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[kipper01]

5 blocks in about minute this morning and none are Kano's

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[huynhdat1989]

5 blocks in about minute this morning and none are Kano's

456910-456914

Yeah, kano just need 5 mins/block )

[wmabern]

One of my S7's just re-started for NO REASON, all by itself, and switched to Antpoo. I didn't touch it and looked in Awesome miner and watched it change to antpoo.

Now that is some crazy $hit!

[bitsink]

One of my S7's just re-started for NO REASON, all by itself, and switched to Antpoo. I didn't touch it and looked in Awesome miner and watched it change to antpoo.

Now that is some crazy $hit!

A hard reset maybe?

[bitsink]

I think there may be a problem with the pool's time zone, at least for the shift timing. The shift timing states that it is in UTC, but:

The latest shift - 825j5 yuno - just started a couple of minutes ago and it states that it started at Mar‑12 17:08:27 (UTC). The time now is 18:15 UTC. It seems that the Pool is in UTC-1h timezone instead in UTC?

[wmabern]

One of my S7's just re-started for NO REASON, all by itself, and switched to Antpoo. I didn't touch it and looked in Awesome miner and watched it change to antpoo.

Now that is some crazy $hit!

A hard reset maybe?

No one touched it. It is here in my spare room. I heard it power down and looked in Awesome Miner and watched it go from disconnected to Antpool.

And now that I changed it back to Kano, the miner can't find an IP. Or least it's not the same IP address it had. And Awesome Miner can't find it in a network scan.

So yes, I guess it's time to give it a hard reset and fill in all my pools again. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[bitsink]

One of my S7's just re-started for NO REASON, all by itself, and switched to Antpoo. I didn't touch it and looked in Awesome miner and watched it change to antpoo.

Now that is some crazy $hit!

A hard reset maybe?

No one touched it. It is here in my spare room. I heard it power down and looked in Awesome Miner and watched it go from disconnected to Antpool.

And now that I changed it back to Kano, the miner can't find an IP. Or least it's not the same IP address it had. And Awesome Miner can't find it in a network scan.

So yes, I guess it's time to give it a hard reset and fill in all my pools again. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I guess awesome miner uses the api port to communicate (search) for the miner? If the miner has not yet started then it wont find it. Check you DHCP server for active clients. There you will be able to pick out the miner and get the IP address. You probably dont need a hard reset, which may take along time to come back online (depending on your firmware model) - S9s can tale up to 1h!

[wmabern]

One of my S7's just re-started for NO REASON, all by itself, and switched to Antpoo. I didn't touch it and looked in Awesome miner and watched it change to antpoo.

Now that is some crazy $hit!

A hard reset maybe?

No one touched it. It is here in my spare room. I heard it power down and looked in Awesome Miner and watched it go from disconnected to Antpool.

And now that I changed it back to Kano, the miner can't find an IP. Or least it's not the same IP address it had. And Awesome Miner can't find it in a network scan.

So yes, I guess it's time to give it a hard reset and fill in all my pools again. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I guess awesome miner uses the api port to communicate (search) for the miner? If the miner has not yet started then it wont find it. Check you DHCP server for active clients. There you will be able to pick out the miner and get the IP address. You probably dont need a hard reset, which may take along time to come back online (depending on your firmware model) - S9s can tale up to 1h!

It's an S7 and I did do a hard reset. It came back quickly with the original DHCP provided address. I just had to go in and change pools.

[beltsniffer]

I think there may be a problem with the pool's time zone, at least for the shift timing. The shift timing states that it is in UTC, but:

The latest shift - 825j5 yuno - just started a couple of minutes ago and it states that it started at Mar‑12 17:08:27 (UTC). The time now is 18:15 UTC. It seems that the Pool is in UTC-1h timezone instead in UTC?

I believe the server is in California which just switched to daylight savings time

[bitsink]

I think there may be a problem with the pool's time zone, at least for the shift timing. The shift timing states that it is in UTC, but:

The latest shift - 825j5 yuno - just started a couple of minutes ago and it states that it started at Mar‑12 17:08:27 (UTC). The time now is 18:15 UTC. It seems that the Pool is in UTC-1h timezone instead in UTC?

I believe the server is in California which just switched to daylight savings time

Maybe so, but if a computer is set to UTC, then there is per definition no daylight saving.

[kano]

I think there may be a problem with the pool's time zone, at least for the shift timing. The shift timing states that it is in UTC, but:

The latest shift - 825j5 yuno - just started a couple of minutes ago and it states that it started at Mar‑12 17:08:27 (UTC). The time now is 18:15 UTC. It seems that the Pool is in UTC-1h timezone instead in UTC?

Shifts appear, are created, ~13 minutes after they finish.
The start isn't the unknown factor, it's the finish point that it has to wait until all the workinfo is complete/confirmed then it works out the shift.

Edit: and you can see that the shifts are all OK by the fact they all have a Start and Length, so the start of any following shift will be Start+Length

The Server time doesn't affect the web display at all, it uses UTC for all displayed time since people all over the planet look at it.
Internally, CKDB treats everything as UTC and the code all deals with converting the Postgresql dates to and from UTC.

Each web page, at the bottom right in small letters, shows what your browser thinks is your local time, and at the bottom left, what the server thinks is UTC time.
That also effectively shows any discrepancy between your computer and the actual time, after you subtract the network and processing delay for the page request.

[CakeBatterTornado]

Hey Kano (And all)

 Brand new to mining and opted for your KanoPool due to all the great things I've read in the forums.

 Some unsolicited feedback: I've seen a lot of comments about new miners joining and leaving Kano due to the spikes in blocks found.

 Personally, I think what might help is more of a laymen's term explanation of how the pool works on the main Kano.is page. I've read it and re-read it 10 times, and still don't completely understand the 5Nd thing. Also, some of the stats on the stats page confuse me (e.g., Diff, Diff%, etc.)

 I know Kano does plenty already, but maybe some of the people smarter than me could crowd source a more basic explanation for the pool? This could help attract / retain new people? Let me know if I can help!

 Orrrrr feel free to completely ignore this.

Thanks!

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Hey Kano (And all)
 Brand new to mining and opted for your KanoPool due to all the great things I've read in the forums.
 Some unsolicited feedback: I've seen a lot of comments about new miners joining and leaving Kano due to the spikes in blocks found.

 Personally, I think what might help is more of a laymen's term explanation of how the pool works on the main Kano.is page. I've read it and re-read it 10 times, and still don't completely understand the 5Nd thing. Also, some of the stats on the stats page confuse me (e.g., Diff, Diff%, etc.)

 I know Kano does plenty already, but maybe some of the people smarter than me could crowd source a more basic explanation for the pool? This could help attract / retain new people? Let me know if I can help!

 Orrrrr feel free to completely ignore this.

Thanks!

ref http://en.bitcoinwiki.org/Main_Page
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin

[kano]

Hey Kano (And all)

 Brand new to mining and opted for your KanoPool due to all the great things I've read in the forums.

 Some unsolicited feedback: I've seen a lot of comments about new miners joining and leaving Kano due to the spikes in blocks found.

 Personally, I think what might help is more of a laymen's term explanation of how the pool works on the main Kano.is page. I've read it and re-read it 10 times, and still don't completely understand the 5Nd thing. Also, some of the stats on the stats page confuse me (e.g., Diff, Diff%, etc.)

 I know Kano does plenty already, but maybe some of the people smarter than me could crowd source a more basic explanation for the pool? This could help attract / retain new people? Let me know if I can help!

 Orrrrr feel free to completely ignore this.

Thanks!

Well the pool is PPLNS, like the majority of non-PPS pools, so I guess then the problem might be that people don't understand PPLNS, even including the description I give on the web site

I'll give another version and then feel free to tell me what doesn't make sense.

Every time we find a block, we pay the shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.
That's the 'N' in PPLNS

Bitcoin has a difficulty for finding blocks called the Network Difficulty (I abbreviated it as Nd)

It's currently ~461 Billion
5Nd = 5 times Nd = ~2.3Trillion

Every share you submit to the pool has a difficulty that the pool requires - you see that in your miner and on the web site workers.
Usually around 1,000 to 20,000 - if yours are much lower then you are basically mining for fun so none of this really matters.
That's 'Diff'

So the pool adds up all those shares for the last ~2.3Trillion Diff and pays everyone their ratio of that 2.3Trillion as part of the 12.5+ BTC block.
So if you found 2.3Billion worth of shares, you'd get ~1,000th of the miner reward.

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Now the following is the same for all pools that don't hide information

When we find a block, the pool has kept track of how much work was done (total valid Diff submitted to the pool) since the last block was found.
It's expected, on average, to be Nd, so if the work done was exactly Nd, then the block Diff% would be 100%
Block finding is random.
So it could be twice as much work as expected, so 200%, or it could be half as much work as expected, so 50% ... or any other %
Luck% is just Diff% upside down (1 / Diff%)

[clgrissom3]

That is a really good way to explain all of that...

[kano]

Block! by canaan
and 4 payouts
A7v2

[vh]

Every time we find a block, we pay the shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.

Thoughts on an adjusted version of this:

Every time we find a block: 1. Rewards for recently matured (unpaid) blocks are released, 2. You earn rewards for your accepted shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.

I also thought it's a good time to send a reminder plug for Zach's monitor.
All newbies should take a look at it for a different perspective for kano.is published stats and as a supplemental tool as mentioned in the OP.

[kano]

Every time we find a block, we pay the shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.

Thoughts on an adjusted version of this:

Every time we find a block: 1. Rewards for recently matured (unpaid) blocks are released, 2. You earn rewards for your accepted shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.

I also thought it's a good time to send a reminder plug for Zach's monitor.
All newbies should take a look at it for a different perspective for kano.is published stats and as a supplemental tool as mentioned in the OP.

Well that's a technicality that isn't an understanding issue
OK then it should read

Every time we find a block, we reward the shares for a certain amount up to when the block was found.

That 'technicality' is described quite clearly at the bottom of the payouts page.
(and every pool has a 'technicality' of rewards->pay)

[-EOS-]

Block! by canaan
and 4 payouts
A7v2

Nice to wake up and have one in the basket!

[kano]

Block! by btsgold
2.2BTC txn fees
Prolly an S7