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Given everything that happened the price of BTC is going back up.
Not that much price movement. Had I not read this post I wouldn't have suspected the slight price drop other than a weekend cash out.
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rdponticelli
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May 12, 2012, 12:24:53 AM |
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Given everything that happened the price of BTC is going back up.
Not that much price movement. Had I not read this post I wouldn't have suspected the slight price drop other than a weekend cash out.
The drop started before the hacking. And the funds stolen hasn't being touched yet. We may expect a drop when more people hears the news, and when (if it ever happens) bitcoinica's customer gets back their funds... |
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May 12, 2012, 12:29:03 AM |
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Step 1. Use existing stolen coins to force BTC price drop, sending holders into a panic, to the exchanges etc.
Step 2. Once Exchanges etc are full of fresh bitcoins, steal them.
Step 3. Eat a sandwich.
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May 12, 2012, 12:39:00 AM |
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Is Blockchain.info timestamps GMT?
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Saturn7
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May 12, 2012, 01:11:46 AM |
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Given everything that happened the price of BTC is going back up.
Not that much price movement. Had I not read this post I wouldn't have suspected the slight price drop other than a weekend cash out.
The drop started before the hacking. And the funds stolen hasn't being touched yet. We may expect a drop when more people hears the news, and when (if it ever happens) bitcoinica's customer gets back their funds... In the last 30 days nearly 2 million btc has been traded on all exchanges combined. 18,000 btc just in terms of volume won't do much even if they sold it in one go. But the damage it does on the perception of Bitcoin will be worst. I've sold the concept of Bitcoin to a lot of traders/bankers and they're willing to take the risk of trading btc for what it is, but if the exchanges / trading platforms can't keep their shit together than it doesn't matter how awesome Bitcoin is. |
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Raoul Duke
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May 12, 2012, 01:37:54 AM
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Coins just moved! http://blockchain.info/address/182tGyiczhXSSCTciVujNRkkMw1zQxUVhpThis is getting interesting. I wonder if the posting of the IP address that relayed the transaction had anything to do with this... http://blockchain.info/ip-address/174.99.120.73EDIT: It's also interesting that the remaining balance of 2.45614 BTC is the sum of that 2.14277 BTC transaction together with the 0.31337 BTC transaction... Those 2 weren't meant for them so they didn't touch the money and never will. What do they fear? Also, those 2600 BTC splits... the gang spliting the heist between the members? Wait! WTF! Isn't 2600 a hacker ezine or something? These guys are players! lol |
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May 12, 2012, 01:41:38 AM |
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NEVER DEPOSIT MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE
HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT TO COMPREHEND?
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May 12, 2012, 01:42:31 AM |
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It's a RoadRunner customer in Wilson, North Carolina. Also checked and it's not a TOR exit node (though that doesn't rule out I2P/botnet/proxy/etc) |
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May 12, 2012, 01:45:52 AM |
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Hopefully Zhou Tong will get the problem sorted out, wishing him the best.
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Raoul Duke
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May 12, 2012, 01:48:37 AM |
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It's a RoadRunner customer in Wilson, North Carolina. Also checked and it's not a TOR exit node (though that doesn't rule out I2P/botnet/proxy/etc) I edited my post above. Some more interesting conclusions |
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May 12, 2012, 01:54:51 AM |
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Step 1: Send all your bitcoins to yourself Step 2: Make a forum post claiming a hacker stole all your coins Step 3: ?? ?? Step 4: Profit |
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Raoul Duke
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May 12, 2012, 01:56:05 AM |
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Step 1: Send all your bitcoins to yourself Step 2: Make a forum post claiming a hacker stole all your coins Step 3:  ?? Step 4: Profit Yeah, the part where Z was the only one awake is too convenient... /tinfoilhat |
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Maged
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May 12, 2012, 01:56:23 AM |
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Two things I noticed:
1) This transaction was almost certainly made with the Satoshi client.
2) That also means that the client was shut down as soon as the first transaction was confirmed. Otherwise, the other transactions would have been included.
Based on the timings, I suspect that the attacker may be from the US. Additionally, they either have a full-time job, or are a student.
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May 12, 2012, 02:02:08 AM |
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Step 1: Send all your bitcoins to yourself Step 2: Make a forum post claiming a hacker stole all your coins Step 3: ?? Step 4: Profit Yeah, the part where Z was the only one awake is too convenient... /tinfoilhat I'd like to see some logs.. |
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Raoul Duke
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May 12, 2012, 02:03:27 AM |
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Two things I noticed:
1) This transaction was almost certainly made with the Satoshi client.
2) That also means that the client was shut down as soon as the first transaction was confirmed. Otherwise, the other transactions would have been included.
Based on the timings, I suspect that the attacker may be from the US. Additionally, they either have a full-time job, or are a student.
But the 80 BTC transaction that was inbetween the 2 tx left out was included. There is some flaw in your logic, Maged. |
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May 12, 2012, 02:03:59 AM |
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Two things I noticed:
1) This transaction was almost certainly made with the Satoshi client.
2) That also means that the client was shut down as soon as the first transaction was confirmed. Otherwise, the other transactions would have been included.
Based on the timings, I suspect that the attacker may be from the US. Additionally, they either have a full-time job, or are a student.
And precisely how did you determine the client used? Is the Satoshi client more easily identifiable through its transactions over other clients? |
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May 12, 2012, 02:04:42 AM |
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Coins just moved! http://blockchain.info/address/182tGyiczhXSSCTciVujNRkkMw1zQxUVhpThis is getting interesting. I wonder if the posting of the IP address that relayed the transaction had anything to do with this... http://blockchain.info/ip-address/174.99.120.73EDIT: It's also interesting that the remaining balance of 2.45614 BTC is the sum of that 2.14277 BTC transaction together with the 0.31337 BTC transaction... Those 2 weren't meant for them so they didn't touch the money and never will. What do they fear? Also, those 2600 BTC splits... the gang spliting the heist between the members? Wait! WTF! Isn't 2600 a hacker ezine or something? These guys are players! lol lol 2600 aka l0pht i haven't heard from those guys since 1998 |
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Raoul Duke
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May 12, 2012, 02:09:28 AM |
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In fact there were 2 transactions.
1 moving the main heist and another moving the 80 BTC.
This is getting interesting.
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May 12, 2012, 02:14:29 AM |
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In fact there were 2 transactions.
1 moving the main heist and another moving the 80 BTC.
This is getting interesting.
It wasn't interesting before? |
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Maged
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May 12, 2012, 02:17:53 AM |
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Two things I noticed:
1) This transaction was almost certainly made with the Satoshi client.
2) That also means that the client was shut down as soon as the first transaction was confirmed. Otherwise, the other transactions would have been included.
Based on the timings, I suspect that the attacker may be from the US. Additionally, they either have a full-time job, or are a student.
But the 80 BTC transaction that was inbetween the 2 tx left out was included. There is some flaw in your logic, Maged. Ah, damn. I missed that. Guess I take back what I said. We still know nothing. |
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