▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁

[tobsnn]

--- UPDATED LIST (5/03/2016) ---

{Previous update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg13851631#msg13851631}

Please read OP thoroughly before studying the list below.

Note: Use the "Find" function (Ctrl+F) on your browser and type the name of a cloudmining site you want to find from the list and research thoroughly before buying a contract from there.


Ponzi's that have already collapsed as predicted:

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bitcoincloudservices  1+2+4+5+6*+7       => 6/7 = Ponzi (* founded by known scammer  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860400.msg9638868#msg9638868)
bitcoinminersuk.com   1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Lbtcl.com             1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitknock.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
PBmining.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Lunaminer.com         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
coinsoncloud.eu       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Cryptomine.io         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashie.co             1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinlabmining.com  1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi 
ltcgear               1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashprofit.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
minethatcloud.com     1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
CoIntellect.com       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
terabox.me            1+2+3*+4+5+6+7*    => 7*/7 = Ponzi (pictures are not at all convincing, exit strategy involves  60+ days stall tactic)
chabatmining.com      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Ecrypto.co.in         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ confirmed scam, they are no partners of cex.io)
GenerateBTC.com       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
cloudminr.io          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
grmining.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashwar.co            1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitrush.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
scrypt.cc             1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
Kryptologika          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Cryptsy MN            1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi ( + no details on fee structure) (withdrawl problems noticed!)
Coolhash.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
Bitminr.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
MineProfit.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
SpecialMiner.com      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi  (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
Scryptsy.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
cloudhours.net        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmaker.ch       1+2+3+4+6+7+8      => 7/7 = Ponzi

Likely Ponzi scams that have yet to collapse:

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coince.com            1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
fortacloud.co         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashocean.com         1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
HourlyMine.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
cldmine.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmining.me      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Skycoinlab.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ organized by serial ponzi scammer: ?topic=583177.msg10298730)
btcslice.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ pays out in reversible paypal ?)
cloudmining.website   2+3+4+5+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi
eobot.com             1+2+3+5+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
nexusmining.com       1+2*+3+4+5+7       => 6/7 = Ponzi (Guy from Spondoolies says im wrong, but I can't score what I haven't seen and he seems to confirm they have no hardware)
minerslab.com         1+2+3+4+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ selling hardware that doesnt exist + using purchased "legendary" account) 
cloudmining.sg        1+2+4+6+7          => 5/7 = Ponzi (Founder's LinkedIn account deleted, Uses Weebly's free checkout platform)
hashcoins.com 
and hashflare.io     ~1+2+3+4+7          => 5/7 = (very) suspicious (user selectable pool requires fee, dc pictures show no miners, linkedin profile doctored, hardware sales very dubious,..) (*now owned by hashflare.io)
Zeushash              1+2+3+4+5          => 5/7 = (very) suspicious
Bitminer.eu           1+2+5+6            => 4/7 = Suspicious (+ Pictures of their miners might be Photoshopped)
Miningsweden.se       1+2*+5+7           => 4/7 = Suspicious (*will remove as soon as I receive confirmation from Bitmain)

Rest:

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genesis-mining.com    1+2+5+7            => 4/7 = Probably legit.
pow88.com             1+2+5              => 3/7 = Probably legit (preliminary assessment) (Suspicious referral bonus : 1% hourly !!!)
Bit-x.com             1+4                => 2/7 = Probably legit (preliminary assessment, partnership confirmed by Bitfury)
haobtc.com            1+2                => 2/7 = Probably Legit (investment based cloudmining company => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0)
bw.com                1                  => 1/7 = Legit (1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg13605117#msg13605117)
Hashnest              1                  => 1/7 = Legit (1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg13605117#msg13605117)

Obsolete or suspended:

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AMhash                                   => 0/7 = Legit
KNCcloud              7                  => 1/7 = Legit
Cex.io                4                  => 1/7 = Legit
Cryptx PETAmine                          => 0/7 = Legit
Megamine.com          1+4                => 2/7 = Probably legit
GAWminers             1+4+5+~7           => 4/7*= Possibly/partially legit based on criteria set forth. Based on wider context: more suspicious than a nun squatting in a cucumber field

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Thanks

wow, thanks dude. you saved my ass love you

[suchmoon]

OXBTC..com manages a maximum 8/8, just like their predecessors Zeus and Halley.

To be fair they named themselves "zero multiplied by your BTC"

[d57heinz]

Something else one needs to consider before they buy a contract.  may look great now.. But wait till the halving kicks in and price doesnt go up till they are able close out all the contracts (if it goes up at all.. surely wont be double imo) i feel its most likely priced in for the most part... Even hashnest is a bad bet now.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1424240.0


Best Regards
Doug

[alani123]

I made a post on how hashflare is using fake reviews

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1425951.msg14423435#msg14423435

[aleandromagno]

I made a post on how hashflare is using fake reviews

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1425951.msg14423435#msg14423435

For sure it will be explained as BitClub - that an external service blew it

[soyab0007]

What does below statement means?

Contract length: Until is Profitable.

like once we started receiving profit, contract gets ended?

[tmfp]

Although it hardly bears mentioning as it's an embarrassingly poor attempt at a scam, hourlycoins.biz/ Hourly Coins Ltd. scores the maximum.

[alani123]

Although it hardly bears mentioning as it's an embarrassingly poor attempt at a scam, hourlycoins.biz/ Hourly Coins Ltd. scores the maximum.

This is far beyond cloud mining scam, this enters outright HYIP territory. It's obvious that they want to lure in as many bitcoins as possible before running away with it all.

[tmfp]

Although it hardly bears mentioning as it's an embarrassingly poor attempt at a scam, hourlycoins.biz/ Hourly Coins Ltd. scores the maximum.

This is far beyond cloud mining scam, this enters outright HYIP territory. It's obvious that they want to lure in as many bitcoins as possible before running away with it all.

Expect more of this crossover scamming, MLM/trad HYIP - Bitcoin with wide exposure thru social media and hugely inflated claims about growth of investor numbers.
Bitcoin is the new 'Forex', just another Dark Arts label to attract the moths to the flame.

[aleandromagno]

What does below statement means?

Contract length: Until is Profitable.

like once we started receiving profit, contract gets ended?

This means that when increase of mining difficulty or decrease of BTC price will make mining unprofitable, mining rigs will be turned off.

Ps. Keeping advertising hashocean in signature you risk "red trust". Check list in OP.

[daniele_83]

No mention of http://coindig.eu/ which is very close to hashocean I guess is ponzi scheme too
also missing https://www.nicehash.com/ in the list, this one could be legit

[tmfp]

No mention of http://coindig.eu/ which is very close to hashocean I guess is ponzi scheme too

Stunningly uninformative website. As you say HashOcean clone, apparently using their email database to 'invite' investors.
All over the HYIP boards.
Why even bother to think about giving them money, unless they do something radical like actually provide proof of anything?

[elrippo]

No mention of http://coindig.eu/ which is very close to hashocean I guess is ponzi scheme too

Stunningly uninformative website. As you say HashOcean clone, apparently using their email database to 'invite' investors.
All over the HYIP boards.
Why even bother to think about giving them money, unless they do something radical like actually provide proof of anything?

I could proofe my mining rig and let people invest all in one mining rig, and then .... Never mind, was intended as a joke 
cloudminer.io had some nice pictures of their "mining rig" and offered these contracts too, so, go get some gear and solo mine for your fortune 

[Karartma1]

My big concern is that if the BTC price trend will keep going up we will start to see all these new cloud mining schemes. It's good that this thread will always be here as a nice memory of what could happen.

[daniele_83]

No mention of http://coindig.eu/ which is very close to hashocean I guess is ponzi scheme too

Stunningly uninformative website. As you say HashOcean clone, apparently using their email database to 'invite' investors.
All over the HYIP boards.
Why even bother to think about giving them money, unless they do something radical like actually provide proof of anything?

Cant agree more with you, what about nicehash dot com?

ps: bitmach missing too (very likely ponzi)

[BitcoinSupremo]

The sad thing of those cloud ponzies, is when you look at their wallet. Both these websites I am going to list down are almost 100% scam if not 100% scam but their wallet keeps getting bigger and bigger ,now this websites show last transactions on their website to claim legitimacy to noobs. Stay away from all of these or you will never see your money (Bitcoin) again.

Hashocean
Bitsrapid
Coindig
Cldmine
Topmine

These are the most known ponzies and being promoted heavily in every HYIP out there, we have to warn people to not lose money in these thieves.

SAVE YOUR BTC NOW DON'T INVEST A SINGLE PENNY ON THOSE WEBSITES AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE CONSIDERED 8/8 PONZIES

Sorry for capital letters but is a warning for all the noobs thinking about investing there.

[suchmoon]

No mention of http://coindig.eu/ which is very close to hashocean I guess is ponzi scheme too

Stunningly uninformative website. As you say HashOcean clone, apparently using their email database to 'invite' investors.
All over the HYIP boards.
Why even bother to think about giving them money, unless they do something radical like actually provide proof of anything?

Cant agree more with you, what about nicehash dot com?

ps: bitmach missing too (very likely ponzi)

nicehash is not a ponzi, they're just a rental site. You pay for hashrate, you use it on any pool you want.

I have no idea about the other one you mentioned.

[daniele_83]

Thank you guys, I am not so noob, at least out of here.
Luckily I had been able to meet a person who already warned me about many illegit scams and not only in mining with too high returns.

I am developing some italian guidelines to help people with also what I am finding here, warning and spreading the word with updated infos

[Necrocide666]

Hi guys!

Just two points of information:

1) Topmine.io needs to be added to the list - (I currently have 10usd in it but this is as I enjoy gambling on these kind sites)
    The site fulfills a full 8/8, and even pay users in DogeC just for visiting  , I doubt I will see my 10usd again - but hey.

2)NiceHash is legit IMO (NOTE: OPINION is different from FACT), the reason I say so is that I have mined (GPU RIG) through them, they are an               intermediary between sellers and buyers of almost any hashpower, that take their cut from the trade. You can of course never make a profit as a buyer of hashpower, but selling it works out well. I do around 2USD a day using just my crappy R9270 and old ass CPU.  I will honestly never understand why people invest in actual cloudmining (with the idea of making ROI), but then again people are dumb. (Ref: see point 1, where I have 10usd in topmine )

EDIT: Their little app benchmarks your gear vs real time prices and switches mining algos automatically, quite nice. It is usually more profitable than normal pool mining because of the high rates that buyers pay


Love this thread by the way!

[daniele_83]

Hi guys!

Just two points of information:

1) Topmine.io needs to be added to the list - (I currently have 10usd in it but this is as I enjoy gambling on these kind sites)
    The site fulfills a full 8/8, and even pay users in DogeC just for visiting  , I doubt I will see my 10usd again - but hey.

2)NiceHash is legit IMO (NOTE: OPINION is different from FACT), the reason I say so is that I have mined (GPU RIG) through them, they are an               intermediary between sellers and buyers of almost any hashpower, that take their cut from the trade. You can of course never make a profit as a buyer of hashpower, but selling it works out well. I do around 2USD a day using just my crappy R9270 and old ass CPU.  I will honestly never understand why people invest in actual cloudmining (with the idea of making ROI), but then again people are dumb. (Ref: see point 1, where I have 10usd in topmine )

EDIT: Their little app benchmarks your gear vs real time prices and switches mining algos automatically, quite nice. It is usually more profitable than normal pool mining because of the high rates that buyers pay


Love this thread by the way!

infact cloud mining is very unprofitable nowdays... the problem is that hashpower is never enough even in hashnest and genesis-mining or other legit companies. There's only 1 reliable company I know which offers full power even at different rents price and get some profit...