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September 01, 2015, 12:56:04 AM
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now all we need is a block found i cant wait.

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September 01, 2015, 04:20:37 AM
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N value crosses backwards over block boundaries right?
Yes the N boundaries are shift boundaries.

I guess what I meant was, when a block is hit, does the window of time/shares/shifts that determines how the payout is split go all the way back 5x difficulty all the time or is that a maximum? I think it's all the time but I wanted to check.

A follow up is if "5x difficulty" is 5x the difficulty the block was hit at, the expected difficulty, or something else? Or is it calculated using shifts somehow?

I was thinking there is a 500% "wide" window stretching back 500% from the time a block is hit (500% = 5x expected difficulty to solve block based on network difficulty), and that's the N shares, but I wanted to check if this is how it works. Wasn't sure if hitting a block at 50% meant the window was 250% back, for instance. Or if 500% was a Max value but the window only goes back to beginning of block.
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September 01, 2015, 04:25:37 AM
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I guess what I meant was, even a block is hit, does the window of time/shares/shifts that determines how the payout is split go all the way back 5x difficulty all the time or is that a maximum? I think it's all the time but I wanted to check.

A follow up is if "5x difficulty" is 5x the difficulty the block was hit at, the expected difficulty, or something else? Or is it calculated using shifts somehow?
All the time, and the network difficulty at the time the block is hit by using shifts.

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September 01, 2015, 04:28:26 AM
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I guess what I meant was, even a block is hit, does the window of time/shares/shifts that determines how the payout is split go all the way back 5x difficulty all the time or is that a maximum? I think it's all the time but I wanted to check.

A follow up is if "5x difficulty" is 5x the difficulty the block was hit at, the expected difficulty, or something else? Or is it calculated using shifts somehow?
All the time, and the network difficulty at the time the block is hit by using shifts.

OK thanks.

Edit: I see a lot of this is answered on the help page. Sorry for asking questions already answered. For some reason what is written there didn't exactly click for me, but I get it now.
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September 01, 2015, 06:25:41 AM
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Understandable, but also a misunderstanding of statistics.



So with other words, fuck the big guys like antpool and tonight I will move al my Ths's to CKpool!?!
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September 01, 2015, 11:12:27 AM
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I like this pool...

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September 01, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
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Looks like it's time to get the chickens ready    Cheesy
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September 01, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
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Looks like it's time to get the chickens ready    Cheesy

Sharpen up the cutlery! Cheesy
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September 01, 2015, 05:52:40 PM
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woohoo!  I found a block with a 10TH rental Smiley


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September 01, 2015, 06:03:26 PM
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woohoo!  I found a block with a 10TH rental Smiley

Excellent! Where did you rent from?
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September 01, 2015, 06:08:37 PM
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woohoo!  I found a block with a 10TH rental Smiley

Excellent! Where did you rent from?

This rental was from Nice Hash and was only active for the last 5 shifts. Just got lucky.


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September 01, 2015, 06:17:18 PM
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woohoo!  I found a block with a 10TH rental Smiley

Excellent! Where did you rent from?

This rental was from Nice Hash and was only active for the last 5 shifts. Just got lucky.

Cool, good deal  Cheesy
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September 01, 2015, 06:18:03 PM
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woohoo!  I found a block with a 10TH rental Smiley

Nice. Now let's hit some bright green!
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September 01, 2015, 07:26:28 PM
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If anyone joined during that 666.666% block they'd probably never want to come back ever again Smiley
Understandable, but also a misunderstanding of statistics.
So with other words, fuck the big guys like antpool and tonight I will move al my Ths's to CKpool!?!

As long as you can tolerate dry spells, yes!

There are subtleties related to non-stationarity - e.g., during periods of extremely rapid difficulty increase it can be disadvantageous to be at a smaller pool growing more slowly than the network - but being at a small pool mostly just means you need a longer time horizon for your earnings to converge to the expected value.

Smaller pools also bring a better chance of "exciting feeling" lucky spells, of course Wink

And remember:

All I can say is that the controllable elements, outside luck, that do affect the pool's 'luck' calculation, are better controlled here than most other pools, and the long term luck and orphan history suggests that is true.

So go for it!
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September 01, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
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OK, my English is probably that bad so I had to use google translate for your explanation to understand.

Eventhough I moved al my Ths's to CKpool this evening and we'll see!

Let's swim!
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September 02, 2015, 10:15:16 AM
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Payout 372550 sent a bit over an hour ago
5287da85b0de0424ae4f1cfc0dc96cfc8061047b29ecd5b3908ace6a11bf4f5c
and confirmed just now

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Another ckdb restart (just now)
As usual, all miners were unaffected.
Just a fix to the rewards counter on the shifts page - it wasn't incrementing the counter for the last shift under certain conditions.
No effect or problem with the payout of course, the payout calculation wasn't changed in any of the recent changes.
Just a fix for the code that increments the 'rewards' number since a shift can (often) be created after a payout is done.
(the payout code handles this, but the reward counter code didn't until this fix)

If anyone is curious Smiley
https://bitbucket.org/ckolivas/ckpool/commits/369274b5215fbb5c5f8bd589a7eb3ad72e842bd7

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September 02, 2015, 10:22:42 AM
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What happend to the pool's web??  Undecided

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September 02, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
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What happend to the pool's web??  Undecided
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg12307083#msg12307083

Though restart has completed now anyway.

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September 02, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
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ok, excuseme...   Roll Eyes

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September 02, 2015, 12:45:31 PM
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Block!?

I'd love to fire up the grill and grab some cold frosty beverages for a block party. Make it happen!
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