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September 12, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
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Not all the spikes seem to apply at the same time. But some does, so it doesn't seem like a single unit, but not always the same either. I have that with my S5, maybe you have a combination thereof?

Maybe if you tell us what miners they are it could help shedding some light.

The big one is you blatantly losing connection for a few minutes however.
On the graph:
Big one is S5+ single unit
S4 single unit
SP20 multiple units in operation single unit shown
S5 same as SP20

I am thinking network because I am not pulling 50 amps continuously and I am sized well under 70%. #2 copper runs from the main to the house to a 125 amp sub panel. It is ran inside liquidtight. Good stuff. I have checked all connections and measured solid line voltage, always slightly higher by a small percentage. No fluxuations my fluke can pick up, and it isn't a scope so there is a ton you cant see with a meter.


Well all I could suggest is to run some sort of network monitoring to see if your network is dropping out.
I'm not a windows fan so I've no idea what to use for that.

I (or course) run a linux box (using pppoe) as my network connection at home so I see when my network drops out and reconnects - and that matches the times when my miners drop out and reconnect. I force this once a day, but it often happens at other times also.
In my case it's just the way it is with my ADSL connection (last night from 10pm to 4am it happened 6 times ... only one of those was my daily reconnect by design ... that was the worst number in a long time)

There could of course be other reasons, but e.g. if it was the miner dropping the connection you'd need to monitor that somehow in the miner.


I am leaning towards net, I loaded a couple of things like wireshark but I haven't seen anything obvious. I will need to be more familiar with the software and how to configure it, then it will be most useful.
I want to record packet flow at my router right?

S3+ could be singled out in that chart as well and looks the same way, most of the big spikes line up. but I think it shows there is a definite issue being magnified on larger miners.
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I am interrupting the thread with hardware troubleshooting.

Thank you fellas for the replies. I will take a stroll through my connections again and swap some cables, think simple for a bit and proceed.

Much Appreciated and thanks for the solid pool, I'll get my connection solid as well.





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September 12, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
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Arris gateways were known to have dropping issues when used as a home gateway. I recall something about changing the DHCP scope away from 0.2 -0.9, as those addresses seemed to be most affected. I think there was also an issue with high active/open connections causing them to overflow and reset the network stack. (this was many years ago - I would have assumed it would have been addressed by now)

The Arris gateways aren't really designed to be run as complete network gateways. They're best used as a bridge to a dedicated router if stability is something you are looking for. I'm still running an old 54G as a wireless bridge in front of the miners and use an RT-N60 for my main router.

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closely followed by 2 blocks of 5%...... i dream  Cheesy

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September 12, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
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Your pool better pay better than Eligius ;-) I would say ;-) /cheers ...

Edit: it will not ;-) BUT your Reply/Views ratio is impressive in this thread ;-) so I will stay at Kano.is ;-)

It DOES.

I second that
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September 12, 2015, 07:44:15 PM
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Not all the spikes seem to apply at the same time. But some does, so it doesn't seem like a single unit, but not always the same either. I have that with my S5, maybe you have a combination thereof?


The big one is you blatantly losing connection for a few minutes however.


I am thinking network because I am not pulling 50 amps continuously and I am sized well under 70%.



I am leaning towards net, I loaded a couple of things like wireshark but I haven't seen anything obvious.

I will take a stroll through my connections again and swap some cables, think simple for a bit and proceed.

Much Appreciated and thanks for the solid pool, I'll get my connection solid as well.


Not sure if I cut this post down to size correctly but I'm trying to help out this user. I will first say, you are on the right track but I don't think you will accomplish anything much but lose sleep. I am running Verizon FIOS here (fiber optic to the house) and still drop many a packet. When I questioned my provider, I was told that this was normal behavior as they customarily restart network flow to ensure that old connections aren't draining system resources...yada, yada. All I am stressing to you is this...don't chase a ghost! If you wish to proceed, by all means & methods, I wish you luck. I hope your hair can stand the pulling.

Good Luck & Happy Mining

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September 12, 2015, 07:54:03 PM
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Not all the spikes seem to apply at the same time. But some does, so it doesn't seem like a single unit, but not always the same either. I have that with my S5, maybe you have a combination thereof?


The big one is you blatantly losing connection for a few minutes however.


I am thinking network because I am not pulling 50 amps continuously and I am sized well under 70%.



I am leaning towards net, I loaded a couple of things like wireshark but I haven't seen anything obvious.

I will take a stroll through my connections again and swap some cables, think simple for a bit and proceed.

Much Appreciated and thanks for the solid pool, I'll get my connection solid as well.


Not sure if I cut this post down to size correctly but I'm trying to help out this user. I will first say, you are on the right track but I don't think you will accomplish anything much but lose sleep. I am running Verizon FIOS here (fiber optic to the house) and still drop many a packet. When I questioned my provider, I was told that this was normal behavior as they customarily restart network flow to ensure that old connections aren't draining system resources...yada, yada. All I am stressing to you is this...don't chase a ghost! If you wish to proceed, by all means & methods, I wish you luck. I hope your hair can stand the pulling.

Good Luck & Happy Mining

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That being said, what is your ping loss on a continuous ping to stratum.kano.is?

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September 13, 2015, 03:34:35 AM
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In my case it's just the way it is with my ADSL connection (last night from 10pm to 4am it happened 6 times ... only one of those was my daily reconnect by design ... that was the worst number in a long time)


They have been upgrading the lines in the neighborhoods around me, to improve quality!  I guess getting connection speed going slow back to normal or dropping connection for a minute to over an hour multiple times a day is "improved quality" by today's standards. Sure beats that old standard of steady high speed and maybe dropping connection maybe once or twice a week.  Roll Eyes
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September 13, 2015, 12:13:44 PM
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Payout 374207 sent
5619c7174b584022625c7fa246d8cdd74779d92f28f3a766b3e888d1a6835bc0
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September 13, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
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Lulz funny about Eligius lying about pools.

As I've stated before, the expected rewards on this pool are quite specific and very simple to calculate.
1) (total block reward * 99.1%) * orphan rate

Now a few rather simple facts.
Eligius doesn't pay total block reward, they pay less, they pay a absolute maximum of 100% PPS ... less reduce that by the orphan %
You can check any of their miners on their block page and see that they aren't 100% PPS

Next, what is the average total block reward here?
Over the 323 blocks found, our average total block reward is 25.12814881BTC
Or ... 100.51% PPS

How many orphans have we had?
Two.
First one was the 2nd block found on the pool, and only one more in the almost year since then.
2 out of 327 = 0.61% i.e. 99.39% ok
Of course sooner or later we'll get more orphans, but the fact that our pool handles block changes WAY faster than that 'other' pool means we expect our orphans to be a lot lower.

So our current expected payout is 100.51% * 99.1% * 99.39% = 99.00%

Yes I took into account all 3 actual relevant numbers - I didn't ignore any

Now for people being paid here at the pool, there's another interesting factor that is of course historical only.
The pool luck over the past year has averaged 103.48%

Then of course if we look at the past 200, 100 and 50 blocks:
Average total block reward:
200 blocks: 25.15175945 100.61%
100 blocks: 25.20158867 100.81%
50 blocks: 25.22162929 100.89%

And of course historical luck Smiley
100 blocks: 106.02%
50 blocks: 107.21%

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September 13, 2015, 03:55:29 PM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy

Go Big or Go Home.
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy
woot thanks for the block Smiley
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September 14, 2015, 02:33:41 AM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy
No restart required, as stated above, you just found our next block Smiley

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September 14, 2015, 02:39:42 AM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy
No restart required, as stated above, you just found our next block Smiley

ROFL.. WOOHOO!! Wink

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September 14, 2015, 02:46:04 AM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy
No restart required, as stated above, you just found our next block Smiley

ROFL.. WOOHOO!! Wink

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September 14, 2015, 02:52:19 AM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy

Nice job! Was that a WestHash rental?
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September 14, 2015, 02:55:54 AM
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Can we have a restart please?  Cheesy

Nice job! Was that a WestHash rental?

I have some westhash rentals and Betarigs rentals going here as the price moves.
Also have my own rigs in there, so not sure which one hit.

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September 14, 2015, 04:57:02 AM
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I was looking in the wallet and what do we have here: few small payments from 1N6LrEDiHuFwSyJYj2GedZM2FGk7kkLjn because i pointed few miners over here some time ago...

Now i'm full speed on this pool;D
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I don't get why not more people mine here. Second most profitable pool and you would be supporting the good guys instead of incompetent and greedy chinese miners.
http://organofcorti.blogspot.de/2015/09/september-13th-2015-mining-pool.html
I get that people like PPS but longterm they get more BTC at ckpool than on F2Pool or Antpool.

Maybe it is the UI? But  smart miners shouldn't care about that.
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I don't get why not more people mine here. Second most profitable pool and you would be supporting the good guys instead of incompetent and greedy chinese miners.
http://organofcorti.blogspot.de/2015/09/september-13th-2015-mining-pool.html
I get that people like PPS but longterm they get more BTC at ckpool than on F2Pool or Antpool.

Maybe it is the UI? But  smart miners shouldn't care about that.

Publicity, knowledge, etc. People are Lazy.

People just google a pool and point it there or maybe they don't they just go with what the seller of their miner tell them. For instance Bitmain heavily push people into using Antpool since they can continue making money of the miner they build without spending a single extra dime.

They don't think 1-3% more is worth bothering or they don't even know they can get more. They get misled by AntPool saying 0% fee. So they think its the best. They don't understand no tx fee reward is quite significant and will be more and more as the block reward halves.

If everyone came to know of Kano/CK's pool, then it would surely get much more hashrate, but perhaps not before it get more hashrate first. Its not particularly interesting for people when you tell them its possible they won't get a payout for one week. Small pool mean variance and most people unconsciously flock to the bigger group. Basic survival impulse.


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