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September 09, 2012, 11:01:24 AM
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Prediction for what will happen. Nothing.
You think it is still a prediction that Goat is not going to sue Pirate?
Well, it's pretty certain for me.

And if Pirate will return the deposits - all except the ones for GLBSE PPT bonds, there will be hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people feeling cheated by Goat and Nefario. At least one of then will take it up to court...  And if the person won't be able to identify Goat (because, as we all know, Goat hides his identity) - then they will sue Nefario, since the guys have obviously been partners in this PPT-bonds fraud.

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September 09, 2012, 12:04:05 PM
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Prediction for what will happen. Nothing.
You think it is still a prediction that Goat is not going to sue Pirate?
Well, it's pretty certain for me.

And if Pirate will return the deposits - all except the ones for GLBSE PPT bonds, there will be hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people feeling cheated by Goat and Nefario. At least one of then will take it up to court...  And if the person won't be able to identify Goat (because, as we all know, Goat hides his identity) - then they will sue Nefario, since the guys have obviously been partners in this PPT-bonds fraud.

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

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September 09, 2012, 12:20:46 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

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September 09, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

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September 09, 2012, 12:24:44 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...

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September 09, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...
-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.
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September 09, 2012, 12:48:51 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...
-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.



For those who believe that the address 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM is of pirate, we do not care if HE lost money in zeekrewards, because at the moment of close BTCST he was about 500k bitcoins in their hands.

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September 09, 2012, 12:50:17 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...
-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.
Which one is the Pirate's wife twitter account?

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September 09, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
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-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.
Which one is the Pirate's wife twitter account?
So you don't know where is the Pirate wife's alleged twitter account - but you do know that she "has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter"
Yeah, that would makes sense... a lot of sense! Cheesy

If you don't believe in what Pirate says, how can you be so sure that he even has a wife? Smiley
I mean, according to my knowledge, the only info about Prate having a wife came from Pirate itself - didn't it?

Q - Are you running a drug ring and laundering money for Silk Road?
A - Are you kidding me? I live in the US.  If anything I was doing was illegal, my CPA, attorneys, and scariest... my wife would have my head.  So to make it clear, nothing I'm associated with is illegal.

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September 09, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
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Why are PPT issuers so scared of this ass hat pirateat40 aka PonzyClown?
Why can't you guys team up and apply some serious pressure on PonzyClown to end this fiasco?

I am sure  some of the PPT investors will back you up and help you to take down this scammer for good.


Ignorant troll detected. If he only knew what was going on...

NOTHING Smiley



Yes, You know NOTHING of what is going on...   Keep trolling...

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Goayt, did you send your evil ninjas with chop sticks to slice and dice scammer Trendon?
Do not forget to record it how this lowlife scumbag is begging for mercy while transferring back the stolen coins. LOL
NB! Ninjas chop sticks and not the Lego ninjas!

While reading what I wrote, use the most friendliest and relaxing voice in your head.
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September 09, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...
-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

It would also explain why Pirate was worried about the BTCUSD price going up too high. If he had been running the ponzi himself the BTCUSD price would have been irrelevant to him.

On the other hand, in the week after August 17th Pirate was still claiming to be able to pay out everything. If all the funds had been in zeekrewards then he should have known that he wouldn't be able to get them out anymore.

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September 09, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
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It would also explain why Pirate was worried about the BTCUSD price going up too high. If he had been running the ponzi himself the BTCUSD price would have been irrelevant to him.

On the other hand, in the week after August 17th Pirate was still claiming to be able to pay out everything. If all the funds had been in zeekrewards then he should have known that he wouldn't be able to get them out anymore.


Pirate has now in IRC today denied knowing anything about Zeek or having any involvement with it.

He has not deviated from his standard course of showing up every once in a while and saying absolutely nothing substantive about payments or even anything meta about why information is restricted.

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September 10, 2012, 12:24:16 AM
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Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now Smiley
I'm curious how Nefario would be at fault for this in any way. His system was used for the bonds sure, but he's simply running a service that allows pretty much anyone to sell whatever they've got shares of to sell. At the time PPTs were an investment (of debatable quality, but that's not the point I'm making). So Nefario did what he's good at. Running GLBSE (I imagine most people would be pretty angry if he just shut it down). So all we're left with is that Goat sold more shares of his debt with Pirate and that you think Nefario and Goat are best buddies, the same person, or all part of your tinfoil hat conspiracy (Be careful, Goat's psychic powers can penetrate through aluminum foil, that's how he brainwashed me).

But really I just want you to fuck off with your small pecker and crawl into a hole without internet for the rest of your life.

If you really care so much, Goat said that Theymos has seen his account balance. If you want to publicly out his shameful lying, just take that claim up with Theymos. The dastardly, lying Goat will surely be banned or marked a scammer for lying ways if your fantasy holds up.
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September 10, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
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Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com
How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.
Smiley What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...
-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

It would also explain why Pirate was worried about the BTCUSD price going up too high. If he had been running the ponzi himself the BTCUSD price would have been irrelevant to him.

On the other hand, in the week after August 17th Pirate was still claiming to be able to pay out everything. If all the funds had been in zeekrewards then he should have known that he wouldn't be able to get them out anymore.
My impression is that he was more worried about a sudden spike in BTCUSD price, like if he was repayed $100 to purchase 10BTC@$10USD/BTC and the price suddenly jumped to $12USD/BTC then he'd be short several coins. Not that it matters much now.
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September 10, 2012, 12:45:24 AM
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Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now Smiley
I'm curious how Nefario would be at fault for this in any way. His system was used for the bonds sure, but he's simply running a service that allows pretty much anyone to sell whatever they've got shares of to sell. At the time PPTs were an investment (of debatable quality, but that's not the point I'm making). So Nefario did what he's good at. Running GLBSE (I imagine most people would be pretty angry if he just shut it down). So all we're left with is that Goat sold more shares of his debt with Pirate and that you think Nefario and Goat are best buddies, the same person, or all part of your tinfoil hat conspiracy (Be careful, Goat's psychic powers can penetrate through aluminum foil, that's how he brainwashed me).

Suing Nefario due to PPT bonds would be like suing the Nasdaq after Enron. Not terribly likely to be succesful...
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September 10, 2012, 01:21:16 AM
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Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now Smiley
I'm curious how Nefario would be at fault for this in any way. His system was used for the bonds sure, but he's simply running a service that allows pretty much anyone to sell whatever they've got shares of to sell. At the time PPTs were an investment (of debatable quality, but that's not the point I'm making). So Nefario did what he's good at. Running GLBSE (I imagine most people would be pretty angry if he just shut it down). So all we're left with is that Goat sold more shares of his debt with Pirate and that you think Nefario and Goat are best buddies, the same person, or all part of your tinfoil hat conspiracy (Be careful, Goat's psychic powers can penetrate through aluminum foil, that's how he brainwashed me).

Suing Nefario due to PPT bonds would be like suing the Nasdaq after Enron. Not terribly likely to be succesful...

I'm sure it would be TOTALLY worth while suing me, I imagine my hat and ocarina collection (both rather small) would be worth....something. Perhaps my phone? Or the nice pair of shoes I've recently bought.

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September 10, 2012, 01:30:21 AM
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I'm sure it would be TOTALLY worth while suing me, I imagine my hat and ocarina collection (both rather small) would be worth....something. Perhaps my phone? Or the nice pair of shoes I've recently bought.

Mmm, better be prepared though. Sometimes these legal folks have a "shoot first and ask later" mentality. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to take down GLBSE for some initial investigation - only to decide later that the request was not justified. Then you'd have to sue them back for the damage the take down did cost you... and everyone else.

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September 10, 2012, 01:33:52 AM
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I'm sure it would be TOTALLY worth while suing me, I imagine my hat and ocarina collection (both rather small) would be worth....something. Perhaps my phone? Or the nice pair of shoes I've recently bought.

Mmm, better be prepared though. Sometimes these legal folks have a "shoot first and ask later" mentality. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to take down GLBSE for some initial investigation - only to decide later that the request was not justified. Then you'd have to sue them back for the damage the take down did cost you... and everyone else.

Can't really take down GLBSE, attempts to do so would only result to us moving to a different domain and set of servers.

I suppose I've got a couple of pairs of nice sun glasses.

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September 10, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
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Can't really take down GLBSE, attempts to do so would only result to us moving to a different domain and set of servers.
Glad to hear that!

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September 10, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
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I'm sure it would be TOTALLY worth while suing me, I imagine my hat and ocarina collection (both rather small) would be worth....something. Perhaps my phone? Or the nice pair of shoes I've recently bought.
That's just what your lawyer would get in fees for defending you, at least if the legal system in the UK works anything like it does here in the US.

Just imagine all the trinkets lawyers must own, that or they'll all make good friends with pawn shop owners
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