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December 12, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
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Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html

From that page alone:

ticket-selling at a movie theater
other kinds of every-day commerce
analog or paper-based institutions
participate in e-commerce
Turing-complete block chain
efforts included state-machine replication
dawn of the general-purpose personal computer
other interesting trust-minimized operations
the much-discussed "51% attack"
the oft-used word
mouthful "trust-minimized"
the cashier and ticket-ripper
decentralized or peer-to-peer
new fiduciary-intensive applications
off-chain assets or controls on-chain ones
other chain-titled assets
dry (on-chain) performance
traditional off-chain
into a single chain-controlled risk pool
low-hanging fruit

-B-

WOW!
One more nail in the coffin.
The best part about it though, is that Nick Szabo is another pseudonym. FAAAAK




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December 12, 2014, 10:57:36 PM
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It's clear that Nick Szabo is Satoshi.



Anyway, I agree with him regarding the importance of decentralisation, but not on the BTC blockchain, there are better, less expensive, wasting less resources and less potentially harmful ways to achieve decentralisation of value transfer over the internet.
A decentralised network yes, but not the BTC one that relies on PoW mining...
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December 13, 2014, 12:42:47 AM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...
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December 13, 2014, 12:45:10 AM
Last edit: December 13, 2014, 01:03:02 AM by slaveforanunnak1
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...

So, nothing in Google trends.




http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Nakamoto%20consensus

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Edit:

Szabo and this guy
http://www.oreilly.com/pub/e/3272

more Edit:

Interesting read

https://www.maidsafe.org/t/solving-sybil-attacks-in-the-web-of-trust/2066
Above links are the only two places that have "nakamoto consensus" and don' thave "szabo".



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December 13, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
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Szabo and this guy
http://www.oreilly.com/pub/e/3272
https://www.maidsafe.org/t/solving-sybil-attacks-in-the-web-of-trust/2066
Above links are the only two places that have "nakamoto consensus" and don' thave "szabo".
The term did not exist on the internet until Nickomoto Szaboshi wrote it. So he either knows more than he admits (was involved in writing the paper), or he's trolling hard (intentionally copies and expands the writing style)...

http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4
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December 13, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
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in my browser if i write blockchain it gets the annoying red underline saying it was mis-spelled. i think both nick and satoshi hate not being gramatically correct in regards to out dated dictionaries

Then add any new terms to your dictionary like I do, thus ridding them pesky red underlines.



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in my browser if i write blockchain it gets the annoying red underline saying it was mis-spelled. i think both nick and satoshi hate not being gramatically correct in regards to out dated dictionaries
Pro-tip. Right click then add to dictionary.

Gulp! Very next post, but at least I supplied an image acting as a tuturial (or however that fuckin' word is spelled  Roll Eyes).
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December 13, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
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Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html

From that page alone:

ticket-selling at a movie theater
other kinds of every-day commerce
analog or paper-based institutions
participate in e-commerce
Turing-complete block chain
efforts included state-machine replication
dawn of the general-purpose personal computer
other interesting trust-minimized operations
the much-discussed "51% attack"
the oft-used word
mouthful "trust-minimized"
the cashier and ticket-ripper
decentralized or peer-to-peer
new fiduciary-intensive applications
off-chain assets or controls on-chain ones
other chain-titled assets
dry (on-chain) performance
traditional off-chain
into a single chain-controlled risk pool
low-hanging fruit

-B-

Ergo, Satoshi Nakamoto-cum-Nick Szabo (or is it Nick Szabo-cum-Satoshi Nakamoto?).
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December 13, 2014, 12:04:01 PM
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Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...


I use "block chain" because that's what it is - a chain of blocks. I also try to hyphenate properly, which to  many people who never hyphenate might seem excessive. I am not Satoshi.


Obviously, odolvlobo, thus FTFY.
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December 13, 2014, 12:30:42 PM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...

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December 13, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?
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December 13, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
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And this made your jaw drop, Wow you need a life i think.  Tongue

thanks. i should play video games and kill virtual people like a normal person huh?



I lol'd on that one!

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December 13, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
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Looks interesting but I'm to busy to read it atm, tldr anyone?

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December 13, 2014, 04:00:14 PM
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Found Szabo....err Satoshi   Cool

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December 13, 2014, 05:23:07 PM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool
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December 13, 2014, 05:30:14 PM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...


So it's written with a dash?

Yes, but ONLY on this date in history in remembrance of "Sweet Child O' Mine" entered the Billboard Top 40 in 1988. Reason? Guns N' Roses; N' as in en dash, commonly referred to as...wait for it...a hyphen. That Satoshi sure is a clever dude.  Cool

I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

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December 13, 2014, 06:14:08 PM
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Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

I see your point, but also have in mind that creators can often feel embarrassed about their earlier works.



Yeah, I'm pretty flip/flop on Szabo, sorry, flip-flop.

Bit careless I'd have thought to use same initial letters as his other moniker, could have been intended "Tribute" by a disciple/student.... or double bluff, "He wouldn't because too obvious..." etc.

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December 13, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
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Nick posted again today, (praising ethereum once again;) and I was reading and I noticed his use of the term "block chain" instead of "blockchain"

Satoshi never said blockchain. He calls the ledger block chain.  Shocked


2 years ago I decided to scan Satoshi's forum posts here just to see if there was anything anomalous about his writing style.  Anything that stood out to me.  The first thing I noticed was that he constantly hyphenates things.  He never misses a properly hyphenated phrase.  He *always* hyphenates things.  Word phrases 99% of people have no idea should be hyphenated, he hyphenates.  In fact I almost wondered if he was over-hyphenating.  Doing it randomly sometimes.  In any case .... take a look at Szabos writings .... cough ...

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html

From that page alone:

ticket-selling at a movie theater
other kinds of every-day commerce
analog or paper-based institutions
participate in e-commerce
Turing-complete block chain
efforts included state-machine replication
dawn of the general-purpose personal computer
other interesting trust-minimized operations
the much-discussed "51% attack"
the oft-used word
mouthful "trust-minimized"
the cashier and ticket-ripper
decentralized or peer-to-peer
new fiduciary-intensive applications
off-chain assets or controls on-chain ones
other chain-titled assets
dry (on-chain) performance
traditional off-chain
into a single chain-controlled risk pool
low-hanging fruit

-B-

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December 13, 2014, 06:55:53 PM
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Nick keeps denying Wink
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December 13, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
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I've been following this Twitter for a while now. Does everyone really think Satoshi is obssessed with Ethereum?? Really??

Possibly.  If Ethereum is attempting to allow all content on the internet to be decentralized.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/11284538/Soon-the-internet-will-be-impossible-to-control.html

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December 13, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is (probably) Nick Szabo
https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/

Running similarity metrics on the whitepaper and Nick’s bit gold articles as well as his paper “formalizing and securing relationships on public networks”  indicated an excellent match over content-neutral expressions as well –so either Nick wrote the whitepaper, or it was written by somebody imitating Nick’s writing style.

  • Repeated use of “of course” without isolating commas, contrary to convention (“the problem of course is”)
  • Expression “can be characterized”, frequent in Nick’s blog
  • Use of “for our purposes” when describing hypotheses
  • Starting sentences with “It should be noted”
  • Use of “preclude”
  • Expression “a level of “ + noun  (“achieves a level of privacy by…”) as a standalone qualifier

There is also the remarkable lack of public reaction on Nick’s part when Bitcoin started taking off.
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