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July 01, 2012, 03:20:51 AM
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I've created a new thread to sell my Icarus boards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90956.0
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July 01, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
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So this project is never done huh ?  Roll Eyes

Its now July already.
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July 01, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
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Boards were completed, but bitstream issues were encountered, I think in the light of *** announcement hes wound down the project.

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July 01, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
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Boards were completed, but bitstream issues were encountered, I think in the light of *** announcement hes wound down the project.

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So now *** automatically gets censored to *** in this forum subsection Huh
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July 01, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
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So now *** automatically gets censored to *** in this forum subsection Huh

No its just that every thread seems to mention ***
So astute persons self censor in the face of every thread containing *** either in the heading or the body.

I dont like to mention *** in a thread that clearly isnt about *** <grins>

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July 01, 2012, 05:19:19 PM
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If this is only a bitstream issue i sugest to start selling without bitstream for those that want to order development version. They will easy download bitstream later. And now loded it with Icarus bitstream.
It's really not long when BFL wil release their ASIC's so this project needs to be realesed very soon. Other way only few person will buy it. Perssonaly I buy it only becuse it can be used for something else and I have few projects in my work where FPGA's can have their jobs to be done.
Development boards costs enormous amount of money so Lancelot is real candy on the cake.
ngzang HURRY UP.

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July 01, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
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i sugest to start selling without bitstream for those that want to order development version

If it were just a case of installing the icarus bitstream, even the 200mhz version, then I think ngzhang may have already done this.
Perhaps there are other issues too.

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July 07, 2012, 09:31:07 PM
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I'm a huge ngzhang fan; the open-source nature of Icarus is the biggest reason why I think Icarus was such a special project.

I just wanted to say that we are making a fundamental assumption here: that BFL is doing its own design work. It is possible that it simply acquired the work that another company was already doing, and thus got the jump on development efforts. (For example, it might be that LargeCoin is much further along, developmentally, and they either partnered with or were bought out by, BFL with an agreement about money influx.) So it is very possible that even though BFL hasn't actually put any money into real ASIC design, they are using their reputation from the prior minirigs and singles to help LargeCoin, which got a lot of flak for an unfair business plan.
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July 07, 2012, 10:10:15 PM
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[stuff]

Seriously?  Perhaps this is better posted in the speculation sub-forum since it has nothing to do with the icarus hardware.

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July 08, 2012, 04:39:11 AM
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I  think the point is:
if ngzang can not come up with an ASIC project soon he will be out of the market in about 8 months like all the others FGPAs producers.
I'm very sorry for him because I'm a big fan and I would be happy see a ngzang ASIC.
It would be nice if the community could help him to find a financier instead of pushing him to hurry in a project without hope, he will waste only money and time.
I'm sorry if I disappoint anyone with my post but the strategy of BFL is working.

Dexter you are also saying "Perssonaly I buy it only becuse it can be used for something else"
In other words he should produce in hurry a device that will not be competitive , and that will ruin him, so you could use it for something else.
Good luck.

ChiangYay

If this is only a bitstream issue i sugest to start selling without bitstream for those that want to order development version. They will easy download bitstream later. And now loded it with Icarus bitstream.
It's really not long when BFL wil release their ASIC's so this project needs to be realesed very soon. Other way only few person will buy it. Perssonaly I buy it only becuse it can be used for something else and I have few projects in my work where FPGA's can have their jobs to be done.
Development boards costs enormous amount of money so Lancelot is real candy on the cake.
ngzang HURRY UP.
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July 08, 2012, 09:03:53 AM
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Ngzang, can Lancelot be equipped with cache and programmed to mine Litecoins, too? I'm still in for buying in that case!

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July 08, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
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I  think the point is:
if ngzang can not come up with an ASIC project soon he will be out of the market in about 8 months like all the others FGPAs producers.
I'm very sorry for him because I'm a big fan and I would be happy see a ngzang ASIC.
It would be nice if the community could help him to find a financier instead of pushing him to hurry in a project without hope, he will waste only money and time.
I'm sorry if I disappoint anyone with my post but the strategy of BFL is working.

Dexter you are also saying "Perssonaly I buy it only becuse it can be used for something else"
In other words he should produce in hurry a device that will not be competitive , and that will ruin him, so you could use it for something else.
Good luck.

I doubt that BFL will come up with a ASICS anytime soon, in my opinion thats just a marketing strategy. Even if they would come up with ASIC - the next generation FPGA (28 nm) is allready on the market (You know if the ASICS will be merged mining capable?).

Thats why the GMP https://cryptostocks.com/securities/9 will work with boards that incoroporates Spartan 6 or even Artix 7 the bitstream problem will be solved, the hardware design of Lancelot looks great and is very usable, aswell as the fact that Lancelot is an open project BFL is not.

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July 08, 2012, 09:52:11 PM
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<sigh> another hijack about ***.  There are plenty of other threads with *** speculation.

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July 08, 2012, 10:02:58 PM
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<sigh> another hijack about ***.  There are plenty of other threads with *** speculation.

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What's so bad about that? People want to know if it makes sense to even invest in FPGA's anymore at all at this point.
Give me a reason that I don't have to throw away my investment after difficulty skyrockets...so far there were very few things you can do with FPGAs, if any.
And taking that risk is just not a smart business decision.

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July 08, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
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[stuff]


erm, read back dude, I was talking about the two thread hijackers, your thread was actually quite interesting.
I think once difficulty raises too high ppl will get real interested in rolling bitstreams that will do litecoin.

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July 09, 2012, 05:07:24 AM
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I  think the point is:
if ngzang can not come up with an ASIC project soon he will be out of the market in about 8 months like all the others FGPAs producers.
I'm very sorry for him because I'm a big fan and I would be happy see a ngzang ASIC.
It would be nice if the community could help him to find a financier instead of pushing him to hurry in a project without hope, he will waste only money and time.
I'm sorry if I disappoint anyone with my post but the strategy of BFL is working.

Dexter you are also saying "Perssonaly I buy it only becuse it can be used for something else"
In other words he should produce in hurry a device that will not be competitive , and that will ruin him, so you could use it for something else.
Good luck.

I doubt that BFL will come up with a ASICS anytime soon, in my opinion thats just a marketing strategy. Even if they would come up with ASIC - the next generation FPGA (28 nm) is allready on the market (You know if the ASICS will be merged mining capable?).

Thats why the GMP https://cryptostocks.com/securities/9 will work with boards that incoroporates Spartan 6 or even Artix 7 the bitstream problem will be solved, the hardware design of Lancelot looks great and is very usable, aswell as the fact that Lancelot is an open project BFL is not.


You don't know what Artix 7 is and how much it cost. 
 
You are just a spammer using this thread to market your GMP B.S.
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July 09, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
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You don't know what Artix 7 is and how much it cost.
 
You are just a spammer using this thread to market your GMP B.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xilinx
The Artix-7 family delivers 50 percent lower power and 35 percent lower cost compared to the Spartan-6 family and is based on the unified Virtex-series architecture. Xilinx claims that Artix-7 FPGAs deliver the performance required to address cost-sensitive, high-volume markets previously served by ASSPs, ASICs, and low-cost FPGAs. The Artix family is designed to address the small form factor and low power performance requirements of battery-powered portable ultrasound equipment, commercial digital camera lens control, and military avionics and communications equipment

According to my sources Artix7 (28nm) evaluation versions are allready out on the market and will be fully avalable early next year. The price depends on the casing and features of the chip. (Of course i cant talk about other markets then DACH) but avarage pricing for the comercial grade will be around 200 dollar.

Its not nice to write in a such offensive way, since you dnt seems to have any clou who i am. Of course i promote the GLARI mining project it will use Lancelot boards and we fully stand behind the development of ngzhang.
Instead of arguing that the Artix7 is the wrong chip for the mining purpose and you would suggest an other one, you just attack - that doesnt show yourself in a good light ChiangYay

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You don't know what Artix 7 is and how much it cost.
 
You are just a spammer using this thread to market your GMP B.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xilinx
The Artix-7 family delivers 50 percent lower power and 35 percent lower cost compared to the Spartan-6 family and is based on the unified Virtex-series architecture. Xilinx claims that Artix-7 FPGAs deliver the performance required to address cost-sensitive, high-volume markets previously served by ASSPs, ASICs, and low-cost FPGAs. The Artix family is designed to address the small form factor and low power performance requirements of battery-powered portable ultrasound equipment, commercial digital camera lens control, and military avionics and communications equipment

According to my sources Artix7 (28nm) evaluation versions are allready out on the market and will be fully avalable early next year. The price depends on the casing and features of the chip. (Of course i cant talk about other markets then DACH) but avarage pricing for the comercial grade will be around 200 dollar.

Its not nice to write in a such offensive way, since you dnt seems to have any clou who i am. Of course i promote the GLARI mining project it will use Lancelot boards and we fully stand behind the development of ngzhang.
Instead of arguing that the Artix7 is the wrong chip for the mining purpose and you would suggest an other one, you just attack - that doesnt show yourself in a good light ChiangYay


 
It's better to check what have already been said about Artix 7 expansively on the forum before  showing  just a search on Vikipedia.
>> low power performance requirements of battery-powered portable ultrasound equipment, commercial digital camera lens control, and military avionics and communications equipment<<
Here we are talking of Ghash/s not  digital camera lens etc..

For your info read this as an example from somebody working for a large company that is a huge user of Xilinx FPGAs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91710.msg1011562#msg1011562

[However, based on this pricing Xilinx has shown us for the Virtex 7 devices, I would expect the low volume price of the V7 2000 device (their largest ever) to be at least $10,000 in low volume.  The low volume price for the largest V6 device right now is over 12k.  I'd guess once the V7-2000T finally goes in to production, even if you could get the deep discounts, you'd probably have to pay 3-5k each.]

I know who you are. You are a spammer with nothing in your hand only bubbles. Even a monkey watching your site and the pictures can understand that.
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/9
 
Now go back to sale Stevia Rebaudiana Seeds from Paraguay somewhere else.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92077.msg1014475#msg1014475

Nobody here is so stupid to buy a share  of your ghost company and we like Bitcoin not Stevia Rebaudiana Seeds.
Stop trolling and spamming in this serious thread.
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July 09, 2012, 04:33:20 PM
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ngzhang,

What is the status of your project?  Any progress?

Are you going to release it?, or is it pretty much done deal (RIP), considering BFL's ASIC vapourware announcement.


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July 09, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
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You don't know what Artix 7 is and how much it cost.
 
You are just a spammer using this thread to market your GMP B.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xilinx
The Artix-7 family delivers 50 percent lower power and 35 percent lower cost compared to the Spartan-6 family and is based on the unified Virtex-series architecture. Xilinx claims that Artix-7 FPGAs deliver the performance required to address cost-sensitive, high-volume markets previously served by ASSPs, ASICs, and low-cost FPGAs. The Artix family is designed to address the small form factor and low power performance requirements of battery-powered portable ultrasound equipment, commercial digital camera lens control, and military avionics and communications equipment

According to my sources Artix7 (28nm) evaluation versions are allready out on the market and will be fully avalable early next year. The price depends on the casing and features of the chip. (Of course i cant talk about other markets then DACH) but avarage pricing for the comercial grade will be around 200 dollar.

Its not nice to write in a such offensive way, since you dnt seems to have any clou who i am. Of course i promote the GLARI mining project it will use Lancelot boards and we fully stand behind the development of ngzhang.
Instead of arguing that the Artix7 is the wrong chip for the mining purpose and you would suggest an other one, you just attack - that doesnt show yourself in a good light ChiangYay


Bull shit. You are full of bull shit.
It's better to check what have already been said about Artix 7 expansively on the forum before  showing  just a search on Vikipedia.
>> low power performance requirements of battery-powered portable ultrasound equipment, commercial digital camera lens control, and military avionics and communications equipment<<
Here we are talking of Ghash/s not  digital camera lens etc..

For your info read this as an example from somebody working for a large company that is a huge user of Xilinx FPGAs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91710.msg1011562#msg1011562

[However, based on this pricing Xilinx has shown us for the Virtex 7 devices, I would expect the low volume price of the V7 2000 device (their largest ever) to be at least $10,000 in low volume.  The low volume price for the largest V6 device right now is over 12k.  I'd guess once the V7-2000T finally goes in to production, even if you could get the deep discounts, you'd probably have to pay 3-5k each.]

I know who you are. You are a spammer with nothing in your hand only bubbles. Even a monkey watching your site and the pictures can understand that.
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/9
 
Now go back to sale Stevia Rebaudiana Seeds from Paraguay somewhere else.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92077.msg1014475#msg1014475

Nobody here is so stupid to buy a share  of your ghost company and we like Bitcoin not Stevia Rebaudiana Seeds.
Stop trolling and spamming in this serious thread.

Angry neighborhood bastard mod here.

Cool it.

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