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December 11, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
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smooth is a different person than smoothie.

#learn2read

Learn to comprehend BCT, as you are labouring under a delusion. I was accusing "smooth" (not. smoothie, he's just paranoid) of underhandedly funding a rival coin of DASH which was Dashcoin to the tune of 200 XMR. Hence...BURN!!!


You were obviously talking to me when you said what you said below. Obviously you can't admit when you are wrong.  Roll Eyes


Hmm..looks like someone got to Peter! What a totally believable reversal of opinion! BTW I know you guys are not above hacking the accounts of trusted characters in the crypto-space. Remember the pro-Scamero Antonopoulos quote that he later denied, sayng that his account had been compromised? Checkmate.

Ad hominem attacks are only used by people not wanting to answer difficult questions imo. It's called deflection. But attacking-the-attacker is standard Monero goon-squad tactics, guys..you aren't fooling anyone. Scamero Undecided

lol the level of stupid in this thread from the dash supporters is EPIC!

It's like all the stupid people gravitate towards DASH.

 Cheesy

BTW he answered your question and addressed the issue you brought to the table but as always in CLASSIC DASHTARD RHETORIC you overlook the answer because it doesn't suit your agenda.  Tongue
Nope. I just don't trust the posts of someone who is known to have participated in co-ordinated FUD attacks by people known to be Monero shills, on what they think are their competitor coins. I have also witnessed you saying you were going to fund a "competitor" of DASH (DSH-Dashcoin) to the tune of 200 (!) XMR! Such underhand tactics and you are also a cheapskate, sir!

Link?

Proof?

I'm pretty sure I never said any thing like that. But let's see you flail around to find where I "said" that.

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December 11, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.140 Scroll down guys before he deletes it! Edit: don't worry I saved it

Here's a better link for you. No need to delete anything.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.msg11260838#msg11260838
Why not offer to give Evan some XMR as well, if you are so generous?

volyova....i think it is you should think this OVA (over)...you gave me an idea for a topic  Cool

i think i'll make a thread with minotaur26 (DASH team member) (business development) offered me in the forum an amount of dark and to be distributed to dashcoin community to silence dashcoin or bribe us....this will be fun  Grin  ...you are welcome there  Wink
I await the proof of your so-called "revelations" with baited breath. LOL it's easy to slander people with no evidence, but I know that that doesn't bother you. You'll prolly just post up a photo of some burned-up rats again....smh.

arielbit :-/

This coming from the guy who could not decipher "smooth" from "smoothie" when making accusations?  Cheesy

This is too funny.

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December 12, 2015, 03:20:22 AM
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That tweet is >1 year old. His opinion has changed since. Very reasonable thing for an intelligent person to do.

Maybe we should give his 2015 tweets a little more weight than his 2014 tweets.



"TheRektoning" is right.  The DashHoles will never get over the spanking PT gave them with that tweet.

DASH  Cry



Cherry on top: that tweet was Liked by @NickSzabo4.   Cool Cool Cool




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December 12, 2015, 04:46:13 AM
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There is no reason why Monero cannot add the same type of value to Dash pending the development of Dash Evolution, including the speeding up of Darksend and the blinding of the masternodes. I noted this on another thread.

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

Cross chain mixing using Monero does work right now.

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December 12, 2015, 04:50:16 AM
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There is no reason why Monero cannot add the same type of value to Dash pending the development of Dash Evolution, including the speeding up of Darksend and the blinding of the masternodes. I noted this on another thread.

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

Cross chain mixing using Monero does work right now.

The ironic thing is using your methodology also makes Dash useless as well.

People who are hard-core Dash fans can't do that because it would be like sacrilege and blasphemy to the church of Dashintology.

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Correct me if I am wrong but Monero is unable to reach the parity with BTC as long as the inflation of Monero is higher than the inflation of btc. Especially these days as the block reward of BTC is about to drop by 50 %.
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June 21, 2016, 05:31:54 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong but Monero is unable to reach the parity with BTC as long as the inflation of Monero is higher than the inflation of btc. Especially these days as the block reward of BTC is about to drop by 50 %.

I see your 0.0005 target was way off. Missed your chance to buy and now started reviving stupid dead threads?
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June 22, 2016, 12:53:39 PM
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The problem with monero is that it is not used much as a currency https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants the same thing happened to peercoin, hardly used for anything besides speculation.

It is hardly profitable for me to mine it desipite having 2x r9 290 and it is likely to get even worse as the blockreward continues to decrease, i am afraid the coin will end up in the hands of botnets.

I actually hate trading and i am never happy.
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June 22, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
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The problem with monero is that it is not used much as a currency https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants the same thing happened to peercoin, hardly used for anything besides speculation.

It is hardly profitable for me to mine it desipite having 2x r9 290 and it is likely to get even worse as the blockreward continues to decrease, i am afraid the coin will end up in the hands of botnets.

Why are you afraid of that? It is a best case use for a botnet. Securing freedom rather than causing damage. Or is it just for your personal income that will be affected?

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June 22, 2016, 05:19:49 PM
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Why are you afraid of that? It is a best case use for a botnet. Securing freedom rather than causing damage. Or is it just for your personal income that will be affected?
I am afraid that the tail emission wont be enough to secure the network, mining might be unprofitable for peoe that have to pay for electricity and then only botnets will mine it. Botnets can be both good and bad, the disadvantage is that mining for ordinary people will be less profitable.

I do think giant asic farms in china mining 70% is a lot worse of course.

I actually hate trading and i am never happy.
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The problem with monero is that it is not used much as a currency https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants the same thing happened to peercoin, hardly used for anything besides speculation.

It is hardly profitable for me to mine it desipite having 2x r9 290 and it is likely to get even worse as the blockreward continues to decrease, i am afraid the coin will end up in the hands of botnets.

Not used much as a currency? Did you miss all the post where people are talking about buying things with xmr.to? To make it short in that sense every shop that accepts bitcoin also accepts monero.
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The problem with monero is that it is not used much as a currency https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants the same thing happened to peercoin, hardly used for anything besides speculation.

It is hardly profitable for me to mine it desipite having 2x r9 290 and it is likely to get even worse as the blockreward continues to decrease, i am afraid the coin will end up in the hands of botnets.

Not used much as a currency? Did you miss all the post where people are talking about buying things with xmr.to? To make it short in that sense every shop that accepts bitcoin also accepts monero.

That was the main marketing innovation I saw from Monero's ecosystem. Even someone used that once to fund me.

It is befitting that Shapeshift.io copied you, given one of the threats Monero used to make when ever I would explain I wanted to work on my own experiments, was they being open source could just copy any thing that was valuable.

Btw, I was pitching the conceptual idea of XMR.to back in 2013 on BCT. It was one of the rebuttals I had for the Bitcoin maximalists. And yet again one of my ideas becomes a blockbuster success. You think I don't have a lot more of those ideas in my back pocket.
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I am selling all the XMR i mine, there is many problems with monero
-the transaction fee is insane(one million times higher in $ than XDN) which makes it very expensive to use high mixing number.
-relies on pure PoW for security.
-all wallets suck, you cant even have multiple addresses, garbage.
-no direct XMR to fiat exchange, almost no real world use.
-likely to be out competed by a superior altcoin(not enough network effect).

They are claiming that all other anonymous coins is scams which is bullshit, i does not really like dash but i would not consider it to be a scam. Digitalnote exists that offers a good wallet and the ability to send messages anonymously and will implement PoA.

There is nothing special about monero, it is getting pumped hard now but i doubt it will last, a lot of people are making money shorting it now.

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This is FUD from almost 2 years ago from notorious scammer BitcoinXpress, nothing ever happened btw...

no idea why this is being posted now?
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September 19, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
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I am selling all the XMR i mine, there is many problems with monero
-the transaction fee is insane(one million times higher in $ than XDN) which makes it very expensive to use high mixing number.
-relies on pure PoW for security.
-all wallets suck, you cant even have multiple addresses, garbage.
-no direct XMR to fiat exchange, almost no real world use.
-likely to be out competed by a superior altcoin(not enough network effect).

They are claiming that all other anonymous coins is scams which is bullshit, i does not really like dash but i would not consider it to be a scam. Digitalnote exists that offers a good wallet and the ability to send messages anonymously and will implement PoA.

There is nothing special about monero, it is getting pumped hard now but i doubt it will last, a lot of people are making money shorting it now.

- fee just got lowered with the new release
- bitcoin uses pow, better sell them all now...
- GUI is under active development and almost ready...
- yes there is: litebit for example, others will probably add xmr given the volume on polo for the last month...
- that's always possible, wouldn't say it's likely though, xmr has more network effect already than other anon coins, don't know why you're using this as an argument...


Dash is a proven premined scam btw... Will look up on digitalnote, thanks for the tip.

There is something special, it's fungible and it has actual utility now...

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This is FUD from almost 2 years ago from notorious scammer BitcoinXpress, nothing ever happened btw...

no idea why this is being posted now?

Just for laughs

Fudders will fud


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I am selling all the XMR i mine, there is many problems with monero
-the transaction fee is insane(one million times higher in $ than XDN) which makes it very expensive to use high mixing number.
-relies on pure PoW for security.
-all wallets suck, you cant even have multiple addresses, garbage.
-no direct XMR to fiat exchange, almost no real world use.
-likely to be out competed by a superior altcoin(not enough network effect).

They are claiming that all other anonymous coins is scams which is bullshit, i does not really like dash but i would not consider it to be a scam. Digitalnote exists that offers a good wallet and the ability to send messages anonymously and will implement PoA.

There is nothing special about monero, it is getting pumped hard now but i doubt it will last, a lot of people are making money shorting it now.
- fee just got lowered with the new release
- bitcoin uses pow, better sell them all now...
- that's always possible, wouldn't say it's likely though, xmr has more network effect already than other anon coins, don't know why you're using this as an argument...

Dash is a proven premined scam btw... Will look up on digitalnote, thanks for the tip.
The last transaction i did(was after the hardfork) costed me 0.01 XMR(0.7XMR, mixing 4) which is 0.1$ or 17000 satoshi, a typical XDN transfer costs 0.001XDN or 0.03 satoshi, having a high hardcoded transaction fee is very stupid.

Of course i know bitcoin uses PoW and this is also a good reason not to invest, the creators of the failed currency neucoin wrote a good paper about the problem with PoW http://www.neucoin.org/en/whitepaper/download XMR has tailed emission but the block reward also decreases more than twice as fast than for BTC.

I have seen the same thing over and ovef again, currencies that only focus on one issue(anonymity, PoS, multiple hashings, etc) tend to fail. Just offering good annonymity is not enough, the currency needs to be good overall and XMR is not a good coin in general.

This is not acceptable: https://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/advisories/csrf-vulnerability-allows-for-remote-compromise-of-monero-wallets

Dash is not premined, it was instamined in a dirty manner(which sucks) and i dont like it(not elegant enough) but i wouldn't call it a scam, it is still a very popular currency with real world usage.

I actually hate trading and i am never happy.
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September 22, 2016, 11:59:02 PM
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Funny monero, there's no need to get in this crap coin.
Monero supporters will keep trolling and fudding.  Cheesy .... coins without gui wallet are shit, accept that! or else.....get into other great coins rather than this piece of junk.
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September 23, 2016, 12:09:57 AM
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Funny monero, there's no need to get in this crap coin.
Monero supporters will keep trolling and fudding.  Cheesy .... coins without gui wallet are shit, accept that! or else.....get into other great coins rather than this piece of junk.


So many newbie accounts.

Does that mean once monero has a GUI it will not be shit?

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