GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[keshuker]

Proof of ponzi

https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPromo/status/546943930143887362

[raskul]

75 BTC wall gone up on Cryptsy, wonder if that's vestman

haha, he'll never learn 

[suchmoon]

i have been part of hashtalk community since august, i have large investments in zencloud
im being critical for a reason, i still think they can right themselves.
they just need to realign with the crypto-currency core principles and do what needs to be done to have trust, decentralization, provability down and do whats right.

I respect your optimism. But honestly, how much of that alignment with core principles have you seen since August? This thread originated at the beginning of August (link to the original in the OP) and many of the red flags raised there were never addressed, some were actually ridiculed and denied by GAW explicitly (like blockchain proof of mining).

Every exchange user that anyone transfers coins to will be given a unique address right?

Plus all on HT that are talking about their stalled wallets etc, so with the claimed number of victims, you would think that there were more users.

Maybe they should censor the blockchain "soon"

Yes, you do or will have a unique address for depositing coins. But the Hashpoint premine is likely sitting in ZenCloud's cold storage, so it doesn't necessarily have to be in unique addresses for each user yet.

[bitpop]

Proof of ponzi

https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPromo/status/546943930143887362

Lmao staking requires blocks

I mean vestman is using new hybrid flex technology

[suchmoon]

they couldn't have dumped if you look at the blockchain

Well, I have to take your word for it, I haven't checked thus "tinfoil". Although SOME of the premine has to have been dumped by customers, and we can't really tell which coins are GAW's?

[bumpershot]

It looks like he's going for it right now. Bots are pushing the price up on Cryptsy. Tonight's the night. I figure they want it up to the $20 range before Paybase launches.

[Anonymousg64]

i have been part of hashtalk community since august, i have large investments in zencloud
im being critical for a reason, i still think they can right themselves.
they just need to realign with the crypto-currency core principles and do what needs to be done to have trust, decentralization, provability down and do whats right.

I respect your optimism. But honestly, how much of that alignment with core principles have you seen since August? This thread originated at the beginning of August (link to the original in the OP) and many of the red flags raised there were never addressed, some were actually ridiculed and denied by GAW explicitly (like blockchain prood of mining).

What im talking about applies specifically to paycoin, a crypto-coin is a community project, everyone looses when something isnt built right.
I dont think they are a ponzi, i agree that cloud mining is not good, especially from a trust standpoint, but the US has a reputation for being a bad place to make scams/fraud, they take it seriously (exept for the big banks).
Paycoin has all the right features and services to go mainstream, it just needs to be done in a way that continues with the principles required for crypto-currency to work. How can something withe purpose of decentralizing trust have central points of trust required. GAW needs to prove, using crypto technology and 3rd party web history sources, that they are not the only owners of prime controllers, thereby centralizing it.

[suchmoon]

So it looks like the coins sold at "retail" via Paybase.com will be used to prop up a buy wall on Cryptsy:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25119
https://archive.today/erGhz

Or maybe I'm reading this wrong. It's kind of oddly worded.

[corygto]

It looks like he's going for it right now. Bots are pushing the price up on Cryptsy. Tonight's the night. I figure they want it up to the $20 range before Paybase launches.

Yep, Josh said he has bots out all over every market. Looks like he's going to move the markets himself.

[Anonymousg64]

they couldn't have dumped if you look at the blockchain

Well, I have to take your word for it, I haven't checked thus "tinfoil". Although SOME of the premine has to have been dumped by customers, and we can't really tell which coins are GAW's?

not much of the 12000000 has been moved

[verloren]

Point 3 - Hmm never saw that video, but I guess we agree to some extent on this point by my answer above.  ( I am replying to point by point as I read them )  Ohh and to continue in the spirit of open minded honesty on the point, BITMAINTECH ( a company I trust as much as I trust any company in this unregulated crypto space ) confirmed 5ph of miners.

Although Bitmain did confirm the order of 5PH of SHA256 miner, we don't know when the hardware will get into GAW's hands, or what's it is even being used for (especially since XPY is now full POS instead of POW, or hybrid POW/POS). GAW still sells old hardware on their oneminer.com website, which means the 5PH order could be replacing their old hardware.

Every exchange user that anyone transfers coins to will be given a unique address right?

Then probably moved to a central holding wallet.

[keshuker]

Every exchange user that anyone transfers coins to will be given a unique address right?

Then probably moved to a central holding wallet.

Yes but every exchange user is given a unique deposit address right? So all the addresses created so far is 6k

[Jacques de Molay]

Homero wants to buy yours for 10.20 and sell for 20 so far.  The more people dump into this the more it mitigates when he sells and buys paycoin for 20 bucks on paybase.

[suchmoon]

Proof of ponzi

https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPromo/status/546943930143887362

Ouch

But it won't mean anything on HT.

Although Bitmain did confirm the order of 5PH of SHA256 miner, we don't know when the hardware will get into GAW's hands, or what's it is even being used for (especially since XPY is now full POS instead of POW, or hybrid POW/POS). GAW still sells old hardware on their oneminer.com website, which means the 5PH order could be replacing their old hardware.

Hardware on oneminer.com is most likely coming out of that 5 PH/s order. These are S4s, released in September, it's the newest generation of Bitmain hardware to date.

[maildir]

Looks like that little runt redacted got redacted, snippy little smart mouth thought he had it all figured out, prancing around their all smug and elite like gets completely fucked by his hero Homero.

[corygto]

Looks like that little runt redacted got redacted, snippy little smart mouth thought he had it all figured out, prancing around their all smug and elite like gets completely fucked by his hero Homero.

Yeah honestly it is so deeply f*****g satisfying to me to see redacted with all that salt in his mouth. He is probably the biggest a-hole on HT. Constantly rude and condescending.

What a great day.

[suchmoon]

Looks like that little runt redacted got redacted, snippy little smart mouth thought he had it all figured out, prancing around their all smug and elite like gets completely fucked by his hero Homero.

Yeah honestly it is so deeply f*****g satisfying to me to see redacted with all that salt in his mouth. He is probably the biggest a-hole on HT. Constantly rude and condescending.

What a great day.

What happened? Linky?

[maildir]

He is sniveling throughout this thread, him and the other genius had it all planned out to arbitrage but their coins are locked up and they did not expect Homero to do this right now.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25119/gaw-is-about-to-move-the-market/19

[maildir]

Easier to follow via the backdoor and all his replies here

https://hashtalk.org/user/redacted

Looks like the ninny has gone of line now to have a nice big cry.

[suchmoon]

He is sniveling throughout this thread, him and the other genius had it all planned out to arbitrage but their coins are locked up and they did not expect Homero to do this right now.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25119/gaw-is-about-to-move-the-market/19

Ok, so the $20 isn't enough, they wanted to do some trading on top of that? Good grief...

Definitely a fair bit of irony there. They had interpreted the things their own way and yelled at anyone who thought otherwise. I doubt this will change their attitude though.