goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:30:00 PM |
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A tip for people reposting deleted posts from BA: in your PM telling you that your post was deleted, click the "Reply with quote" link on the right (open in a new tab) and then copy it from there and paste here. This will allow the formating to be the same as the original post.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:30:14 PM |
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LOL Minersource is claiming that I flame and threaten them on the forums. This is hilarious. Would anyone care to show me an example of a post I've made that was flaming/threatening towards minersource? Oh, maybe I shouldn't make this post since it can be considered threatening, right? Lmao.. What a joke. If I'm gonna be accused of such actions then maybe I should live up to the accusations.. But that would be childish and I won't stoop to their level. This company seems to enjoy making enemies. See update.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:30:28 PM |
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goozman96 can I make a suggestion chap just walk away then your clear and no one can accuse you of jack just a bit of friendly advice as I have loved reading your posts here and ecoin, not meant to be rude in any way shape or form go in peace ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Indeed. I just have a knack for alerting people to the situation. I just thought that it was quite novel to be accused of such things when I consider myself probably the most civil of their disgruntled customers. Still interested in seeing where I physically threatened anyone. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) See update.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:30:43 PM |
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I'd recommend everyone to submit a trust rating for blackarrow's website. Install Web Of Trust if you don't already have it. Go to blackarrowsoftware.com Click the WOT icon. Rate it. I gave them the lowest rating and chose the options "poor customer experience" and "scam"
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:30:54 PM |
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Got an email back from Minersource.
Should I get added to the refund queue and wait it out, or get MS store credit immediately to get potentially a Rocket Box in a few days?
What you guys think?
It's funny how when I requested to have some Dragons or SP-10s sent to me in lieu of the X-3, they said that they can't do hardware exchanges and instead gave me a reduced value refund.See update.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:31:10 PM |
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Got an email back from Minersource.
Should I get added to the refund queue and wait it out, or get MS store credit immediately to get potentially a Rocket Box in a few days?
What you guys think?
It's funny how when I requested to have some Dragons or SP-10s sent to me in lieu of the X-3, they said that they can't do hardware exchanges and instead gave me a reduced value refund. You really need to file a complaint here, http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx. There is no way that will hold up in court. Done. Feels much better now. We'll see if anything ever comes of it.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:31:24 PM |
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Nice to see others get treated better by Minersource. When I requested my $4800 refund, Dan Murtha told me no and only gave me $3600. When I requested replacement hardware, Dan Murtha told me no, they can't offer replacement hardware. When I posted about my displeasure on the forum, Dan Murtha said I flame and threaten them and don't want anymore of my business. And now, they're giving people USD valued refunds (refused to honor for me) and giving store credit/replacement hardware (also refused to honor for me). So forgive me, Dan Murtha, if I "flame" you for treating me worse than your other customers. Minersource will forever be on my shit list until they right the wrong they did towards me. See update.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:31:36 PM |
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@terrapinflyer I think you got singled out by BA because your negative trust feedback actually has teeth since you're on the default trust list, thus giving BA that red text under their name. I feel like you should check your legal options and perhaps get a subpeona from a court to force bitcointalk to remove your private information in your trust feedback.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:31:48 PM |
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I got a Dragon Miner (1TH/s) for $1500 + shipping. Suck it, Blackarrow.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:32:05 PM |
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And since you choose to delete my older posts, I will keep posting them as well. Like I said, keep deleting my posts; I'll keep reposting them and they get more exposure. It's not hard for me to copy and paste.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:32:26 PM |
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I just left a delicious negative trust feedback for black arrow. Cheesy The best part? HE CAN'T DELETE IT!
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:32:37 PM |
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Quote from: bobsag3 on August 03, 2014, 05:48:38 PM Quote from: DebitMe on August 03, 2014, 05:47:12 PM So now on top of their utter incompetence and failure, one of two scenarios is happening...
One, either they have sold your email to a third party company, which they probably made a lot of money on as a targeted list of emails associated with people who they know have purchased bitcoin miners, will be pretty expensive. Or Two, they have spent the last couple of months developing a mew company/brand as anything that has to do with BA is synonymous with fail and utter incompetence. They have developed slightly different looking cases and are trying to sell products with the same specs as the X-3 to you.
Either way, Bobsag you need to confirm as to whether email addresses from purchases through you have been given to BA?
Nope. Then how come I received an email from black arrow not too long ago about a production update? I never ordered from black arrow. And plus, this was after I had already received my refund and settled my situation. Is it possible that they simply sent that one email to everyone who had registered on ecointalk.net?
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:32:47 PM |
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That is a scam site. See my post in the scam accusations thread. They are offering the 1TH version for BTC1.5, which is much lower than anywhere legitimate. I've been reading these things are being delivered, is this not the actual site? Have they been delivered from that website? They link to a video of Jack from LightningAsics and I confirmed with Jack that that is not his site. That, plus the super cheap price and no acceptance of credit cards or PayPal (a reversible form of payment) leads me to be highly skeptical of that site at the very least. Also, the social media links at the top simply go to the homepages of those sites. I'd contact susan.wu1989@163.com Skype: susan.wu1989 And see if their name is Jin..
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:32:59 PM |
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I never received an email from XBTec. Perhaps because I ordered from Minersource. However, I did receive that one email from Black Arrow about an update not too long ago, so I'm guessing Minersource had passed my email to Black Arrow. Interesting situation indeed..
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:33:09 PM |
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Quote from: blackarrow on July 29, 2014, 11:20:06 PM Quote Quote from: greenlion on July 29, 2014, 10:37:19 PM I'm sorry, but this is just a little too convenient that all of a sudden certain support logins don't work and won't even process a password reset. There is no way that I'm messaging my order information just so you can make good on your earlier threats denying the full compensation. Everything is a conspiration for you ... The IPS's DNS is down. Can you please try now? We switched to google's dns. The only person here who is conspiratorial is you, for thinking that anyone who speaks negatively of the infallible, impeccable and omnipotent blackarrow must be getting paid by a competitor. No competitor would pay others to speak negatively of you because your reputation is well known. Other companies are selling their product without needing to shit talk the shit stain of a company Merlion Holdings aka Blackarrow aka Alexandru Ion Sovu - international criminal. And I fucking dare you to delete this. I'll repost it a million times.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:33:29 PM |
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Quote from: terrapinflyer on July 29, 2014, 03:23:29 PM Quote from: blackarrow on July 29, 2014, 03:11:24 PM Quote from: Mattster28 on July 29, 2014, 02:47:20 PM Why would a competitor need to try and keep customers away from you? You are doing a DAMN GOOD job of that yourself. We have always been upfront and never lied to our customers. We always kept them up to date with what is going on. Regards! I almost fell out of my chair. Thank you for leaving this scumbag negative feedback. Finally someone on the default trust list leaving negative feedback is good to see. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:33:46 PM |
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I will keep posting. Keep deleting me. We'll see who gets tired first. I would like to see someone take legal action against these toddler engineers and management at black arrow. Perhaps that guy who is out 25k? Keep us posted. Everyone should read blackarrow's trust feedback. It's funny. The more they delete this message, the more exposure it gets, because more people will see it. Alex fucking Sovu should familiarize himself with the Streisand Effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effectPetition for blackarrow to be on default negative trust list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712294.msg8045959#msg8045959
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:33:56 PM |
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Quote from: btmtb on August 04, 2014, 03:29:13 AM I asked xbtec what the deal connection is and they said: Quote "Hello there, 1. We have tried to work as the resellers of Black Arrow in Russia but rapidly understood that they are can not produce their hardware in time and stopped all the relations. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/reseller-status-of-xbtek-has-been-canceled.html2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you. Sorry for inconvenience." (I've added the emphasis) WHAT. THE. FUCK. Explain yourself Black Arrow. They're in serious breach of their own terms and conditions, along with the data protection laws of most civilised country's: Quote "Personal Data 14.1 Personal data provided to Us within the framework of an order for Products will be recorded and processed by Us and may also be transferred to the third party providers (such as hosting providers or payment processing providers) for the execution of the order for Products. The Purchaser hereby consents to such processing of personal data. We are the personal data controller for the personal data that We process. We shall take appropriate technical and organizational measures to protect the Purchasers personal data. You at any time contact Us to receive more information about Our processing of your personal data and to correct any inaccurate personal information. Do we disclose any information to outside parties? We do not sell, trade, or otherwise transfer to outside parties your personally identifiable information. This does not include trusted third parties who assist us in operating our website, conducting our business, or servicing you, so long as those parties agree to keep this information confidential. We may also release your information when we believe release is appropriate to comply with the law, enforce our site policies, or protect ours or others rights, property, or safety. However, non-personally identifiable visitor information may be provided to other parties for marketing, advertising, or other uses." Let's be clear, this company have no get-out under the 'conducting our business or servicing you' as this applies to the execution of the trade in question, such as releasing addresses to the delivery company (DHL/UPS etc) and payment processors for the transactions. This just never ends. I really hope someone sues blackarrow into oblivion. Never have I been so disgusted by a single company.
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goozman96
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August 08, 2014, 10:34:09 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecointalk.net%2Fuploads%2Fgallery%2Falbum_56%2Fgallery_5_56_19295.jpg&t=665&c=L5Y28Ds4su-x0w) and this is maybe the big surprise? we can play angry birds while hashing? From the looks of it, they're running Android Honeycomb ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Black Arrow: Staying ahead of the curve...
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