[∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved!

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We are missing out on some lucky streak . Hopefully the prices drop on nice hash soon. Would we increase our chances of hitting a block possibly by having 5 different works at 100 TH each ?

Theoretically it shouldn't make any difference at all. However I cannot vouch for potential losses in a massive mining farm setup designed to channel PH hashrates through only a few workers. While I've personally written a proxy (and am still actively developing it to be something much bigger) I can't vouch for the proxies anyone else uses. This is nothing to do with whether it's rental or otherwise. My gut feeling is a massive farm (>1PH) is less likely to be as efficient and have the same amount of potential hash loss as a medium sized farm. It's hard to set up a good farm and the larger the farm, the harder it is - but it's not a given that whoever set it up won't have made it as efficient, it's only generic advice. As I've already said, no one with >1PH has ever found a block on this pool (except for the private Avalon farm that was mining here when I first opened the pool) whereas there have been heaps of blocks solved from 1->600TH miners.

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so a home miner at 10 cents  with 20 th and 10k makes 665 usd a month after power.

at 11 cents a kwatt  593
at 12 cents a kwatt  521
at 13 cents a kwatt  449
at 14 cents a kwatt  377
at 15 cents a kwatt  305
at 16 cents a kwatt  233
at 17 cents a kwatt  161
at 18 cents a kwatt   89
at 19 cents a kwatt   18

Averaging about 30c here how do you think I feel as a mining software developer that can't afford to mine?

[stevej]

so a home miner at 10 cents  with 20 th and 10k makes 665 usd a month after power.

at 11 cents a kwatt  593
at 12 cents a kwatt  521
at 13 cents a kwatt  449
at 14 cents a kwatt  377
at 15 cents a kwatt  305
at 16 cents a kwatt  233
at 17 cents a kwatt  161
at 18 cents a kwatt   89
at 19 cents a kwatt   18

Averaging about 30c here how do you think I feel as a mining software developer that can't afford to mine?

23.2 cents a kwh here in nz 
I still have one S3+ pointed at the solo pool though, hoping for the lucky block

[johnp]

Another lucky winner (already confirmed by an antpool block with no transactions in it)
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000728eb5b19b865b006288e4bf84c75b4abb4139beeccce43

1N8zFF9UiYejtjZHJpvr1S1NZC4iJLYeRX with ~100TH

Just woke up and looked at my PC and and there sitting in my wallet 24.9 coins what a good start to a rainy wet Monday, thanks ckpool.

[zapphood]

Wow, the next 2 Blocks. 

Congrats, another block for 1H5QBZ6GdZug2BNx6oRAi8GBCi4nuJARiK

And congrats to the user johnp 1N8zFF9UiYejtjZHJpvr1S1NZC4iJLYeRX

[BitcoinPappi]

We are missing out on some lucky streak . Hopefully the prices drop on nice hash soon. Would we increase our chances of hitting a block possibly by having 5 different works at 100 TH each ?

Theoretically it shouldn't make any difference at all. However I cannot vouch for potential losses in a massive mining farm setup designed to channel PH hashrates through only a few workers. While I've personally written a proxy (and am still actively developing it to be something much bigger) I can't vouch for the proxies anyone else uses. This is nothing to do with whether it's rental or otherwise. My gut feeling is a massive farm (>1PH) is less likely to be as efficient and have the same amount of potential hash loss as a medium sized farm. It's hard to set up a good farm and the larger the farm, the harder it is - but it's not a given that whoever set it up won't have made it as efficient, it's only generic advice. As I've already said, no one with >1PH has ever found a block on this pool (except for the private Avalon farm that was mining here when I first opened the pool) whereas there have been heaps of blocks solved from 1->600TH miners.

Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking along the same lines.

[jonnybravo0311]

While our group hasn't found a block yet... after the latest winner, I checked my own solo mining - a whopping 9G from 5 U2s.  That's when I saw this:



That's the best share I've ever seen from those little sticks.  Sure, it's nowhere close to finding a block, but it's not that bad, either.

Anyway, congrats to johnp and our latest 2-block winner!

[philipma1957]

We are missing out on some lucky streak . Hopefully the prices drop on nice hash soon. Would we increase our chances of hitting a block possibly by having 5 different works at 100 TH each ?

Theoretically it shouldn't make any difference at all. However I cannot vouch for potential losses in a massive mining farm setup designed to channel PH hashrates through only a few workers. While I've personally written a proxy (and am still actively developing it to be something much bigger) I can't vouch for the proxies anyone else uses. This is nothing to do with whether it's rental or otherwise. My gut feeling is a massive farm (>1PH) is less likely to be as efficient and have the same amount of potential hash loss as a medium sized farm. It's hard to set up a good farm and the larger the farm, the harder it is - but it's not a given that whoever set it up won't have made it as efficient, it's only generic advice. As I've already said, no one with >1PH has ever found a block on this pool (except for the private Avalon farm that was mining here when I first opened the pool) whereas there have been heaps of blocks solved from 1->600TH miners.

Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking along the same lines.

And we have about 5.5 btc left sitting idle.  

  I am also thinking to restructure  from the 200th west   800th nice spilt   .

to 1x 100 west  and 4x 100 nice.  I will pm all members.

[johnp]

Another lucky winner (already confirmed by an antpool block with no transactions in it)
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000728eb5b19b865b006288e4bf84c75b4abb4139beeccce43

1N8zFF9UiYejtjZHJpvr1S1NZC4iJLYeRX with ~100TH

Just woke up and looked at my PC and and there sitting in my wallet 24.9 coins what a good start to a rainy wet Monday, thanks ckpool.

For all those that have asked this was with rented hash from westhash, I have been trying for a few days and different hashrates and spent about 6btc.

Good return

[727miner]

While our group hasn't found a block yet... after the latest winner, I checked my own solo mining - a whopping 9G from 5 U2s.  That's when I saw this:



That's the best share I've ever seen from those little sticks.  Sure, it's nowhere close to finding a block, but it's not that bad, either.

Anyway, congrats to johnp and our latest 2-block winner!

That's cool, I have a single NanoFury pointed here and noticed it pulled a 600M share the other day..you never know...

[727miner]

Another lucky winner (already confirmed by an antpool block with no transactions in it)
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000728eb5b19b865b006288e4bf84c75b4abb4139beeccce43

1N8zFF9UiYejtjZHJpvr1S1NZC4iJLYeRX with ~100TH

Just woke up and looked at my PC and and there sitting in my wallet 24.9 coins what a good start to a rainy wet Monday, thanks ckpool.

For all those that have asked this was with rented hash from westhash, I have been trying for a few days and different hashrates and spent about 6btc.

Good return

Congrats johnp!

[philipma1957]

so a home miner at 10 cents  with 20 th and 10k makes 665 usd a month after power.

at 11 cents a kwatt  593
at 12 cents a kwatt  521
at 13 cents a kwatt  449
at 14 cents a kwatt  377
at 15 cents a kwatt  305
at 16 cents a kwatt  233
at 17 cents a kwatt  161
at 18 cents a kwatt   89
at 19 cents a kwatt   18

Averaging about 30c here how do you think I feel as a mining software developer that can't afford to mine?

yeah has to kill you.   I may ramp up in Oct when 1 drop to 13c - 3c for heating benefits = 10c    So for now it is something to look forward to.  but at 30c not going to happen.

[philipma1957]

 about restructure I have 5 yes votes and 0 no votes.  Since this is a certain tie at worst (10 in the club) and I would be the tie breaker I am going  to cancel the 200th and 800th.  get our 5.5 btc back

and do 1x 100th = 100th at westhash  and 4x 100th = 400th at nicehash.

I will send pm's to all of us.

the 800th is cancelled see below  4.59 + 0.142 fee

[thedreamer]

It's a yes from me, I just can't reply to the pm group. Lol

[philipma1957]

It's a yes from me, I just can't reply to the pm group. Lol

 two orders cancelled.  I will  start new ones

[thedreamer]

Plz let us all know if there is anything extra needed to be kicked in for all the work you're doing. Thanks

[philipma1957]

For now I don't want fees.  I am trying to get the idea of a pool within a pool or a club within a pool at no extra cost to help people with higher power still mine at home.
I am not anti cloud services, but so far while not perfect the nice-west hash model appears best. 
 Hey I am 18 cents a kwatt until OCT 1st  renting at nice-west point it here point it at kano appears to be my only option for the next 120 days or so. I am not the only one in this boat

the new orders are below

5 for 100th 1 is at westhash  4 are at nicehash

[pepto]

100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.

Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).

Reading onward from here does not make me happy. 

[philipma1957]

100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.

Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).

Reading onward from here does not make me happy.  

yeah it is a bit discouraging but   we now have 5 orders at 100th  ready to start.  and we have the bonus 5th fixed order I paid for.

At least more then 5.49 btc is left of the 10 btc  so I like to think the glass is more then ½ full.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y

Just kicked in:

{"hashrate1m": "178T", "hashrate5m": "58.4T", "hashrate1hr": "10.4T", "hashrate1d": "80.3T", "hashrate7d": "50.3T", "lastupdate": 1431968973, "workers": 10,"bestshare": 511,201,189.7977441}

[jonnybravo0311]

100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.

Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).

Reading onward from here does not make me happy. 

Unfortunately it's a risk you take when renting gear.  You are trusting the hardware owner to not have any malicious intent.  You are trusting any proxy they've implemented to be properly written and not malicious.  You're trusting any mining software they're using to be properly written and not malicious.  You're trusting the rental site to not have anything screwed up in their redirecting software.

Why nobody who's rented more than 1PH/s has ever found a block here is unknown.  It could be as simple as crap luck, or as unfortunate as those large rental providers acting maliciously.  You'd have to dump a whole ton of coin into those rentals to even get a glimpse of a hint that something is potentially amiss.  Even then, the rig owner could potentially be covering his tracks very well and actually only withholding a portion of block solving shares so it would look like nothing more than relatively bad luck.