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Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment. The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all! Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill.  I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys? Yes, even at 7 cents, I am losing money - but I am using it for heat so that helps offset it in my mind a little. I have not bought from insillicon but it appears that this is pre-order. It also seems that they are from China, so if you are in the US, be prepared to pay 27% above the $2,279 price. By the time March arrives, the BTC price may continue to decline or difficulty may go crazy again, so it may take years to get your purchase price covered beyond the power. Also, there is a slim chance that they may never deliver a quality product (or any), so be prepared to throw your BTC away. Most of the people on this forum usually wait until someone has actually received a unit and tested it out. Of course someone needs to be that person, so if it is you, please share your findings! Yeah, heating the house is good, I heat up mine a little when needed. Unfortunately it isn’t needed much where I’m located so it would be nice to make some miners heat up the water, since that costs a lot too. I’ve heard that Russians heat have transformed some of their farms to do just that in Moscow, I think. And yes, I’ve heard about the 27% and I know that it would take forever to get the ROÍ anyhow but at least the miners aren’t as expensive anymore. For example I payed for all my S9’s like $2300 each!!! And now they are like $400 with the power supply!!! That was a horrible deal! But that’s how it goes, you win some and you loose some.  I’m not sure about that T3 model, I think there were a couple more miners that put out lots of TH and use little electricity. My brother sent me a link like a month ago with the list of them but I can’t find it anymore. |
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December 27, 2018, 05:10:25 AM |
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As far as Inno is concerned they've missed the last 2 product launches if I'm not mistaken. This is going back to October when the t2t+ should have been shipped.
I'll dig a little more in my emails but I did have a back and forth going for a bit until they stopped responding, about the same time they sent a mass email that showed all recipients and the price drop.
Wow! That’s good to know! Thanks! I thought that they looked identical to the Antminers, just with an Insilicone sticker on the side!  |
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December 27, 2018, 05:20:03 AM |
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Yeah, 10-12 cents sounds about right for the U.S and of course isn’t acceptable to mine with at the moment. The 7 cents that they offered you for the winter isn’t bad at all! Although even at that price you will probably have to struggle with your bill. I was thinking of buying some of the insilicone 47th/2100w miners, which seem to be about the only ones that can still make a profit but I’ve never purchased from them before and not sure that they even have them in stock. Have you or anyone in this pool ever bought anything from these guys? Yes, even at 7 cents, I am losing money - but I am using it for heat so that helps offset it in my mind a little. I have not bought from insillicon but it appears that this is pre-order. It also seems that they are from China, so if you are in the US, be prepared to pay 27% above the $2,279 price. By the time March arrives, the BTC price may continue to decline or difficulty may go crazy again, so it may take years to get your purchase price covered beyond the power. Also, there is a slim chance that they may never deliver a quality product (or any), so be prepared to throw your BTC away. Most of the people on this forum usually wait until someone has actually received a unit and tested it out. Of course someone needs to be that person, so if it is you, please share your findings! Yeah, heating the house is good, I heat up mine a little when needed. Unfortunately it isn’t needed much where I’m located so it would be nice to make some miners heat up the water, since that costs a lot too. I’ve heard that Russians heat have transformed some of their farms to do just that in Moscow, I think. And yes, I’ve heard about the 27% and I know that it would take forever to get the ROÍ anyhow but at least the miners aren’t as expensive anymore. For example I payed for all my S9’s like $2300 each!!! And now they are like $400 with the power supply!!! That was a horrible deal! But that’s how it goes, you win some and you loose some. I’m not sure about that T3 model, I think there were a couple more miners that put out lots of TH and use little electricity. My brother sent me a link like a month ago with the list of them but I can’t find it anymore. Found it!!! One is Ebang Ebit E11++ which supposedly puts out 44th at only 1980w And the Asicminer 8 Nano which puts out 44th at 2100w just like the T3 If anyone had any kind of business with one of these companies, please let us know. Thanks!  |
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HagssFIN
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December 27, 2018, 05:53:41 AM |
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Ebang and Asicminer.co are both full of shit.
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December 27, 2018, 06:14:52 AM |
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Ebang and Asicminer.co are both full of shit.
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December 27, 2018, 06:25:05 AM |
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I'm saying that Asicminer.co people are criminal scammers,
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December 27, 2018, 08:34:06 AM |
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Block! by 1H... That's his second one recently - woo! |
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December 27, 2018, 12:54:28 PM |
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Block! by 1H... That's his second one recently - woo! Yay Block! This is our 1st of BLOCK THURSDAY! |
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December 27, 2018, 02:16:41 PM |
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Block! by 1H... That's his second one recently - woo! Yay Block! This is our 1st of BLOCK THURSDAY! If you are ramped up rewards seem to be about 4.5x what they were when we were at 200PH |
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December 27, 2018, 04:11:17 PM |
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If you are ramped up rewards seem to be about 4.5x what they were when we were at 200PH
And there is still about 40ph left of the big guys that will be gone in a few days. Then it will be even bigger... Lets Mine On and get two more blocks before the end of 2018! |
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December 27, 2018, 08:01:03 PM |
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If you are ramped up rewards seem to be about 4.5x what they were when we were at 200PH
And there is still about 40ph left of the big guys that will be gone in a few days. Then it will be even bigger... Lets Mine On and get two more blocks before the end of 2018! Most of that is failover....the 5nd for the big boys has almost come and gone, as evidenced by the 5ND and pool-size on the last payout. "555707 2018-Dec-27 08:14 12.42424958 25.554T 696hr 59m 48s 43.74PHs" The fact that we're right around and/or above that number means they're off. |
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kano (OP)
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December 27, 2018, 08:28:34 PM |
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If you are ramped up rewards seem to be about 4.5x what they were when we were at 200PH
And there is still about 40ph left of the big guys that will be gone in a few days. Then it will be even bigger... Lets Mine On and get two more blocks before the end of 2018! To clarify what you said so that people don't the wrong idea ... The big guy was gone almost a month ago - it was just his 5Nd ramp down that was showing in rewards. Yep even large miners get a ramp down The pool hash rate isn't affected by this, just the 5Nd hash rate for each reward, since it rewards all shares in the last 5Nd (and the 5Nd hash rate is simply an 'average' calculation of how long it took to get those last 5Nd shares) This last reward had a bit over 2PH of his ramp down left, but now it's effectively finished, with just failovers and a few miners here and there. The pool hash rate, on the other hand, has actually gone up a bit since then. |
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December 28, 2018, 01:58:15 AM
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As far as Inno is concerned they've missed the last 2 product launches if I'm not mistaken. This is going back to October when the t2t+ should have been shipped.
I'll dig a little more in my emails but I did have a back and forth going for a bit until they stopped responding, about the same time they sent a mass email that showed all recipients and the price drop.
Wow! That’s good to know! Thanks! I thought that they looked identical to the Antminers, just with an Insilicone sticker on the side! I’m mining with an Innosilicon T2T+24 right now, as far as I know they haven’t missed any product launches. The only thing I can think of that were announced but were never sold are their ETH miners. I’ve never heard of them scamming anyone by taking preorders and not delivering. |
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December 28, 2018, 02:38:46 AM |
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I have been offline for a month and still got a few hundred sat's from this one. that will just add to the dust that accumulated when I was ramping up... still hoping to be online again soon.
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December 28, 2018, 10:48:52 AM |
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I have been offline for a month and still got a few hundred sat's from this one. that will just add to the dust that accumulated when I was ramping up... still hoping to be online again soon.
Your situation sure sucks. We look forward to you resolving your power company issues and getting you back. I hope you have had many good holiday celebrations with friends and family in the meanwhile and that you all have a happy new year! |
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December 28, 2018, 11:08:50 AM |
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As far as Inno is concerned they've missed the last 2 product launches if I'm not mistaken. This is going back to October when the t2t+ should have been shipped.
I'll dig a little more in my emails but I did have a back and forth going for a bit until they stopped responding, about the same time they sent a mass email that showed all recipients and the price drop.
Wow! That’s good to know! Thanks! I thought that they looked identical to the Antminers, just with an Insilicone sticker on the side! I’m mining with an Innosilicon T2T+24 right now, as far as I know they haven’t missed any product launches. The only thing I can think of that were announced but were never sold are their ETH miners. I’ve never heard of them scamming anyone by taking preorders and not delivering. Well ... I do know of one case of about 100-200PH that they didn't deliver ... |
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December 28, 2018, 11:55:25 AM
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I was surprised since the Kano YTD on the home page was always higher than slush. But I see that right now it is lower. With the two soft months in a row on Kano, that drops the values down. When we find a block, the Week, Month, quarter and YTD will probably be over slush again since we get paid hundreds (or thousands) of times more per miner Th.
 Indeed. How about showing 2Y and 3Y results?   But in the end this is a bitcoin pool not a us dollar pool... You end with more bitcoins here! |
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December 28, 2018, 12:44:03 PM |
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Indeed. How about showing 2Y and 3Y results? I could easily add 2 / 3 year (simple adjustment to the query), but since this is past history (really no reflection on future since everything is random), is it really valuable to show? |
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December 28, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
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I’m mining with an Innosilicon T2T+24 right now, as far as I know they haven’t missed any product launches. The only thing I can think of that were announced but were never sold are their ETH miners. I’ve never heard of them scamming anyone by taking preorders and not delivering.
Sorry that sounds like their T2 turbo not the "+" model. The "+" had a spec of 32TH/S . These should have been sold and delivered in October some time. If you do have one you would be the first person that I know of, would you be willing to do a few images - Miner, Status page. You could create a topic for that particular model, and I can update the "current hardware list". Thanks for the info. Mine on |
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December 28, 2018, 04:51:34 PM |
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I’m mining with an Innosilicon T2T+24 right now, as far as I know they haven’t missed any product launches. The only thing I can think of that were announced but were never sold are their ETH miners. I’ve never heard of them scamming anyone by taking preorders and not delivering.
Sorry that sounds like their T2 turbo not the "+" model. The "+" had a spec of 32TH/S . These should have been sold and delivered in October some time. If you do have one you would be the first person that I know of, would you be willing to do a few images - Miner, Statues page. You could create a topic for that particular model, and I can update the "current hardware list". Thanks for the info. Mine on Yes, would definitely be nice to see! Thanks!  |
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