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[ShefSam]

ANYWAY...

BTCLOCK BTCLOCK BTCLOCK BTCLOCK.  BTCLOCK PARTY WEEKEND!!

[Vlada69]

Have yet to receive matured block 516833... any issues?

How many times must it be repeated here: Mature blocks are paid out when the next block after it is found.

Quite often it gets picked up by the next network block or so, but yes...another block along the way by anyone must be "cracked" before any payouts from the matured block come out.  It's always worked this way...ALWAYS!



MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

Yes, I have def got paid out before a 2nd block, and usually upon maturity.

It's most likely going to happen when the mempool is low like now but not a guarantee.  That's why Kano always includes our payouts in our next block as a precaution.

A question. How did you made web link out of signature?

[kano]

@kano is there a way to verify if my current rented shares are trash shares or actually helpful? Currently have around 4-5hrs left on my 1.2ph order. Would be more than willing to redirect to a test pool for research if needed.

The October problem was 100PH for an extended period of time, but was not enough to point fingers, only to vaguely wave hands.
So no, you can't use that small a sample to determine it's validity.

MRR I ban randomly, when I find them, but I don't look too hard for them, and I'd expect it to be rare for anyone to use MRR, coz the cost there is even higher than craphash, so it makes it a bad idea for anyone actually working out the cost/return.

Using my calculator page ... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php ... at the moment your 'expected' 100% PPS return per TH/s is (there at the top)
0.000002984061 BTC per hour
So whatever you pay, when you add on fees and transaction fees at MRR, you will be paying higher than that, so you are expecting to lose.

craphash likes to hide the fees by having the market show pre-fee values, and then adding fees on top for buyers and charging sellers fees on those numbers also.
Both those fees are based on the market value, so they are indeed obscuring the fees ... then you have the fees for moving BTC in and out of craphash also ...
... then of course there was the magical cold wallet hack ...

Bottom line is, since there's a financial advantage, to withhold blocks, for people selling hash rate using PPS, then since October, whenever I find rentals, I straight out block them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002086.0

To top it off, when you rent a miner, where is that miner?
Is it running through some other proxy adding latency on top of the latency from wherever that miner is, on it's path to the pool?
No idea

[ShefSam]

There she is! BTC

[kano]

Have yet to receive matured block 516833... any issues?

How many times must it be repeated here: Mature blocks are paid out when the next block after it is found.

Quite often it gets picked up by the next network block or so, but yes...another block along the way by anyone must be "cracked" before any payouts from the matured block come out.  It's always worked this way...ALWAYS!



MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

Yes, I have def got paid out before a 2nd block, and usually upon maturity.

It's most likely going to happen when the mempool is low like now but not a guarantee.  That's why Kano always includes our payouts in our next block as a precaution.

No that was my mistake there, I'm not sure how I did that, but after I processed the payout, I didn't put it in the queue.
It's been sent out now.

First time I've done that. Guess I was tired last night after getting woken up by the KDB restart at 3:40am the previous night and staying up after that
Sorry about that, it was 10 blocks late being sent out, but is out now.

[Shazam!!!]

A question. How did you made web link out of signature?

You have to be a "member" for that privilege I believe. Although, it may be different now. Every "rank" has different privileges with
signature properties. Member Ranks and Privileges

Like This

Code:

[url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg34108690#msg34108690][b] Like This [/b][/url]

Just change the url to the url you want, and "like this" to the words you choose.


Edit: for anyone interested in the forum "codes": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1727100.0

[rifleman74]

No that was my mistake there, I'm not sure how I did that, but after I processed the payout, I didn't put it in the queue.
It's been sent out now.

First time I've done that. Guess I was tired last night after getting woken up by the KDB restart at 3:40am the previous night and staying up after that
Sorry about that, it was 10 blocks late being sent out, but is out now.

Thank you Kano-san!  I don't have my wallet plugged in so I wasn't sure if a payment had been sent out...but we're good now!



MINE ON WITH THE MAN, KANO-SAN!!!

[jhoren]

No that was my mistake there, I'm not sure how I did that, but after I processed the payout, I didn't put it in the queue.
It's been sent out now.

First time I've done that. Guess I was tired last night after getting woken up by the KDB restart at 3:40am the previous night and staying up after that
Sorry about that, it was 10 blocks late being sent out, but is out now.

Thank you Kano-san!  I don't have my wallet plugged in so I wasn't sure if a payment had been sent out...but we're good now!



MINE ON WITH THE MAN, KANO-SAN!!!

Just plugged my wallet in to do something else and I noticed it was there.

Thanks Kano!

[kano]

No that was my mistake there, I'm not sure how I did that, but after I processed the payout, I didn't put it in the queue.
It's been sent out now.

First time I've done that. Guess I was tired last night after getting woken up by the KDB restart at 3:40am the previous night and staying up after that
Sorry about that, it was 10 blocks late being sent out, but is out now.

Thank you Kano-san!  I don't have my wallet plugged in so I wasn't sure if a payment had been sent out...but we're good now!



MINE ON WITH THE MAN, KANO-SAN!!!

Just plugged my wallet in to do something else and I noticed it was there.

Thanks Kano!

Payout now has it's 1st confirm

[maddadata]

@kano is there a way to verify if my current rented shares are trash shares or actually helpful? Currently have around 4-5hrs left on my 1.2ph order. Would be more than willing to redirect to a test pool for research if needed.

The October problem was 100PH for an extended period of time, but was not enough to point fingers, only to vaguely wave hands.
So no, you can't use that small a sample to determine it's validity.

MRR I ban randomly, when I find them, but I don't look too hard for them, and I'd expect it to be rare for anyone to use MRR, coz the cost there is even higher than craphash, so it makes it a bad idea for anyone actually working out the cost/return.

Using my calculator page ... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php ... at the moment your 'expected' 100% PPS return per TH/s is (there at the top)
0.000002984061 BTC per hour
So whatever you pay, when you add on fees and transaction fees at MRR, you will be paying higher than that, so you are expecting to lose.

craphash likes to hide the fees by having the market show pre-fee values, and then adding fees on top for buyers and charging sellers fees on those numbers also.
Both those fees are based on the market value, so they are indeed obscuring the fees ... then you have the fees for moving BTC in and out of craphash also ...
... then of course there was the magical cold wallet hack ...

Bottom line is, since there's a financial advantage, to withhold blocks, for people selling hash rate using PPS, then since October, whenever I find rentals, I straight out block them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002086.0

To top it off, when you rent a miner, where is that miner?
Is it running through some other proxy adding latency on top of the latency from wherever that miner is, on it's path to the pool?
No idea

@ Kano...Would you go so far as to say that rentals are officially not welcome at Kanopool and will be banned upon discovery, even if a few have manged to fly under your radar screen?  For the clarity of your miners now and future forseeable?

[kano]

@kano is there a way to verify if my current rented shares are trash shares or actually helpful? Currently have around 4-5hrs left on my 1.2ph order. Would be more than willing to redirect to a test pool for research if needed.

The October problem was 100PH for an extended period of time, but was not enough to point fingers, only to vaguely wave hands.
So no, you can't use that small a sample to determine it's validity.

MRR I ban randomly, when I find them, but I don't look too hard for them, and I'd expect it to be rare for anyone to use MRR, coz the cost there is even higher than craphash, so it makes it a bad idea for anyone actually working out the cost/return.

Using my calculator page ... http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php ... at the moment your 'expected' 100% PPS return per TH/s is (there at the top)
0.000002984061 BTC per hour
So whatever you pay, when you add on fees and transaction fees at MRR, you will be paying higher than that, so you are expecting to lose.

craphash likes to hide the fees by having the market show pre-fee values, and then adding fees on top for buyers and charging sellers fees on those numbers also.
Both those fees are based on the market value, so they are indeed obscuring the fees ... then you have the fees for moving BTC in and out of craphash also ...
... then of course there was the magical cold wallet hack ...

Bottom line is, since there's a financial advantage, to withhold blocks, for people selling hash rate using PPS, then since October, whenever I find rentals, I straight out block them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002086.0

To top it off, when you rent a miner, where is that miner?
Is it running through some other proxy adding latency on top of the latency from wherever that miner is, on it's path to the pool?
No idea

@ Kano...Would you go so far as to say that rentals are officially not welcome at Kanopool and will be banned upon discovery, even if a few have manged to fly under your radar screen?  For the clarity of your miners now and future forseeable?

Yes that's also what I have said the past.

[padrinogtr]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

[maddadata]

@Kano, Thanx for clarification on the issue.  Sorry if it was redundant.

[Steamtyme]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.

What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?

Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3191702.0

[padrinogtr]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.

What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?

Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3191702.0

i forgot to buy one and i want to get this 841 goin i only have one

[firetreeactual]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

I think you can I remember reading about it somewhere. The problem lies in the fact that you can't daisy chain in any other Miners. I might be wrong but That's how I remember it being laid out.

What's the problem is your AUC3 defective?

Here is the hardware thread on the 841; HAggs has had some training at Canaan and may be able to shed more light on that question.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3191702.0

i forgot to buy one and i want to get this 841 goin i only have one

You're going to have to get one. It won't run without it. That's all that will connect it to the RPi.

[Shazam!!!]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

I don't think you can. The auc3 has 2 different cables to connect from the 841 to the raspberry controller. Also, be sure to get a usb to mini usbdata cable. The usb charging cables won't work correctly.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

can i use one 841 without the auc3?

*can * you do it? -- yes provided you are willing and able to do some surgery on your Pi. All the AUC does is translate USB data to I2C signaling and the Pi can to that natively. You'd have to google how to do it (better than Forum search).

Personally I'd just buy the AUC3.
And it's USB-A to micro-USB data cable, not mini which is bigger.

[padrinogtr]

thank you all
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday

[Steamtyme]

thank you all
just ordered one
ill get it Wednesday

Good call