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[rezilient]

bit-x already stopped their cloud mining operation in last december though.

[jetras]

Has anyone assessed HashOcean on this scale yet? I don't see it on the list...

[tmfp]

Has anyone assessed HashOcean on this scale yet? I don't see it on the list...

Ok, let's hash Hashocean, according to Puppet's original system:

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reserve mining risk

5) Referral program

6) Anonymous operators

7) No exit strategy

Refund offered 96 hours after requested, no reports of anyone successfully doing this.
Video card offered for 700 KH/s of purchases after six months. I read of failed attempt somewhere on BCT, can't find the ref atm

8 ) Bonus point for "guaranteed profit"

6/7, plus advertised ROI = 7/8 Full House probable Ponzi.

Indiana, would you be so good as to add this HashOcean to the steaming pile of crap pls.




And while I'm at it, let's do the one in my sig, BitClub Network

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.

They pass this one partially, with BitClub Pool , but you have no choice.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor

punin from Bitfury acknowledges their existence as customers prone to exaggeration

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter

Plenty of pics and videos showing their logo.

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reserve mining risk

Deffo fail on this one, by their own claims of Club 'membership' and my calculations (unrefuted) of their liabilities.

5) Referral program

HUUUUGE fail loma

6) Anonymous operators

Lots of mouthy promoters, but no principals or premises to arrest, sue or raid (the U.S. based shills will be liable to prosecution).

7) No exit strategy

Buy "your" machine and have it shipped to you = No effective exit strategy for 99% of their 'investors'.

8 ) Bonus point for "guaranteed profit"

They scrupulously avoid stating a definite ROI, using plausible reasons for self serving ends.

5/7.
Plus a discretionary 1 for the rapist.

Edits for grammar

[soyab0007]

so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

[suchmoon]

so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

[Indianacoin]

so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.

[suchmoon]

so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.

If I have one BTC I will still have one BTC tomorrow and 4 months later, 100% ROI by definition. There is no "shrink". There is no counterparty risk. There are no issues with hardware (real or fictional), difficulty, exchange rate, etc.

There is no "cloud mining" out there that would achieve ROI (assuming the poster above meant 100% ROI and not e.g. 20%) in 4 months so why bother.

[trinaldao]

so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.

If I have one BTC I will still have one BTC tomorrow and 4 months later, 100% ROI by definition. There is no "shrink". There is no counterparty risk. There are no issues with hardware (real or fictional), difficulty, exchange rate, etc.

There is no "cloud mining" out there that would achieve ROI (assuming the poster above meant 100% ROI and not e.g. 20%) in 4 months so why bother.

buying altcoin like ETH it's more profitable at this time than you hodl your bitcoin
im buying some altcoin and earning more than cloudmining 

[wishxy]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

[IanFoxley]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Tommy has now sent out three emails about this.

They had a problem with their server provider for their website only, so mining was not affected.

The site is up and running again now.

[secone]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?

[BitcoinSupremo]

Please add the newest ponzi scam to this list with Puppet ponzi risk assesment

Topmine.io

[aleandromagno]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?

Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

[maydna]

all investment in any of project will give risk, so please thinking twice of what you invest. invest of what you are ready to invest, if not, better not to invest anything 

[kingaltcoins]

Please add the newest ponzi scam to this list with Puppet ponzi risk assesment

Topmine.io

Lol they did not even worked hard for that site.

Maybe they should close down this road as we all not going to visit them ever.

[secone]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?

Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company

[tmfp]

Bitcoremining dot com. 7/7.

[aleandromagno]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?

Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company

it seems that you can physically visit their farm ..

Contact you can find on their website - https://www.miningsweden.se/contact/

here is review made few months ago: http://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-mining-sweden

here is thread about that:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092882.0

[alani123]

Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?

Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company

it seems that you can physically visit their farm ..

Contact you can find on their website - https://www.miningsweden.se/contact/

here is review made few months ago: http://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-mining-sweden

here is thread about that:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092882.0

I don't think that reviews from online blogs are to be trusted. It would be easy for any mining service to prove their resources otherwise, if they don't it's safe to assume that they're nothing more than a ponai.

[tmfp]

OXBTC..com manages a maximum 8/8, just like their predecessors Zeus and Halley.