Scientific proof that God exists?

[username18333]

Your kinda like a bible basher, I knew you would come up with.. well, the same answer as my previous post.. 0 = no thing.

(See that post therein linked.)

[Decksperiment]

Sorry, my understanding of math is an entirely different subject lol, in that anything other than counting cash is not much use to me.. I tried explaining some of it in earlier post's/thread's, but the world aint ready for it yet..

[username18333]

Sorry, my understanding of math is an entirely different subject lol, in that anything other than counting cash is not much use to me.. I tried explaining some of it in earlier post's/thread's, but the world aint ready for it yet..

If zero represented an absence of quantity, negative zero would represent a stateless quantity and the other numbers would represent stated ones.

[Decksperiment]

If.. but this is reality mate, no if's, no but's.. your preaching nothing than total fantasy, regardless of the math's.. wake up!

[My Name Was Taken]

Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

That's not how atheists or science works.

[cocos]

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

[Decksperiment]

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

[My Name Was Taken]

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

This is why religious folks aren't allowed to be in charge any more. There was once a time when religion and government was closely intertwined. It was called the Dark Ages.

[Decksperiment]

Pmsl... the queen rules the colonies thanks to rome, welcome back

Edit: MI5 aka 007, aka John Dee, astrologer to the queen, who cannot be queen without say so from the church, who do so in the name of god, correct me if I'm wrong..

[cocos]

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

"This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures."

                                                                                                        "Heraclitus"

Are you wiser than Heraclitus?

[Decksperiment]

Actually, no two people experience the same, wether part of this universe or not, for no two eye's see the same colour.. which is forever changing from day to day..

[Decksperiment]

I reckon if people want evidence of god they need to consider what was BEFORE god spoke "let there be light"

We know there was 'deep' and 'darkness' (which incidently, prove's darkness will win in the end, as in the A & O, from darkness, and water,  we came) which the 'spirit' of god moved over. Now we have a focal point for FINDING scientific proof of god.

All you have in your mind's eye right now is water, reflecting darkness. Cold, and Wet.As for what moved over this 'deep' which could, as previously stated, only be possible (scientifically) if the water was contained, or ice - ?

Answer's, please?

[Lauda]

"This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures."

                                                                                                        "Heraclitus"

Are you wiser than Heraclitus?

You can't really compare people from back then and now. Science has shown us many things and changed the way that we see everything (well at least for the non-ignorant, non-religious people).
Also nobody sees things the same way, and things like 'perception', 'reality' were always discussable.

[Vod]

I reckon if people want evidence of god they need to consider what was BEFORE god spoke "let there be light"

We know there was 'deep' and 'darkness' (which incidently, prove's darkness will win in the end, as in the A & O, from darkness, and water,  we came) which the 'spirit' of god moved over. Now we have a focal point for FINDING scientific proof of god.

All you have in your mind's eye right now is water, reflecting darkness. Cold, and Wet.As for what moved over this 'deep' which could, as previously stated, only be possible (scientifically) if the water was contained, or ice - ?

Answer's, please?

Light happened approx 4 billion years ago with the fusion of the sun
Land formed approx 3 billion years ago with the gravitation collection of the earth
Water formed approx 2 billion years ago from meteorites and comets.

Your 2,000 year old book has it very backwards.  Try reading a newer book.

 

[Slark]

I am afraid that Bible and other holy books as we know them today will be long gone in like 2000 years from now. Then it would be only a memory and mythology. Like today we have ancient Greek and Roman mythology. And no one believes in Zeus or Athena today.

[Decksperiment]

I reckon if people want evidence of god they need to consider what was BEFORE god spoke "let there be light"

We know there was 'deep' and 'darkness' (which incidently, prove's darkness will win in the end, as in the A & O, from darkness, and water,  we came) which the 'spirit' of god moved over. Now we have a focal point for FINDING scientific proof of god.

All you have in your mind's eye right now is water, reflecting darkness. Cold, and Wet.As for what moved over this 'deep' which could, as previously stated, only be possible (scientifically) if the water was contained, or ice - ?

Answer's, please?

Light happened approx 4 billion years ago with the fusion of the sun
Land formed approx 3 billion years ago with the gravitation collection of the earth
Water formed approx 2 billion years ago from meteorites and comets.

Your 2,000 year old book has it very backwards.  Try reading a newer book.

 

To think light happened 'approx' 4 billion years ago is as nonsensicle as the bible. To think land formed 1 billion years later is also nonsense, as for how solid meteorite's and comet's became h20.. I dont think so.. I dont have a 2000 year old book, for I am not religious, spiritual, yes, but religious enough to believe in a false god designed to instill fear, nah.. notice how all of nature attack's fear? I only try to answer the op's question, sometimes by saying thing's I know will trigger other response's, that in turn will (hopefully) trigger answer's that bring us closer to the truth like, for instance, test equipment is only designed to tell us what it is designed to tell us, it cannot question, and or decide anything we dont program it to.. so to say everything started way back whenever the gadjets we make, show, is nonsense in itself.. be it 2000 years, or 100 billion trillion, it all started somewhere.. I just got one question, which I know no-one can answer, and that is, where DID it all (all including the space inbetween) come from?

Let me guess, it just happened..? nah..

I have to say, that not one book has ever answered me in a fair and square way, any possible way that the infinite space up there could be, full stop. It's one thing to have an idea of how old something is, like, say, light, okay, let's just say for argument's sake that you are correct, then how old is the space in between object's, ya know, the 'nothing' the big gap's inbetween everything we could imagine?

How old is the dark stuff?

And how do you get fusion from water and dark?

Wether it always has been or not, it came from, and started somewhere, and if a god created it, then there must be a way to figure it out. For instance, those in the know, know that the spirit of god CANNOT be earth, air, fire, or water, however, it CAN be the wind, but this to me is contradictory, for wind is created by the flames of the sun, but if there was no light before god spoke that first sentence of his, then how could the water exist in such a form as to be able to reflect the darkness?

In this department, I am an imovable object until I can at least see the light of HOW it all came to be.

In my mind, I see:

Darkness existed before the water. Water, most likely came from condensation. but condensation requires heat, which evaporate's water. Evaporated water is hence (theoretically) the spirit of god.

Here's the 'trick' - Imagine absolutely nothing. Not even a void.

Add Darkness. Now dya get it? Then add water. If nothing else exist's yet, how can the water be 'deep'? Perhap's it was the 'dark' that was deep..

How, in YOUR mind's eye, do you differentiate water from the dark that sit's on it? Now you see the light. For your mind's eye 'create's' the deviding 'line' making one darker than the other. If they appear the same, you still have that fine deviding line in your mind's eye. Just as the water appear's 'together' as opposed to spread out to infinity. For then you'd only 'see' darkness, as the water become's 'white' noise.

This 'line' between the Darkness and the Water, would be the 'spirit' of god, aka, the whorl, or in simple term's, wind.

Kinda leave's us in the middle of nowhere really, but this IS the point. Now produce life.

[Vod]

To think light happened 'approx' 4 billion years ago is as nonsensicle as the bible. To think land formed 1 billion years later is also nonsense, as for how solid meteorite's and comet's became h20.. I dont think so..

The water was contained in the ice on the meteorites and comets.  This is common knowledge.   

[Decksperiment]

And they came from..?? This is a test, not negotiable. If all there is, for this test, is water and dark?

[Vod]

And they came from..?? This is a test, not negotiable. If all there is, for this test, is water and dark?

If there was ever a time where only one thing existed, it was immediately after the Big Bang.

The only thing that existed at the time was hydrogen.

Everything you see now comes from the fusion of hydrogen into heavier elements.

[Decksperiment]

I know as much as the next man everything you could say that came after that let there be light, (big bang?) but your denying the test, me, I know the answer, you clearly do not, (yet) please stick to the test?