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January 24, 2017, 10:04:27 PM
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If you do ever get any S9v1, make sure you update them to the v2 firmware if you want to point them here.

I have several S9's that BITMAIN states should not be upgraded to V2... Are V1 S9's going to be blocked or something? Need to find an alternate pool for the V1's if that is the case.

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January 24, 2017, 11:58:34 PM
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Keno - question for you. Why does the pool wait for 101 confirmations, don't you think that is kind of excessive? I know it makes absolutely no difference since the pool usually won't find the next block before the 101 confirmations anyway, but was wondering if there was a reason for it. I know like antpool has a 5 block wait period which seems more reasonable.

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January 25, 2017, 12:00:23 AM
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Keno - question for you. Why does the pool wait for 101 confirmations, don't you think that is kind of excessive? I know it makes absolutely no difference since the pool usually won't find the next block before the 101 confirmations anyway, but was wondering if there was a reason for it. I know like antpool has a 5 block wait period which seems more reasonable.
You can't spend a block reward until 101 confirms.
(so it's a soon as I possibly can)

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January 25, 2017, 12:05:17 AM
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Keno - question for you. Why does the pool wait for 101 confirmations, don't you think that is kind of excessive? I know it makes absolutely no difference since the pool usually won't find the next block before the 101 confirmations anyway, but was wondering if there was a reason for it. I know like antpool has a 5 block wait period which seems more reasonable.
You can't spend a block reward until 101 confirms.
(so it's a soon as I possibly can)

Interesting!!! okay, I guess antpool is doing some weired stuff, probably using other bitcoin from some other reserve they have. Anyway, a none issue, just was wondering.

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January 25, 2017, 12:12:52 AM
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Keno - question for you. Why does the pool wait for 101 confirmations, don't you think that is kind of excessive? I know it makes absolutely no difference since the pool usually won't find the next block before the 101 confirmations anyway, but was wondering if there was a reason for it. I know like antpool has a 5 block wait period which seems more reasonable.
You can't spend a block reward until 101 confirms.
(so it's a soon as I possibly can)

Interesting!!! okay, I guess antpool is doing some weired stuff, probably using other bitcoin from some other reserve they have. Anyway, a none issue, just was wondering.
Antpool make a profit off their miners of well over 15 BTC each day in pool mining fees (over $5.5Million a year paid by miners) - so I guess they can afford to pay people in advance Tongue
Though I have no idea what the 5 confirms you are referring to is - since I don't go near their pool - it's bad for bitcoin.

Here also you can see exactly where the BTC goes and where your payout comes from.
I send the 99.1% to the pool payout address, then when that is able to be spent/sent (101 confirms) I send that directly to the miners.

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January 25, 2017, 01:54:35 AM
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Keno - question for you. Why does the pool wait for 101 confirmations, don't you think that is kind of excessive? I know it makes absolutely no difference since the pool usually won't find the next block before the 101 confirmations anyway, but was wondering if there was a reason for it. I know like antpool has a 5 block wait period which seems more reasonable.
You can't spend a block reward until 101 confirms.
(so it's a soon as I possibly can)

Interesting!!! okay, I guess antpool is doing some weired stuff, probably using other bitcoin from some other reserve they have. Anyway, a none issue, just was wondering.
Antpool make a profit off their miners of well over 15 BTC each day in pool mining fees (over $5.5Million a year paid by miners) - so I guess they can afford to pay people in advance Tongue
Though I have no idea what the 5 confirms you are referring to is - since I don't go near their pool - it's bad for bitcoin.

Here also you can see exactly where the BTC goes and where your payout comes from.
I send the 99.1% to the pool payout address, then when that is able to be spent/sent (101 confirms) I send that directly to the miners.

Agreed!!!! Don't get me wrong, I love CKPool and I have permanently switched both my solo and normal pool over... Keep up the good work.

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January 25, 2017, 02:23:27 AM
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Block! By chapi2016, salud!

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January 25, 2017, 02:32:41 AM
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Block! By chapi2016, salud!
That was probably an S7 Smiley

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January 25, 2017, 02:43:56 AM
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Another block and with a decent fee too!

Nice!
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January 25, 2017, 03:05:27 AM
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Block! By chapi2016, salud!

Good job Chapi2016!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  I think our expected daily block count is now ~1.25 per day so we need to hit another to bump us over! Cheesy

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January 25, 2017, 05:55:38 AM
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Block! By chapi2016, salud!

Good job Chapi2016!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  I think our expected daily block count is now ~1.25 per day so we need to hit another to bump us over! Cheesy

There goes another!  Hehe Smiley
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January 25, 2017, 06:13:42 AM
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Block! By chapi2016, salud!

Good job Chapi2016!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  I think our expected daily block count is now ~1.25 per day so we need to hit another to bump us over! Cheesy

There goes another!  Hehe Smiley
Canaan with an A7v2 Smiley

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January 25, 2017, 06:17:19 AM
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Woo! Smiley
Another by Canaan 2 blocks later Cheesy

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January 25, 2017, 06:20:46 AM
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Woo! Smiley
Another by Canaan 2 blocks later Cheesy

Woooow!  That's 4 today by my time!  Awesome!!!
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January 25, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
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Code:
./cgminer --quota "1;stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333" -u wvr.0 -p x --quota "1;stratum+tcp://solo.ckpool.org:3333" -u myaddr.wvr -p x

Rifts are sad events and they suck. Hard.

kano, it's understandable for ck to not use ckdb as he's mentioned that the db stuff is beyond his remit. As a result he has a dependency on you to test that commits don't introduce retroactive bugs in ckdb. You're really the best person for that as you run it in production and are the only person doing so openly. If you're using an old version of it (August 2016), the private fork happened then, not now.

Re: the private CDF calcs: I can digg that it very much classifies as secret-sauce for a pool. If a pool is a government, defense materiel would definitely include custom, unshared BWH-protection and/or luck-based pool operator actions. Warnings that lead to bans and eventual non-payment is serious shit and affects your reputation as a solid pool operator. So you have to protect that.

As someone who's been working on wrapping my head around the whole segwit thing (the tech, et al aspects of it) I can say that you have both been invaluable inputs on providing unfettered-, independently- and well-formed opinions on what will be a big change for bitcoin. Or not. Your polar opposite views on the whole thing is an example of what bitcoin is: people arguing until they're pissed at one another and eventually coming up with something that works for both of them. It's a good thing. This situation is not all that different.

Disagreements are important. In any venture: When two men always agree, one of them is unnecessary. The work you both do is as inter-dependent as it is important.

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January 25, 2017, 10:31:59 AM
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kano, it's understandable for ck to not use ckdb as he's mentioned that the db stuff is beyond his remit. As a result he has a dependency on you to test that commits don't introduce retroactive bugs in ckdb. You're really the best person for that as you run it in production and are the only person doing so openly. If you're using an old version of it (August 2016), the private fork happened then, not now.
ck's been recently making changes to ckpool for ckdb, for the Bitmain guy, coz he paid him to do them, that brake the ckdb payouts.
I hardly see "beyond his remit" in that.

I am not the only one who runs ckdb in production, others do.
It was 2 other people, BitClub and RogerVer, who had ckdb startup crashes when they updated with ckpool changes that were for ckpool - but they were changes that affected ckdb also.
Normally if you change a library function that requires new rules about calling it, you'd change all code that calls it, not ignore the ckdb code  that calls it and was broken by the change.

As for when the fork happened - who cares.
He has 2 forks of ckpool.
I created one and he commented positively about it when I said I created it.
Then the other day he got pissed at me responding to his jibe at me in similar fashion, then locked me out of everything saying it was coz of my fork. Oddly that included locking me out of cgminer and taking away all my privs in the IRC channels.
Nothing to do with code or forks, he was just throwing a tantrum coz of what I replied pretty much similar to what he said to me.

You feel the need to lecture me for -ck
I'll respond.

P.S. this is over, finished end of story. Not sure why you felt the need to bring it up again.
As is CKDB as per his words after he locked me out:
"< conman> leaving all the others depending on ckdb in the lurch yay \o/"

... The work you both do is as inter-dependent as it is important.
He certainly doesn't agree with you.

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Re: the private CDF calcs: I can digg that it very much classifies as secret-sauce for a pool. If a pool is a government, defense materiel would definitely include custom, unshared BWH-protection and/or luck-based pool operator actions. Warnings that lead to bans and eventual non-payment is serious shit and affects your reputation as a solid pool operator. So you have to protect that.
Nothing to do with private CDF calcs.
Some of the current testing is there in the public git and the database and code changes for the stats are all there also.
There's ways a miner can make it very hard to detect their withholding.
This new testing is doing something very different to detect that, and I will be able to check things retroactively with some effort later - since I always keep all data.

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January 25, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
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Perhaps it's me and I need to apologies to you guys.

I've been mining on the pool since Thursday and we've only found 2 blocks, prior to me pointing my miners at the pool it looked like things were travelling along quite nicely.

I am sooo glad you are taking the blame.

I started Tuesday and I thought I was the reason why  Roll Eyes

Even though I (we) are off to a slow start, from what I can tell and read, I am glad I chose this pool.

I am also going to double my Th/s in a about 2 days, when my 2nd R4 arrives..now I am a double sized small home (newbie) miner!

It's all good guys!  Hopefully we'll be back on track soon.  Although I'm starting to have my doubts after the diff jump!  Undecided.  Let's hope that when your second R4 arrives it brings us back some green luck! Smiley

Well, got my 2nd R4 today and its up and running (although a little hot!). So that means a shorter wait for the next block  Grin and guaranteed green luck!!!!

Time for me to take credit ...lol

Seriously..WooHoo three at a time!! Nice job
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January 25, 2017, 11:34:44 AM
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You feel the need to lecture me for -ck
I speak for nobody except myself, apologies if the rhetoric of my words implied otherwise.
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January 25, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
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You feel the need to lecture me for -ck
I speak for nobody except myself, apologies if the rhetoric of my words implied otherwise.

Rhetoric seems quite obvious
... he's mentioned that the db stuff is beyond his remit. As a result he has a dependency on you to test that commits don't introduce retroactive bugs in ckdb.

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January 25, 2017, 02:29:21 PM
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Woo! Smiley
Another by Canaan 2 blocks later Cheesy

It's great to wake up to 3 blocks in the tank!  That's what I'm talking about! Cheesy

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