to keep us alive. As the mechanisms themselves deteriorate, we gradually fall apart (I'm not talking about people who get hit by a Mack truck.).

The question I ask here is, do we die because we fall apart? Or is death really a way to depart this life when it would be too painful to keep on living? What if we kept on living past the time when we normally should die because of weakness. What if we simply didn't die? Is death a gift, built into nature?

[username18333]

There is great underlying logic to life. People gradually deteriorate and grow old. It is gradual because the mechanisms for life are powerful in some ways, and attempt to keep us alive. As the mechanisms themselves deteriorate, we gradually fall apart (I'm not talking about people who get hit by a Mack truck.).

The question I ask here is, do we die because we fall apart? Or is death really a way to depart this life when it would be too painful to keep on living? What if we kept on living past the time when we normally should die because of weakness. What if we simply didn't die? Is death a gift, built into nature?

Well, first you have to start with everything. (.)

There is congruence and in-congruence within everything. Rational intelligibility (think: "being an element of the set of all real numbers") is begotten of congruence. Irrational intelligibility (think: "being an element of the set of all imaginary numbers") is begotten of incongruence.




We aren't discussing the paradoxical (elements "of the set of all imaginary numbers"), but that rationally intelligible.

A classification, within limakasidian entropism, is a "subset of the set of all real numbers." (Note, again, only that rationally intelligible is being discussed.) When one speaks to "alive" and "dead" they are actually speaking to membership within certain subsets.


Speaking, then to death, one "dies" (ceases to be element of certain subsets of the rationally intelligible) because that was only a subset of it and the whole of them are.




What, then, does one gain by acquiring entropy within the mind?

Acquiring such entropy, such possible states of existing, it spans the assorted congruities that also had one's mind know that (that multitude of differences is entropy of existence).


As there is every congruence, there is every mind in every way. (Indeed, there is every thing in every way.)


How is this known?

An absolute tendency to become less orderly would not only generate itself but everything, Congruence (and, thus, incongruence) would be an inevitable consequence of every thing being. It is known, by change within one's own mind that there is a tendency to become less orderly, and one such tendency absolute is the most genuine embodiment of that.


What of restraint upon the genuineness of that?

Any such constraint would, itself, have to hail from a tendency to become less orderly for one would then have the "natural kind" and constraint upon its manifestation.


"Natural kind?"

Indeed, Aristotle (as all others) spoke truth! There is the natural kind, absolute tendency to become less orderly, and there are manifestations of that, every thing.


How have all others spoken truth?

Everything is by infinite congruence within an infinite number of things.





Infinite Congruence

Imagine cutting a tree into ten million slices. Should you position those slices in their original arrangement, you'll have what appears to be a tree. That's what like reality is like, except with an infinite amount of infinite varieties of "slices" (they're not actually portions of anything, save within congruence).


In-congruence

Should you position those slices in a wholly arbitrary order that does not correspond to the original, you would have an absurdity that would likely make you noxious. That is a more polite "subset of the set of all imaginary numbers" (your ¹/₀, if you will), for the individual slices themselves make sense.