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May 07, 2012, 02:37:59 AM
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Subbed. Also, will you be posting any CAD pics? Thanks
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May 07, 2012, 03:00:40 AM
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So will this 2 a double or Quad fpga? Just wondering.
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May 07, 2012, 03:36:59 AM
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So will this 2 a double or Quad fpga? Just wondering.

do you have problem reading simon? its on the fcking OP.
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May 07, 2012, 05:51:18 AM
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So will this 2 a double or Quad fpga? Just wondering.

do you have problem reading simon? its on the fcking OP.



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May 07, 2012, 06:33:39 AM
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1 MH/$ is way less than I expected, but still very good!

Expect a rally of mining difficulty, guys. Grin

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May 07, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
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1, price.
500 USD for one, and will lower up to  20% if your order is large.
Will you be accepting Bitcoins (and/or other payment methods) this time?

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May 07, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
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just tell me where to throw my BTC at
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May 07, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
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That's pretty amazing. Here's hoping you pull it off Smiley
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May 07, 2012, 03:10:14 PM
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Its better than Icarus but i dont understand why not offering quad FPGAs. Much cleaner setup, less power cables, and USB cables.
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May 07, 2012, 03:28:42 PM
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Its better than Icarus but i dont understand why not offering quad FPGAs. Much cleaner setup, less power cables, and USB cables.


because we have a future plan, set up a rig by 8-16 Lancelot on a single mother board (which is less than 200USD cost), this cluster only have one 220V power plug and LAN ports (RJ45 and WIFI).
so until now, i still consider 2 FPGAs pre board is the best structure for balance the cost, size, yield, etc.


Temperature and fan control would be a huge improvement over Icarus.

Any changes to the protocol? ACKs when jobs are done?  or still waiting up to 11 secs for response?



i must say, icarus protocol is simple but efficient. by this protocol, one 20$ router can handle up to 70 icarus boards with a CPU usage under 10%. why all of you think we must improve this protocol?  Grin
certainly.... i must do some modify to support added functions.
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May 07, 2012, 04:12:40 PM
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Temperature and fan control would be a huge improvement over Icarus.

Any changes to the protocol? ACKs when jobs are done?  or still waiting up to 11 secs for response?



i must say, icarus protocol is simple but efficient. by this protocol, one 20$ router can handle up to 70 icarus boards with a CPU usage under 10%. why all of you think we must improve this protocol?  Grin
certainly.... i must do some modify to support added functions.
Does it work well with p2pool (with new workbase given on average every 10 seconds) ? GPU miners can choose the amount of work given to a GPU to control the latency which makes most of them able to work well on p2pool, is something equivalent already available or planned for the icarus protocol ?

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May 07, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
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Temperature and fan control would be a huge improvement over Icarus.

Any changes to the protocol? ACKs when jobs are done?  or still waiting up to 11 secs for response?



i must say, icarus protocol is simple but efficient. by this protocol, one 20$ router can handle up to 70 icarus boards with a CPU usage under 10%. why all of you think we must improve this protocol?  Grin
certainly.... i must do some modify to support added functions.
Does it work well with p2pool (with new workbase given on average every 10 seconds) ? GPU miners can choose the amount of work given to a GPU to control the latency which makes most of them able to work well on p2pool, is something equivalent already available or planned for the icarus protocol ?

certainly. this protocol can push new work to FPGAs at any time. and FPGA will handle it at that time.
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May 07, 2012, 06:36:11 PM
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If I were to give you enough money to purchase 30 Icarus and 30 Lancelot miners today, what would be your estimated delivery date for both orders given everything you have today? (I do realize you still have a lot of development and it might be hard to estimate, but I figure it is still worth asking, in case I want to purchase Icarus for possible use or resale.) Thanks.
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May 07, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Well,as you know BFL's shipping time is,hhmm,slow........& the lower wattage of Lancelot is a +.

But mostly,all but BFL's hash rates are pretty low=long ROI.Almost $600 for 300+ mh/s takes close to 15 months to recoup investment.

I hope to encourage higher hash rates by investing Cool

Also being unemployed,I can only come up with $500-$600 a pop  Embarrassed

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May 07, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Well,as you know BFL's shipping time is,hhmm,slow........& the lower wattage of Lancelot is a +.

But mostly,all but BFL's hash rates are pretty low=long ROI.Almost $600 for 300+ mh/s takes close to 15 months to recoup investment.

I hope to encourage higher hash rates by investing Cool

Also being unemployed,I can only come up with $500-$600 a pop  Embarrassed

Yea but you can save up and buy a BFL single. Lancelot should've been at least 4 Spartans. There are 3 competitors that offer good prices (Well 1 out of 3)

1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49180.0    <----- $1,359.00
2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79114.0    <----- $1,069.99
3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.0    <----- $640

All these are Quads. They also got doubles.

PS. Kinda have to go, I'll post more info soon. Don't kill me just yet lol.
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May 07, 2012, 10:33:45 PM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Well,as you know BFL's shipping time is,hhmm,slow........& the lower wattage of Lancelot is a +.

But mostly,all but BFL's hash rates are pretty low=long ROI.Almost $600 for 300+ mh/s takes close to 15 months to recoup investment.

I hope to encourage higher hash rates by investing Cool

Also being unemployed,I can only come up with $500-$600 a pop  Embarrassed

Yea but you can save up and buy a BFL single. Lancelot should've been at least 4 Spartans. There are 3 competitors that offer good prices (Well 1 out of 3)

1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49180.0    <----- $1,359.00
2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79114.0    <----- $1,069.99
3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.0    <----- $640

All these are Quads. They also got doubles.

PS. Kinda have to go, I'll post more info soon. Don't kill me just yet lol.

Small problem, BFLs use twice as much power per mhash and thus take much longer to pay themselves off, and you also have to start paying attention to cooling problems as well.

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May 07, 2012, 10:56:33 PM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Simple as that: They must have found a way to get chips that usually cost $2000-4000 each for less than $200.

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May 07, 2012, 11:08:39 PM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Simple as that: They must have found a way to get chips that usually cost $2000-4000 each for less than $200.

Some people think they've found a source for used or unwanted chips, which is pretty sneaky^Wbusiness savvy.

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May 08, 2012, 12:38:16 AM
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500+ mh/s for $500 or so??? Even without any warranty I may be in for some  Grin

Good Luck !!!!!!!!

Can you explain why you're excited when BFL offers more MH/s/$?  I like having competition, but I'm not getting it?

Well,as you know BFL's shipping time is,hhmm,slow........& the lower wattage of Lancelot is a +.

But mostly,all but BFL's hash rates are pretty low=long ROI.Almost $600 for 300+ mh/s takes close to 15 months to recoup investment.

I hope to encourage higher hash rates by investing Cool

Also being unemployed,I can only come up with $500-$600 a pop  Embarrassed

Yea but you can save up and buy a BFL single. Lancelot should've been at least 4 Spartans. There are 3 competitors that offer good prices (Well 1 out of 3)

1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49180.0    <----- $1,359.00
2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79114.0    <----- $1,069.99
3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.0    <----- $640

All these are Quads. They also got doubles.

PS. Kinda have to go, I'll post more info soon. Don't kill me just yet lol.

Small problem, BFLs use twice as much power per mhash and thus take much longer to pay themselves off, and you also have to start paying attention to cooling problems as well.

So I looked into the power issue, and say that the BFL does produce 832MH/s @ 80 watts. Hardware break even is 328 days. Lancelot if it pushes 500MH/s @ 25 watts. 1 year, 102 days. This is with the current price of BTC and a 0.103 kw/h cost of electricity. If the calculator is wrong, sue me - http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

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May 08, 2012, 01:19:58 AM
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OP please don't kill me lol. I know that you're trying to sell your product and at 250mh/s per chip is not that bad. I said something about your board still being under production. I think you should up it up with 4 fpga's on to it. That's about 1gh/s at @ ~50 watts (I think lol).
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