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March 07, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
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Who is Cat at Bitquan?
These emails might be about BTC been transferred for payments of Amhash1 dividends though need somebody who can read chinese to confirm this.
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March 07, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
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I think the key point of this pdf is that Asicminer (at this point, it's actually David Fan I guess, as FC is still missing) denied their responsibility of
amhash! So Rockxie disclose all the emails between Rockminer and FC to prove that AM (David Fan) is lying! But I think maybe David didn't know
the mails between them?

exactly!
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March 07, 2015, 05:34:30 PM
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Who is Cat at Bitquan?
These emails might be about BTC been transferred for payments of Amhash1 dividends though need somebody who can read chinese to confirm this.
The official company name of Asicminer is Bitquan and of course Cat is Friedcat
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March 07, 2015, 05:36:33 PM
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This text is also very important, it seems to talk about AMHASH going bad 3 months ago, and some talk about disconnecting the miners and paying dividends out of sales, which configures a PONZI:

https://www.bikeji.com/member/16

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March 07, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
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WE need to translate this ASAP:

https://www.bikeji.com/t/1228

Yes we need it translated or we still are in the dark. I will check back in a few hours and see if any progress has been made.
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March 07, 2015, 05:40:02 PM
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Before seen such a website, but did not develop, is people do forget the domain name. Domain contains start, as if talk of the Chinese version of the hair too.
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@ Bear small two coins technology how could that be? Do not quote, ha ha!
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@ Star did not click the button.
3 months agoReply to the  lwp  theme created  >  About Cats will begin to roast prosecution matters described ASICMINER
Having had to say, things go, no reply. Over.
3 months agoReply to the  lwp  theme created  >  About Cats will begin to roast prosecution matters described ASICMINER
The wording seems a bit agitated before, well, deep breaths, patient carefully answer it.
The following answers are based on what I learned. 1. Since they do not know the price, it is the first to sell the chip it set a tone that the "low" price transfer of benefits, which is obviously unreasonable. I AM cooperate with me whether it is the largest shareholder relations seem unlikely. I and everyone else, it would only buy a stock only, and does not participate in AM's decision-making and operations specific to them. Which article of the law and the company's equity holders are not allowed in cooperation? Moreover, the formation of the RM my mind, is based on AM announced after the transition to chip provider, I am doing is completely complementary to the AM, after all there is nothing on the market at that time vendors and AM cooperate. Fortunately, I am also not the only one, but also several other companies, specifically how the price, the other partners are aware of this speculation or accusations, it really is hard to explain. As for other mining machine manufacturer to determine whether the price is reasonable, which is more ridiculous. Chip prices is not a simple comparison, but also involves many aspects. On the one hand, BE200 and expected outcomes vary greatly, and the package has been out a lot of problems, another important reason is because there was no suitable AM program, the partners developed their own needs, this point alone, the vast majority will cooperate Suppliers stuck in the door. I pointed out that so many have lost enough to understand it? When the price is not low, but high. 2, liquid cooling solutions IPO this thing seems I missed it, I do not know enough information, probably was busy with production, missing a lot of information. Again trying to make is, AM and AC company just mutual cooperation, plainly, AC is like a mine hosting party, AM spent the money and ask them to help make the program only. I understand the core technology, AM and AC belong to their co-owner, said plainly, both can be used. AC IPO companies want to use this technology, multi-deployment point mining machine, is understandable. 3, "three times higher than the industry standard to send the profits cloud calculate power"? Your only other home run in a standard bar. Cloud count before AMHash force has been playing bad, so cloudy counted force to return to this how many? When the price is calculated only after a long time to settle down a balanced price, guaranteed profits on both sides. Based on this consideration, since the outset AMHash intends to fight a sustained brand, rather than a flicker on the matter. Do not think this can have to sell now, at such prices, but also by a lot of people questioned, then 5P (including joint force mining operator side), even 1P did not sell, but also added a follow-up, The same is true. And last year's market has been totally different, not you sit at home and others clamoring to come to give money to the times. As for why RM to do, because without him, not enough manpower chant. AM is not a money dispenser, now short of money, not much to just send someone else.










3 months agoReply to the  lwp  theme created  >  About Cats will begin to roast prosecution matters described ASICMINER
Support for science and technology in line with currency, or answer it.
First, that conclusion: Do you think that is wrong. Question is no problem, but always say prosecuted under the hearsay stuff with their own imagination, I can only silent. Do not think that is OK, as long as the prosecution, the law of defamation as well as a say. The following points for the answer you listed: 1, AM and RM cooperation is entirely foundries and chip manufacturers of cooperation, the fact that the so-called low cost output price does not exist, let alone what the transfer of assets. In fact, we buy the chip, making the final cost of the mining machine, even higher than the wholesale price AM later, we bought so many chips, none of the group is to make money. RM and gardens, hashratio, as are all the more types of produce more losses. 2, oil cooler AM program is a program developed by the program last year, and Hong Kong is a liquid-cooled AC collaboration solutions company, later proved to be the cost of this program is too large, they finally stopped temporarily without. In other words, AC company responsible for providing technology for mining machine blade roast cat developed liquid cooling solutions, while AM provides the mining machine and a number of research and development costs. AC corporation nature and AM does not matter, but the program there, but the cost is too high, temporarily unable to use it. As you said a separate liquid cooling solutions on HL, I do not know anything about it, you do not know anybody actually, take a few minutes to go to the trouble to see a re-posting HL. 3, AMHash is jointly launched RM and AM, RM is equivalent to the underwriters, the force responsible for the operator and customer care to sell it, and this is no different from selling mining machine, a lot of things are already clear in the main stick in reply, You can see yourself slowly, do not repeat the answer. As for why no dividend, the company's AM and specific operations related to the overall market is not, in the case of much-needed funds, the funds will be available the whole part out, and then get smaller companies such as Beat? 4, AM abandon AM This is the second generation of management decisions, the current situation is indeed a blunder, then no one can ever properly, it will become a reason for being sued? As the second generation directly to the garden, it is nonsense, the trouble to understand what technology was used in the garden, the chip is 110nm, and it really matter chip or board are copied BE100, and if AM really use that technology, AM estimated long belch fart. Bitcoin industry risk than other industries are large, their investments fail, but you want someone else to pay, in turn, this behavior is no logic. Now the whole industry downturn, especially mining companies, the pressure is bigger than any one part, as AM shareholders, to make such remarks really should not, in the end result is nothing more than the AM in the dark, so that more people AM disappointed AM hit hard for the passion and confidence in it.














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March 07, 2015, 05:43:09 PM
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Here someone offers translation service for bitcoin:
http://www.bitcoinprofitgroup.com/index.php?/topic/152-fox-english-chinese-translation-service/
Do not know how good / fast he is. But would probably be the easiest option. Instead of having to rely on Google Translator.
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March 07, 2015, 05:46:38 PM
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This text is also very important, it seems to talk about AMHASH going bad 3 months ago, and some talk about disconnecting the miners and paying dividends out of sales, which configures a PONZI:

https://www.bikeji.com/member/16
It's not like that! But my english is not good enough to translate it, maybe someone will do it later on.
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March 07, 2015, 05:47:06 PM
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I like the word "prosecution" Wink

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March 07, 2015, 05:49:04 PM
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... the trouble to understand what technology was used in the garden, the chip is 110nm, and it really matter chip or board are copied BE100, and if AM really use that technology, AM estimated long belch fart. Bitcoin industry risk than other industries are large, their investments fail, but you want someone else to pay, in turn, ... as AM shareholders, to make such remarks really should not, in the end result is nothing more than the AM in the dark, so that more people AM disappointed AM hit hard for the passion and confidence in it.



So reading between the lines: they used 110nm chips!!!! they knew that was going to fail HARD and no way they could have been yielding the kind of dividends we were seeing!!, so the only way to maintain the illusion was paying from the sales.

I was right, THIS WAS A PONZI

HAVELOCK ROBBED ME MORE THAN 170BTC - BEWARE OF THIS THIEVES!
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March 07, 2015, 05:58:10 PM
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Here someone offers translation service for bitcoin:
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Do not know how good / fast he is. ...

So ur gonna send coin to another Anon?  To learn how first Anon u sent ur coins 2 stole 'em?
I think I'm starting to understand...
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@AirWolf
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and  they were technically involved as Asicminer's name shines on the website and their people were there.

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March 07, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
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Also, please don't mix Hong Kong with China.
Ouch !
Honk Kong is China. Since 1997. And will keep his money, politics and judicial system up to 2047.
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I know, i just wanted to show that in chinese the naming conventions that we apply in the western world seem to be different, am i right?
You are ignoring everything about China, and you want to launch a "hunt" after him, or his friends / family ?
Really AirWolf, try to be serious once...
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You are ignoring everything about China, and you want to launch a "hunt" after him, or his friends / family ?
Really AirWolf, try to be serious once...
Oh yes, we will if necessary! We do not think it would be a major problem. Unless they go hiding deep deep and change their names and lifestyle, have another family...

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March 07, 2015, 06:06:35 PM
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@AirWolf
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and that they were technically involved as Asicminer's name and people were there.

@l3sny

Using 110nm chips in late 2014 is, as i speculate it before, almost like a nonfunctional box, just for fooling us and probably HL and RM. to give you an example, I have 3 miners of 60GHS each bought in late 2012 that are based on 65nm chips , yes, you read it right 2012.

To build a farm over first generation chips in 2014 an sell cloudmining shares of it is outright SCAM and paying dividends over it is a PONZI.

LETS NOT FOOL OURSELVES OVER THIS. WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED ENOUGH

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March 07, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
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I know, i just wanted to show that in chinese the naming conventions that we apply in the western world seem to be different, am i right?
You are ignoring everything about China, and you want to launch a "hunt" after him, or his friends / family ?
Really AirWolf, try to be serious once...

I AM HUNTING DOWN MY MONEY TO CHINA OR TO PANAMA OR TO CANADA OR TO THE FUCKING HELL IF NEEDED...

live with it, that there are guys man enough to fight for what is own...

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March 07, 2015, 06:14:49 PM
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@AirWolf
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and that they were technically involved as Asicminer's name and people were there.

@l3sny

Using 110nm chips in late 2014 is, as i speculate it before, almost like a nonfunctional box, just for fooling us and probably HL and RM. to give you an example, I have 3 miners of 60GHS each bought in late 2012 that are based on 65nm chips , yes, you read it right 2012.

To build a farm over first generation chips in 2014 an sell cloudmining shares of it is outright SCAM and paying dividends over it is a PONZI.

LETS NOT FOOL OURSELVES OVER THIS. WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED ENOUGH

If that's the case it is true. And then of course all the communication about stolen miners etc. is bulshit.
I would strngly advise Mr Rock to go public and say the truth or else he may ruin the rest of his life in some nasty place. I am dead serious.

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March 07, 2015, 06:15:32 PM
 #2639

@AirWolf
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and that they were technically involved as Asicminer's name and people were there.

@l3sny

Using 110nm chips in late 2014 is, as i speculate it before, almost like a nonfunctional box, just for fooling us and probably HL and RM. to give you an example, I have 3 miners of 60GHS each bought in late 2012 that are based on 65nm chips , yes, you read it right 2012.

To build a farm over first generation chips in 2014 an sell cloudmining shares of it is outright SCAM and paying dividends over it is a PONZI.

LETS NOT FOOL OURSELVES OVER THIS. WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED ENOUGH

If that's the case it is true. And then of course all the communication about stolen miners etc. is bulshit.
I would strngly advise Mr Rock to go public and say the truth or else he may ruin the rest of his life in some nasty place. I am dead serious.

100% WITH YOU.

As i told you before, i never swallowed the "cat ate my lunch" story, that is just a decoy, those who believe that story are chasing a ghost.


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March 07, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
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The only purpose to use 110nm would be to show the hashrate then. but it would be a hell very costly...
Lets wait for some translation and further developments.

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