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[miaviator]

@BoB states:

That said, the coin burn plus @cmilian cheating is proof enough that relying on people instead of maths to control coin supply is a non starter & directly in contradiction to nakamotos original clever idea, that being people should not be involved in the process of deciding how many coins can be created.

@cmillian loses any respect he may have held with this classic Homero Garza style response:

Are you Slow or Plain Stupid?

Get you facts straight before accusing anyone of cheating.

[miaviator]

I don't have an account on GH. Could someone be so kind as to quote my last post where I mentioned that the 4,000 "accidentally staked" XPY would be acceptable as a token of appreciation for my diligence that saved BTClend over there for me?

[Paul Revere]

A joke, yet I was the one who discovered his total incompetency in regards to securing customer coins .  I know he is lying, but, just giving Cmilian the benefit of the doubt. The fool can't even figure out that telling the truth would have been less damaging than the absurd story he dreamed up to explain using the Hyperstaking keys. He could have just said they were testing to see if they were actually usable, and instead he chose to play everyone , ESPECIALLY his customers, for fools.

Interesting to know exactly how the pieces were put together connecting those addresses to BTClend. I was just the dog that dug up some bones that did not smell right , and someone else knew why they did not smell right. The fact remains, if I was not spending time relentlessly digging through the Blockchain, those shenanigans may have continued for a long time.

[bumpershot]

Is he going to keep them? That would be unethical. I think giving whatever coins that resulted from the hyperstaking as a bounty for discovering the activity seems perfectly reasonable.

[cmilian]

The scamdog Cmilian lying directly to the chumps that trust him with their coins:



Ya, "someone" removed 600,000+ XPY OUT of the BTClend wallet and staked them with the leaked Hyperstaking keys for 7 hours in one chunk (1,100+XPY) and then split them into three 125,000 XPY wallets and proceeded to let them stake and compound for a couple days, until I personally discovered this and with the help of some other members here positively traced it back to BTClend.

So which is it? Are you a complete and total fucking liar when you say the coins in BTClend are secure, or are you a total fucking liar when you say someone else moved those coins and did you a favor by going through all the trouble of inserting one of the leaked Hyperstake keys into some wallets and letting them run until you were caught? Common sense says it is the latter, that you personally moved those coins and are making up a pathetically unbelievable lie to cover your scammer ass.  Cmilian, I know you read this, which is why you knew that I busted your lying scamdog ass using the Hyperstake keys. Message to Cmilian : You are a complete and total lying asshat and a sorry excuse for anything that could be considered trustwaorthy. I will make it my personal hobby to expose what a lying asshole you and your scamdog partner Homero are.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37316/btclend-caught-using-leaked-prime-controller-key-to-stake-funds-they-hold/14
Archive: https://archive.is/OwS3T

P.S: Cmilian: I will accept a small token of appreciation for the time I spent uncovering that "someone" in your organization made off with over 600,000 XPY from the BTClend wallets. I think 2 BTC is fair for saving your entire business, since you are not capable of securing your customer's coins yourself.

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

[ladrx]

Looks like Homero is handling this conversion himself, since he has no devs:

[bumpershot]

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

So what are you going to do with the 4K XPY if not use them as a bounty? Donate them to charity?

[kken01]

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

ffs get off your high horse. paul is not your employee nor does he have any ties to xpy and is not bound to "help" you. did he cause damage by posting this? NO, IT HELPED YOU! not damaged
you act like a mini-garza. you insult people, downplay intelligence and try to avoid clarifying uncomfortable issues/facts


guess il have to find the quotes from Mr. Garza that are 1:1 same as ^

[Paul Revere]

The scamdog Cmilian lying directly to the chumps that trust him with their coins:



Ya, "someone" removed 600,000+ XPY OUT of the BTClend wallet and staked them with the leaked Hyperstaking keys for 7 hours in one chunk (1,100+XPY) and then split them into three 125,000 XPY wallets and proceeded to let them stake and compound for a couple days, until I personally discovered this and with the help of some other members here positively traced it back to BTClend.

So which is it? Are you a complete and total fucking liar when you say the coins in BTClend are secure, or are you a total fucking liar when you say someone else moved those coins and did you a favor by going through all the trouble of inserting one of the leaked Hyperstake keys into some wallets and letting them run until you were caught? Common sense says it is the latter, that you personally moved those coins and are making up a pathetically unbelievable lie to cover your scammer ass.  Cmilian, I know you read this, which is why you knew that I busted your lying scamdog ass using the Hyperstake keys. Message to Cmilian : You are a complete and total lying asshat and a sorry excuse for anything that could be considered trustwaorthy. I will make it my personal hobby to expose what a lying asshole you and your scamdog partner Homero are.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37316/btclend-caught-using-leaked-prime-controller-key-to-stake-funds-they-hold/14
Archive: https://archive.is/OwS3T

P.S: Cmilian: I will accept a small token of appreciation for the time I spent uncovering that "someone" in your organization made off with over 600,000 XPY from the BTClend wallets. I think 2 BTC is fair for saving your entire business, since you are not capable of securing your customer's coins yourself.

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

Typical lack of respect for someone who has helped you avert disaster, if your insane story about how some "rogue developer" took over 600,000 XPY from BTClend wallets and set them up to use the released Hyperstaking keys is to be believed. If I choose to remain anonymous online that is my right. I am not selling anything or asking people to trust me with their coins.  I can post an address to accept the gift of those free XPY that you do not know what to do with. Seems appropriate to reward someone who spent time doing your work for you. Please let me know if you would rather gift me 2 BTC or the "rogue staked XPY", I will accept either.

Edit to add:
BTC address: 13bZVi7udJEify4jes6ZjSVzNjURoTeaPx
XPY address: PR8Tekct3oQf166n8jE2Gw3AekLHzz6azh

[cmilian]

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

So what are you going to do with the 4K XPY if not use them as a bounty? Donate them to charity?

These will be burned.

[miaviator]

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

WTF?

Carmello you were informed the moment it was confirmed that BTCLend wallets were using the rogue keys.  Paul Revered did not resort to cursing or lack of respect when the keys were initially reported, only when your response lacked transparency.

You jumped on GH and started insulting people, literally:

Are you Slow or Plain Stupid?

Get you facts straight before accusing anyone of cheating.

And this was in response to a valid statement of fact.   

is proof enough that relying on people instead of maths to control coin supply is a non starter & directly in contradiction to nakamotos original clever idea, that being people should not be involved in the process of deciding how many coins can be created.

You are now in possession of coins which should not exist.

I'm certain the rest of the individuals here will point out the other factual issues which have been brought to light by this incident. 

I am just curious why you would jump into the fire with such hostility and disrespect?  By your own admission if it wasn't for Paul Revere you would have suffered more damage due to this incident.   

[cmilian]

The scamdog Cmilian lying directly to the chumps that trust him with their coins:



Ya, "someone" removed 600,000+ XPY OUT of the BTClend wallet and staked them with the leaked Hyperstaking keys for 7 hours in one chunk (1,100+XPY) and then split them into three 125,000 XPY wallets and proceeded to let them stake and compound for a couple days, until I personally discovered this and with the help of some other members here positively traced it back to BTClend.

So which is it? Are you a complete and total fucking liar when you say the coins in BTClend are secure, or are you a total fucking liar when you say someone else moved those coins and did you a favor by going through all the trouble of inserting one of the leaked Hyperstake keys into some wallets and letting them run until you were caught? Common sense says it is the latter, that you personally moved those coins and are making up a pathetically unbelievable lie to cover your scammer ass.  Cmilian, I know you read this, which is why you knew that I busted your lying scamdog ass using the Hyperstake keys. Message to Cmilian : You are a complete and total lying asshat and a sorry excuse for anything that could be considered trustwaorthy. I will make it my personal hobby to expose what a lying asshole you and your scamdog partner Homero are.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37316/btclend-caught-using-leaked-prime-controller-key-to-stake-funds-they-hold/14
Archive: https://archive.is/OwS3T

P.S: Cmilian: I will accept a small token of appreciation for the time I spent uncovering that "someone" in your organization made off with over 600,000 XPY from the BTClend wallets. I think 2 BTC is fair for saving your entire business, since you are not capable of securing your customer's coins yourself.

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

Typical lack of respect for someone who has helped you avert disaster, if your insane story about how some "rogue developer" took over 600,000 XPY from BTClend wallets and set them up to use the released Hyperstaking keys is to be believed. If I choose to remain anonymous online that is my right. I am not selling anything or asking people to trust me with their coins.  I can post an address to accept the gift of those free XPY that you do not know what to do with. Seems appropriate to reward someone who spent time doing your work for you. Please let me know if you would rather gift me 2 BTC or the "rogue staked XPY", I will accept either.

Yeah.... I wish I can give you respect, but I have a feeling that you only get respect from those who fear you. Hey but thanks for always thinking of us and giving us FREE marketing.

[Paul Revere]

The scamdog Cmilian lying directly to the chumps that trust him with their coins:



Ya, "someone" removed 600,000+ XPY OUT of the BTClend wallet and staked them with the leaked Hyperstaking keys for 7 hours in one chunk (1,100+XPY) and then split them into three 125,000 XPY wallets and proceeded to let them stake and compound for a couple days, until I personally discovered this and with the help of some other members here positively traced it back to BTClend.

So which is it? Are you a complete and total fucking liar when you say the coins in BTClend are secure, or are you a total fucking liar when you say someone else moved those coins and did you a favor by going through all the trouble of inserting one of the leaked Hyperstake keys into some wallets and letting them run until you were caught? Common sense says it is the latter, that you personally moved those coins and are making up a pathetically unbelievable lie to cover your scammer ass.  Cmilian, I know you read this, which is why you knew that I busted your lying scamdog ass using the Hyperstake keys. Message to Cmilian : You are a complete and total lying asshat and a sorry excuse for anything that could be considered trustwaorthy. I will make it my personal hobby to expose what a lying asshole you and your scamdog partner Homero are.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37316/btclend-caught-using-leaked-prime-controller-key-to-stake-funds-they-hold/14
Archive: https://archive.is/OwS3T

P.S: Cmilian: I will accept a small token of appreciation for the time I spent uncovering that "someone" in your organization made off with over 600,000 XPY from the BTClend wallets. I think 2 BTC is fair for saving your entire business, since you are not capable of securing your customer's coins yourself.

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

Typical lack of respect for someone who has helped you avert disaster, if your insane story about how some "rogue developer" took over 600,000 XPY from BTClend wallets and set them up to use the released Hyperstaking keys is to be believed. If I choose to remain anonymous online that is my right. I am not selling anything or asking people to trust me with their coins.  I can post an address to accept the gift of those free XPY that you do not know what to do with. Seems appropriate to reward someone who spent time doing your work for you. Please let me know if you would rather gift me 2 BTC or the "rogue staked XPY", I will accept either.

Yeah.... I wish I can give you respect, but I have a feeling that you only get respect from those who fear you. Hey but thanks for always thinking of us and giving us FREE marketing.

I exposed what you say was someone in your organization moving over 600,000 XPY to new addresses without your knowledge or permission. Whether you like or respect me is irrelevant, although a decent man would respect someone who saved his business from disaster. What matters is that I did it, and that you refuse to act with any common decency whatsoever. Not only are you completely incompetent at securing customer's coins, you are completely disrespectful to the community you claim to support and offer services to.

[bumpershot]

Yeah.... I wish I can give you respect, but I have a feeling that you only get respect from those who fear you. Hey but thanks for always thinking of us and giving us FREE marketing.

His theories on how coins were being dumped ended up being right. Because he went out on a limb and spent hours tracing transactions based on a crazy-sounding coin mixing theory that ended up being right, he gets respect. Also, he called me out once when I was inadvertently promoting the scam which gets him more respect.

What have you done to earn respect? To wit, Paul Revere and suchmoon are the only guys who have entered into this quagmire and emerged with more integrity. Everyone else has collapsed under the weight of the muck that surrounds anything involving GAW or XPY.

[Fargo]

This guy is giving the old "someone else did it who had access to our accounts" excuse garza did with the emails/pm's on hashtalk? How shity of an excuse: "ummm we had like 30 developers, but don't worry, that bad ones gone now guys."

It's a shame that if paul did not call him out, he would be dumping that extra XPY right now like nothing happened.

As previously stated, you're either lying. Or extremely incompetent, and have shitty security, either way, everyone should get their coins out.

[coinits]

The scamdog Cmilian lying directly to the chumps that trust him with their coins:



Ya, "someone" removed 600,000+ XPY OUT of the BTClend wallet and staked them with the leaked Hyperstaking keys for 7 hours in one chunk (1,100+XPY) and then split them into three 125,000 XPY wallets and proceeded to let them stake and compound for a couple days, until I personally discovered this and with the help of some other members here positively traced it back to BTClend.

So which is it? Are you a complete and total fucking liar when you say the coins in BTClend are secure, or are you a total fucking liar when you say someone else moved those coins and did you a favor by going through all the trouble of inserting one of the leaked Hyperstake keys into some wallets and letting them run until you were caught? Common sense says it is the latter, that you personally moved those coins and are making up a pathetically unbelievable lie to cover your scammer ass.  Cmilian, I know you read this, which is why you knew that I busted your lying scamdog ass using the Hyperstake keys. Message to Cmilian : You are a complete and total lying asshat and a sorry excuse for anything that could be considered trustwaorthy. I will make it my personal hobby to expose what a lying asshole you and your scamdog partner Homero are.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37316/btclend-caught-using-leaked-prime-controller-key-to-stake-funds-they-hold/14
Archive: https://archive.is/OwS3T

P.S: Cmilian: I will accept a small token of appreciation for the time I spent uncovering that "someone" in your organization made off with over 600,000 XPY from the BTClend wallets. I think 2 BTC is fair for saving your entire business, since you are not capable of securing your customer's coins yourself.

I dont think 10 Primes are worth the risk of damaging our business. Good thing you caught this. It would have been great if you had reach out to me directly so that it could have been taken care off sooner. However, I dont expect for you to do the right thing. That would have been done if you had good intentions, on the other hand you are just looking to cause damage.

Again, just cause you curse and lack of respect for anyone does not mean you are right. You my friend are nothing but a bully. I wish I had you in front of me. OH wait, just occurred to me you hide in anonymity. No wonder.

Why in front of you? Your are used to standing behind people while fucking them in the ass. That's the way a scumbag rolls. Fuckoff shit liar.

[suchmoon]

These will be burned.

TX ID?

Yeah.... I wish I can give you respect, but I have a feeling that you only get respect from those who fear you. Hey but thanks for always thinking of us and giving us FREE marketing.

Do you even know what respect means? Or how it's earned? Hint: not by declaring such on an internet forum. Grow up.

[coinits]

These will be burned.

TX ID?

Yeah.... I wish I can give you respect, but I have a feeling that you only get respect from those who fear you. Hey but thanks for always thinking of us and giving us FREE marketing.

Do you even know what respect means? Or how it's earned? Hint: not by declaring such on an internet forum. Grow up.

His idea of respect is to ask for it once he is caught fucking up and dissing the one who exposes his fraudulent ass.

[bumpershot]

These will be burned.

TX ID?

He said "will be". He's probably waiting for someone to finish doublechecking his analysis so he doesn't burn too many coins. At least, that's what I'd do.

[deep.throat]

I wish I had you in front of me.

Paul - I wouldn't worry. Carmelo is a girly-boy. Not much to him except his ability to try to smile his way through stupidity.