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[ccgllc]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!

I just placed an order now.

They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.

First I have seen this.

Somewhere around September 28th, 2017, they stopped accepting BTC.  I only know because I paid with BTC on the 27th of that month, and they had stopped accepting it shortly thereafter.

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[clgrissom3]

One (small) Block to rule them all! 
Cheers MicroBalrog!  Block Party Thursday is ON! 

Haha!

[padrinogtr]

Invalids can be caused by the incomming summer heat.

usually has to do with daylight savings time

[Par Avion]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush. 

[rifleman74]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!

I just placed an order now.

They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.

First I have seen this.

They're looking to dump any and all stock.   Very very interesting.  Beginning of July is getting ever so close!!

[clgrissom3]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush. 

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

[Par Avion]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush. 

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

Minergains numbers are often very wrong. I'm well aware of the website.

[padrinogtr]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!

I just placed an order now.

They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.

First I have seen this.

They're looking to dump any and all stock.   Very very interesting.  Beginning of July is getting ever so close!!

what happens in july?

[nazzer]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush.  

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

Minergains numbers are often very wrong. I'm well aware of the website.

I'm sure he'll be grateful if you help point out the errors made.

FWIW my last 15 days (10 S9's, fully ramped up) come to 0.22084325 15 day total, 0.01472288333 per day average, or 0.001472288334 for 1 S9

For the past 30 days I've been ramping up - so the numbers come up to : 0.41858057 30 day total, 0.01395268567 per day average, 0.001395268567 for 1 S9

All my S9's are the 13.5TH/s model

[nazzer]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!

I just placed an order now.

They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.

First I have seen this.

They're looking to dump any and all stock.   Very very interesting.  Beginning of July is getting ever so close!!

what happens in july?

Coupons expire - expectation is new ASIC's coming from Bitmain

[clgrissom3]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush. 

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

Minergains numbers are often very wrong. I'm well aware of the website.

Well I guess after you've collected the numbers you want you could check minergain.com to see if his numbers have improved.  Just trying to be helpful.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!
I just placed an order now.
They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.
First I have seen this.

Interesting. With the almost over USA tax season and The great underground empire taking bitcoin for miners again, I expect the price of bitcoin to start upward. Lets watch and see,    ...
Mine On!

Well I'll be damned! Rather like Coke admitting they screwed up when they changed their formula, Bitmain blinked!
After trying push BitCH down our throats by dropping acceptance of BTC for so long have they perhaps seen the error of their ways?

Probably not. And also still will not sway me to again use Bitmain Ants.

[nazzer]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush. 

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

Minergains numbers are often very wrong. I'm well aware of the website.

Well I guess after you've collected the numbers you want you could check minergain.com to see if his numbers have improved.  Just trying to be helpful.

I calculated my 7 day CDT from block 516833 to block 517900 (6.7 days) to be 0.00008112 as opposed to 0.00006588 calculated at Minergain - maybe the numbers at Minergain are slightly off?

[clgrissom3]

I calculated my 7 day CDT from block 516833 to block 517900 (6.7 days) to be 0.00008112 as opposed to 0.00006588 calculated at Minergain - maybe the numbers at Minergain are slightly off?

Interesting, I just looked at the 7 day CDT on Minergain for Kano.is and I see 0.00008145...maybe I'm looking at a different minergain.com...

...and I should stay out of this; it's not my website.

EDIT:  My CDT for the past 7 days is 0.00008124 with 20 machines.

[nazzer]

I calculated my 7 day CDT from block 516833 to block 517900 (6.7 days) to be 0.00008112 as opposed to 0.00006588 calculated at Minergain - maybe the numbers at Minergain are slightly off?

Interesting, I just looked at the 7 day CDT on Minergain for Kano.is and I see 0.00008145...maybe I'm looking at a different minergain.com...

...and I should stay out of this; it's not my website.

EDIT:  My CDT for the past 7 days is 0.00008124 with 20 machines.

Ok that's weird minergain still shows 6588 for me... Maybe when miner gain wakes up?

His figures usually don't seem off for me

[Par Avion]

If anyone running 2 s9s wants to share some numbers for the past 30 days with me to compare with slush let me know. Kano pool had a banging march, and I'd like to compare that vs. the tortoise that is slush.  

Minergain has the numbers you are looking for.  Just take his Coins per Day (CPD) numbers and multiply it by your total TH/s for each pool and you will see all!

https://www.minergain.com/

Minergains numbers are often very wrong. I'm well aware of the website.

I'm sure he'll be grateful if you help point out the errors made.

FWIW my last 15 days (10 S9's, fully ramped up) come to 0.22084325 15 day total, 0.01472288333 per day average, or 0.001472288334 for 1 S9

For the past 30 days I've been ramping up - so the numbers come up to : 0.41858057 30 day total, 0.01395268567 per day average, 0.001395268567 for 1 S9

All my S9's are the 13.5TH/s model

Quoting to save for later and fully comment; this is good information.

As to minergain being off, I would help where I could, but I don't know why his numbers are often incorrect. My guess is that he uses a very small snapshot to make the calculations and that throws things off quite a bit.

[jhoren]

Thank you ccgllc. I think my main question might be how ramp down/up with five hours of off time might affect it. I don't think it would be noticeable but I wonder how I might be able to calculate that.

If you turned your miners off for 5 hours every day, they'd be mining 19 hours. That's roughly 20% less hash rate. You can take your hash rate and subtract 20% from that and run your calculations. The ramp up and ramp down won't really matter.

Thank you. I ran my calculations basing it on the total hash rate of the pool for the week and then of my % of that.

With a single machine there's about a $2.25 difference per week at the current BTC-USD rate. Maybe worth it if I get more machines running.

I ran it also if I ran it during the very expensive portion of the peak time and I would lose $.25 per week there. So, I could probably talk myself into giving the pool that hash and not stop it. But I'd still be saving using the peak/off-peak instead of just the straight cost.

Also to work out what to expect to lose from mining 80% of the time, as stated above that's 20% less expected reward.

How the ramp down and up works is that instead of losing 20% on the next block, and of course the luck of single block finding has very high variance, you instead lose it over 5Nd - i.e. you expect that 20% loss spread out over 5Nd after the outage - or 4% each 100% expected block
If it's a daily thing, then you should see the rewards settle close to the expected 80% each block reward as the daily 4%s overlap.

Thanks Kano. And it isn't a true 20% as it was only M-F, I would still be up 143 of 168 hours. But those 25 hours are so miniscule it may not be worth the hassle.

[jhoren]

For anyone looking to order from Bitmain.  Especially us Kano guys!
I just placed an order now.
They are now accepting BCH, BTC and LTC as payment.
First I have seen this.

Interesting. With the almost over USA tax season and The great underground empire taking bitcoin for miners again, I expect the price of bitcoin to start upward. Lets watch and see,    ...
Mine On!

Well I'll be damned! Rather like Coke admitting they screwed up when they changed their formula, Bitmain blinked!
After trying push BitCH down our throats by dropping acceptance of BTC for so long have they perhaps seen the error of their ways?

Probably not. And also still will not sway me to again use Bitmain Ants.

Does Canaan take BTC? I see their site says "We will give you wiring instructions and a final invoice."

[kano]

Thank you ccgllc. I think my main question might be how ramp down/up with five hours of off time might affect it. I don't think it would be noticeable but I wonder how I might be able to calculate that.

If you turned your miners off for 5 hours every day, they'd be mining 19 hours. That's roughly 20% less hash rate. You can take your hash rate and subtract 20% from that and run your calculations. The ramp up and ramp down won't really matter.

Thank you. I ran my calculations basing it on the total hash rate of the pool for the week and then of my % of that.

With a single machine there's about a $2.25 difference per week at the current BTC-USD rate. Maybe worth it if I get more machines running.

I ran it also if I ran it during the very expensive portion of the peak time and I would lose $.25 per week there. So, I could probably talk myself into giving the pool that hash and not stop it. But I'd still be saving using the peak/off-peak instead of just the straight cost.

Also to work out what to expect to lose from mining 80% of the time, as stated above that's 20% less expected reward.

How the ramp down and up works is that instead of losing 20% on the next block, and of course the luck of single block finding has very high variance, you instead lose it over 5Nd - i.e. you expect that 20% loss spread out over 5Nd after the outage - or 4% each 100% expected block
If it's a daily thing, then you should see the rewards settle close to the expected 80% each block reward as the daily 4%s overlap.

Thanks Kano. And it isn't a true 20% as it was only M-F, I would still be up 143 of 168 hours. But those 25 hours are so miniscule it may not be worth the hassle.

So your expected reward is 143/168 = ~85% of the 100% expected reward for your hash rate.

'Ramping' up and down isn't from having your reward reduced, it's from spreading it out (over 5Nd)
So you really do expect whatever fraction of the time you are mining as your expected reward %

This actually also works a lot better than on slush.
On slush the variance due to reduced mining or changing your hash rate (up or down) is actually higher than here due to the fact that the N (in PPLNS) is so short or slush.

Of course our overall variance is higher here due to the lower pool hash rate, but the variance affect on your reward due to changing your hash rate here is a lot lower than on slush.

[nazzer]

Well I'll be damned! Rather like Coke admitting they screwed up when they changed their formula, Bitmain blinked!
After trying push BitCH down our throats by dropping acceptance of BTC for so long have they perhaps seen the error of their ways?

Probably not. And also still will not sway me to again use Bitmain Ants.

Does Canaan take BTC? I see their site says "We will give you wiring instructions and a final invoice."

I think they are expecting a wire transfer if it says that