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 September 26, 2018, 01:39:55 PM

As per the Help->Luck page, 1 in 2.7 blocks are 'expected', on average, to be over 100%, but currently 1 in the last 13 is pretty good
or even 2 in the last 18 - both stats including the current un-found block.

do you have somewhere calculation on the expected block time under current Difficulty and Pool Hashrate?

In case you didn't see it in Kano's post, this is the calculator to use... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

The daily expected bitcoins for 210PH/s is 7.38273408 and divide that by 12.5 gives us 0.59 Blocks/day.  That is roughly a block expected every 2 days (1.69 days) at the current diff and pool hashrate.  We are well ahead of this pace for September.

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 September 26, 2018, 02:19:23 PM

Block by BlockBadger! The blocks just keep coming!

This is our 1st of BLOCK WEDNESDAY!

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 September 26, 2018, 02:20:03 PM

Block!

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 September 26, 2018, 02:34:31 PM

Woot!  BlockBadger hits one, and I'm just about to head out to Wisconsin for a long weekend, so actually double WOOT!!
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 September 26, 2018, 03:19:22 PM

In case you didn't see it in Kano's post, this is the calculator to use... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

The daily expected bitcoins for 210PH/s is 7.38273408 and divide that by 12.5 gives us 0.59 Blocks/day.  That is roughly a block expected every 2 days (1.69 days) at the current diff and pool hashrate.  We are well ahead of this pace for September.

yea, i saw that, but it would be nice to see that expectation on the top of pool here:
Last    Block
Pool:     53m (543172) (Expected: 42 hours)
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In case you didn't see it in Kano's post, this is the calculator to use... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

The daily expected bitcoins for 210PH/s is 7.38273408 and divide that by 12.5 gives us 0.59 Blocks/day.  That is roughly a block expected every 2 days (1.69 days) at the current diff and pool hashrate.  We are well ahead of this pace for September.

yea, i saw that, but it would be nice to see that expectation on the top of pool here:
Last    Block
Pool:     53m (543172) (Expected: 42 hours)

I always expect the next block to be found within the next 10 Minutes.... ;-)

there is plenty of information on the site to make an educated guess... and the number will always be wrong...
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 September 26, 2018, 03:32:21 PM

I've been getting a blank page stating "Too many accesses please try again later"

It's been that way for about 2-3 hours now.

Account is Luggyman.

is this to be expected? Front end down?

I wasn't refreshing like crazy or anything like that.

Thanks!
That ban cuts in pretty quickly.
Ban cleared.

Gotcha. Thanks man!
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 September 27, 2018, 01:07:00 AM

As I mentioned in Discord ...

The NYA node has still been showing a lot of disconnects since the provider did maintenance on it.
So I've created a new NYA node with a different provider.

nya.kano.is now points to the new node

This wont affect any mining other than: if your miner disconnects from NYA and reconnects, it will connect to the new NYA node.

I'll force a failover to the new node in about a day if miners are still pointed at the old node.
This will simply be to stop the old node accepting miners and then everyone still on the old node will reconnect to the new node.

Mine on!
So far there's only been a few % of workers that have reconnected to the new node, a lot less than I expected after the number of times it was showing miners disconnecting the other day.

Anyway, at 01:00 UTC (in a bit over 13.5 hours) I'll push everyone left on the old node over to the new node.
There's nothing for anyone to do, it will just be a failover off the old node for miners still pointing to the old NYA node and failback immediately to the new NYA node.
Of course, any miners already switched to the new NYA node will just continue mining uninterrupted.

Everyone else will be unaffected.
Done at 01:00:01 UTC

All NYA miners have switched to the new node now.

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 September 27, 2018, 02:04:35 AM

Done at 01:00:01 UTC

All NYA miners have switched to the new node now.
Great work, great pool!

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 September 27, 2018, 04:35:50 AM

just started with kano pool almost 48 hours ago with just 1 of my miners to test the waters - we hit a block after around 70 hours, as I was not there for all the shifts I expect that is why my payout was so low - in other pools this one miner would have made 10x the amount in 2 days. I am hoping that with participation in all the shifts for the next block that I will earn a higher reward to make it worthwhile. If I do well enough here, I will bring my other asics over.

anyways, I just wanted to say hello and hoping this pool works out good for me!

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 September 27, 2018, 04:45:40 AM

just started with kano pool almost 48 hours ago with just 1 of my miners to test the waters - we hit a block after around 70 hours, as I was not there for all the shifts I expect that is why my payout was so low - in other pools this one miner would have made 10x the amount in 2 days. I am hoping that with participation in all the shifts for the next block that I will earn a higher reward to make it worthwhile. If I do well enough here, I will bring my other asics over.

anyways, I just wanted to say hello and hoping this pool works out good for me!
Yep the thing to remember is the PPLNS here N=5Nd

That's also explained on Help->Payouts on the web site.

The most relevant part to your 'hope' is:
"The 5Nd means it takes that long to reward your shares.
The ramp isn't missing rewards, it's delaying them to reduce variance.
Each share is rewarded in all the blocks found in the 5Nd after the share."

So when you stop mining you will still have rewards due in the 5Nd of blocks after you stop.

This diagram might also help:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg26608107#msg26608107

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 September 27, 2018, 05:41:53 AM

just started with kano pool almost 48 hours ago with just 1 of my miners to test the waters - we hit a block after around 70 hours, as I was not there for all the shifts I expect that is why my payout was so low - in other pools this one miner would have made 10x the amount in 2 days. I am hoping that with participation in all the shifts for the next block that I will earn a higher reward to make it worthwhile. If I do well enough here, I will bring my other asics over.

anyways, I just wanted to say hello and hoping this pool works out good for me!
Yep the thing to remember is the PPLNS here N=5Nd

That's also explained on Help->Payouts on the web site.

The most relevant part to your 'hope' is:
"The 5Nd means it takes that long to reward your shares.
The ramp isn't missing rewards, it's delaying them to reduce variance.
Each share is rewarded in all the blocks found in the 5Nd after the share."

So when you stop mining you will still have rewards due in the 5Nd of blocks after you stop.

This diagram might also help:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg26608107#msg26608107

yes, but as I was not there for the full 70 some odd hours (not in the beginning) my share of shares is lower percentage wise than it would have been had I been mining the full time, right? either way, my miner has been connected for all the shifts since last block found and will remain so until the next block is found. we can go from there.

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 September 27, 2018, 08:23:25 AM

Block! by Canaan

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 September 27, 2018, 08:24:50 AMLast edit: September 27, 2018, 01:02:02 PM by sergw

Block! yea    this is 23rd block in Sep, and 4 days left to go     great luck.
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 September 27, 2018, 11:05:53 AM

I love waking up to a sub-100% diff block!

Today's gonna be a good day.

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 September 27, 2018, 12:18:07 PM

I love waking up to a sub-100% diff block!

Today's gonna be a good day.

Yep, my favorite way to start each day!

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 September 27, 2018, 12:53:18 PM

great i see we found another block! the second one in 3 days. I am using only one s9 at 13.5 th/s in this pool and for the most recent block my reward was .00015387. I want to stay in this pool but i am not sure it would be profitable vs other pools as in other pools my block reward is about .00004 per s9 and getting on average of 10 blocks per day so that would be .0004 on average per day per miner. without 4 blocks a day on average I dont see how I can make the same as the other pools i belong to - and i have my s9's spread out as I am participating in 5-6 pools at a time.

am I looking at this wrong? is there higher profits in a small pool or a in a large pool? I get that the rewards are less frequent but larger and the latest reward was close to 4 times what the other pool is paying per block, the difference is the other pool is finding 10+ blocks per day so I am getting more rewards, although smaller. I see this is the 23rd block in the month, if i had been here the entire month, those rewards would be approx the same as about 100 block rewards on the other pool - but in the same time period with the other pool, I might have 230 block rewards. so seems like it is only half as profitable here for me --- at least with 1 miner.

I may need to bring over all my miners to be a larger % to make it worthwhile.

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 September 27, 2018, 01:17:58 PM

great i see we found another block! the second one in 3 days. I am using only one s9 at 13.5 th/s in this pool and for the most recent block my reward was .00015387. I want to stay in this pool but i am not sure it would be profitable vs other pools as in other pools my block reward is about .00004 per s9 and getting on average of 10 blocks per day so that would be .0004 on average per day per miner. without 4 blocks a day on average I dont see how I can make the same as the other pools i belong to - and i have my s9's spread out as I am participating in 5-6 pools at a time.

am I looking at this wrong? is there higher profits in a small pool or a in a large pool? I get that the rewards are less frequent but larger and the latest reward was close to 4 times what the other pool is paying per block, the difference is the other pool is finding 10+ blocks per day so I am getting more rewards, although smaller. I see this is the 23rd block in the month, if i had been here the entire month, those rewards would be approx the same as about 100 block rewards on the other pool - but in the same time period with the other pool, I might have 230 block rewards. so seems like it is only half as profitable here for me --- at least with 1 miner.

I may need to bring over all my miners to be a larger % to make it worthwhile.
If you had been ramped up, the last block would have been around 0.0008732.  If you want to see what you would have made with your miners, you can plug in your hash rates at https://minergain.com/?btcstats.  I am not sure if minergain is tracking your current pool.  Be aware that I have a bug where the slush blocks are not always subtracting the 2% pool fees but kano always is removing the .9%. The pool fees being subtracted from the block is deep in my monitoring code so a little tricky to find.

So for Kano, a single S9 would have received around 0.0199557, 0.0141996 for slush and 0.0150200 for viabtc.  After removing some additional fees for slush due to my bug (and viabtc is new, so maybe there too), this month definitely was higher.  Obviously the small pool allows us to be much higher and much lower in a month.  Fortunately we are nowhere near as small as we were 6 months ago where we were about 1/4 the size (and really big payouts).

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 September 27, 2018, 01:32:26 PM

If you had been ramped up, the last block would have been around 0.0008732.  If you want to see what you would have made with your miners, you can plug in your hash rates at https://minergain.com/?btcstats.  I am not sure if minergain is tracking your current pool.  Be aware that I have a bug where the slush blocks are not always subtracting the 2% pool fees but kano always is removing the .9%. The pool fees being subtracted from the block is deep in my monitoring code so a little tricky to find.

So for Kano, a single S9 would have received around 0.0199557, 0.0141996 for slush and 0.0150200 for viabtc.  After removing some additional fees for slush due to my bug (and viabtc is new, so maybe there too), this month definitely was higher.  Obviously the small pool allows us to be much higher and much lower in a month.  Fortunately we are nowhere near as small as we were 6 months ago where we were about 1/4 the size (and really big payouts).

what do you mean by ramped up? because .0008 is considerably more than the .00015387 that I did get. I participated in each shift for the last block. below is what the reward screen shows me.

543272   2018-Sep-27 08:22   12.45837645   35.812T   207hr 14m 32s   206.16PHs    0.00%   442.335M    2.55THs           0.00015387

and the shift screen shows sorry I know that it doesnt paste well:
Shift   Start UTC   Length   Your Diff   Inv Diff   Avg Hs   Shares   Avg Share   Rewards   Rewarded*   PPS%
awzno origami    Sep‑27 08:05:39   17m 10s   3.214M   36.243k   13.40THs   266   12,081.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awzkn nodoka   Sep‑27 07:14:08   51m 31s   10.414M   36.243k   14.47THs   862   12,081.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awzdm mutsumi   Sep‑27 06:24:17   49m 51s   9.351M   60.405k   13.43THs   774   12,081.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awz7r lucy   Sep‑27 05:33:55   50m 22s   9.011M   27.162k   12.81THs   816   11,042.32   1   0.03479   19.91%
awyzu kosaki   Sep‑27 04:44:34   49m 21s   6.616M   8.196k   9.60THs   700   9,451.04   1   0.03479   19.91%
awyu3 juvia   Sep‑27 03:54:19   50m 15s   9.231M   0   13.15THs   715   12,910.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awyo6 ichiko   Sep‑27 03:04:04   50m 15s   9.515M   12.910k   13.55THs   737   12,910.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awyga hitagi   Sep‑27 02:11:33   52m 31s   9.476M   12.910k   12.92THs   734   12,910.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awya5 gin   Sep‑27 01:21:19   50m 14s   10.147M   51.640k   14.46THs   786   12,910.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awy4a frey   Sep‑27 00:31:04   50m 15s   8.882M   169.426k   12.65THs   828   10,726.77   1   0.03479   19.91%
awxwc elen   Sep‑26 23:39:08   51m 56s   9.958M   35.229k   13.72THs   848   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awxq9 daisy   Sep‑26 22:49:25   49m 43s   9.782M   23.486k   14.08THs   833   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awxjf charlotte   Sep‑26 21:56:57   52m 28s   9.242M   0   12.61THs   787   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awxca belldandy   Sep‑26 21:05:43   51m 14s   9.852M   23.486k   13.77THs   839   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awx6b ako   Sep‑26 20:15:18   50m 25s   8.913M   35.229k   12.65THs   759   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awwyd zekken   Sep‑26 19:26:11   49m 7s   9.641M   0   14.05THs   821   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awwsn yuno   Sep‑26 18:34:38   51m 33s   10.310M   0   14.32THs   878   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awwmk xenovia   Sep‑26 17:44:04   50m 33s   9.770M   35.229k   13.83THs   832   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awweo wakaba   Sep‑26 16:51:32   52m 33s   10.486M   0   14.29THs   893   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
aww8h valentina   Sep‑26 15:59:54   51m 38s   10.404M   0   14.42THs   886   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
aww2f ur   Sep‑26 15:08:01   51m 53s   9.688M   11.743k   13.37THs   825   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%
awvuc tenshi   Sep‑26 14:18:06   49m 55s   9.911M   35.229k   14.21THs   844   11,743.00   1   0.03479   19.91%

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...
543272   2018-Sep-27 08:22   12.45837645   35.812T   207hr 14m 32s   206.16PHs    0.00%   442.335M    2.55THs           0.00015387
...
As it says, we rewarded every share for the last 207hrs
Since you weren't mining for 207hrs, your fraction of the reward was lower.
e.g. if you mined for 100hrs then your reward would be about half of the fully ramped up reward.
24hrs then your reward would be about one eighth of the fully ramped up reward.

Also, it's not 1 shift, it's 207hrs of shifts for that reward.
The actual length is 5Nd+a bit, and the amount of time depends on the pool hash rate and the current network difficulty.
On the shift page, all the shifts rewarded goes down to the red line you can see by clicking the link above the shift list.

As I explained above, the pool uses 5Nd for the N in PPLNS
So your reward will take 5Nd to reach it's expected value for the hash rate.
It's not losing reward, it's spreading it out over 5Nd in the future.
At the moment 5Nd is a bit over 8 days (~207hrs)

Again have a look at this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg26608107#msg26608107

If you leave today, you will still get rewards for all blocks found in the next 5Nd which is currently ~8 days.

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