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December 18, 2014, 03:50:24 PM
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what a terrible !!!
280X doing 480kh/s on Neoscrypt!!!!!
i will research

he rewrote special kernel himself and not for public Grin

information like this can cause coin value to plummet at the very least temporarily, no one wants to mine biased coin by localized (hidden) advantage in the mining software by few (or worse by one)

(above is not in the regards to VERT) many seek to find an advantage some kind of pattern, but even if they find an advantage they are shooting themselves in the foot as any sudden spike in the hash rate will cause a concern and worry, best is to achieve equilibrium from low to high to very high difficulty

hence call to any looking at lyra2 on a deep level or even as trivial as GPU settings for maximum performance  or mining pools discovering ways to smooth out their operations all findings should be shared in public

I have example of at least 3 top coins in the 50 top market cap that suffered very negative consequences by not following above suggestion

Except there is no algo that doesn't have non-public advantages, so...
@Wolf0, your attitude is not cool.

This is not working to cure cancer, this is making money; it is business. Sharing an advantage simply causes the public to destroy any possibility of profit until only those paying 5 cents per kWh or less can make anything, and them only pennies.
@Wolf0..and that is why the world is fucked, because of selfish and greedy people like you. I am glad that your corrupt nature is the exception, rather than the rule in this community.
No, the world is fucked because of the greed of people who already are rich.
@Wolf0, and you are becoming/acting just like them. Well done! Give yourself a pat on the back..
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December 18, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
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what a terrible !!!
280X doing 480kh/s on Neoscrypt!!!!!
i will research

he rewrote special kernel himself and not for public Grin

information like this can cause coin value to plummet at the very least temporarily, no one wants to mine biased coin by localized (hidden) advantage in the mining software by few (or worse by one)

(above is not in the regards to VERT) many seek to find an advantage some kind of pattern, but even if they find an advantage they are shooting themselves in the foot as any sudden spike in the hash rate will cause a concern and worry, best is to achieve equilibrium from low to high to very high difficulty

hence call to any looking at lyra2 on a deep level or even as trivial as GPU settings for maximum performance  or mining pools discovering ways to smooth out their operations all findings should be shared in public

I have example of at least 3 top coins in the 50 top market cap that suffered very negative consequences by not following above suggestion

Except there is no algo that doesn't have non-public advantages, so...
@Wolf0, your attitude is not cool.

This is not working to cure cancer, this is making money; it is business. Sharing an advantage simply causes the public to destroy any possibility of profit until only those paying 5 cents per kWh or less can make anything, and them only pennies.
@Wolf0..and that is why the world is fucked, because of selfish and greedy people like you. I am glad that your corrupt nature is the exception, rather than the rule in this community.
No, the world is fucked because of the greed of people who already are rich.
@Wolf0, and you are becoming/acting just like them. Well done! Give yourself a pat on the back..

I should probably attached my new kernel message to this thread, if I want people to notice   Roll Eyes

new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curiou

now on topics, we will see if Wolf0 is wrong or not from the donation... and by giving a faster kernel to everyone...  Grin

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December 18, 2014, 03:57:32 PM
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hashrate on GTX 970 ??

and is there a a table where i can see each card and its hashrate
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December 18, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
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what a terrible !!!
280X doing 480kh/s on Neoscrypt!!!!!
i will research

he rewrote special kernel himself and not for public Grin

information like this can cause coin value to plummet at the very least temporarily, no one wants to mine biased coin by localized (hidden) advantage in the mining software by few (or worse by one)

(above is not in the regards to VERT) many seek to find an advantage some kind of pattern, but even if they find an advantage they are shooting themselves in the foot as any sudden spike in the hash rate will cause a concern and worry, best is to achieve equilibrium from low to high to very high difficulty

hence call to any looking at lyra2 on a deep level or even as trivial as GPU settings for maximum performance  or mining pools discovering ways to smooth out their operations all findings should be shared in public

I have example of at least 3 top coins in the 50 top market cap that suffered very negative consequences by not following above suggestion

Except there is no algo that doesn't have non-public advantages, so...
@Wolf0, your attitude is not cool.

This is not working to cure cancer, this is making money; it is business. Sharing an advantage simply causes the public to destroy any possibility of profit until only those paying 5 cents per kWh or less can make anything, and them only pennies.
@Wolf0..and that is why the world is fucked, because of selfish and greedy people like you. I am glad that your corrupt nature is the exception, rather than the rule in this community.
No, the world is fucked because of the greed of people who already are rich.
@Wolf0, and you are becoming/acting just like them. Well done! Give yourself a pat on the back..

I should probably attached my new kernel message to this thread, if I want people to notice   Roll Eyes

new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curiou

now on topics, we will see if Wolf0 is wrong or not from the donation... and by giving a faster kernel to everyone...  Grin
+1. That is the kind of attitude this community (and crypto, in general) needs. We are all in this together, and people are stronger when they work together. It isn't rocket-science..
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December 18, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
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new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curious)



Can't use new kernel with windows binaries (using build you shared on irc #vertcoin).

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December 18, 2014, 06:02:50 PM
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[img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/2cxenns.jpg[img]

I have the same problem as you
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December 18, 2014, 06:04:46 PM
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new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curious)



Can't use new kernel with windows binaries (using build you shared on irc #vertcoin).


which binaries are you using ? mine or metallicjames ?

(ok, I will commit it again, I think I made a change to the algorithm.c )

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December 18, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
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committed, I changed the integer type for the target and forgot about it... sorry about that.
should work now

here the windows binaries with latest version: http://ge.tt/5zIW3972/v/0?c

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December 18, 2014, 06:31:18 PM
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new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curious)



trying it right now temporarily redirected mining rig towards BBR dues to their bootrstrap nodes fault and subsequently difficulty level halving in matter of hours (this advantage I have 0 problem with, one moves fast reacts fast)

BBR since recovered . let me try this kernel.. if anything curiosity as I like software engineering in general

will report Nvidia 750 hash rate was 620 MH/s with factory setting (Unix wont allow you to change it and there is no way I will do Windows for anything, especially security wise..  Cool

brb it will take few minutes

cheers

new upcoming awesome coin

the Gulden Coin: GKWHEPx3rQyPnbgQUSHu8gtgoRCgpqed1j
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December 18, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
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new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curious)



trying it right now temporarily redirected mining rig towards BBR dues to their bootrstrap nodes fault and subsequently difficulty level halving in matter of hours (this advantage I have 0 problem with, one moves fast reacts fast)

BBR since recovered . let me try this kernel.. if anything curiosity as I like software engineering in general

will report Nvidia 750 hash rate was 620 MH/s with factory setting (Unix wont allow you to change it and there is no way I will do Windows for anything, especially security wise..  Cool

brb it will take few minutes

cheers

ow ow.. this cgminer correct ? never mind

new upcoming awesome coin

the Gulden Coin: GKWHEPx3rQyPnbgQUSHu8gtgoRCgpqed1j
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December 18, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
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Hello, I just found out, what is going on?, did anyone see this post?: http://www.simplemulti.com/news

profitability in http://www.whattomine.com/ went down far below X11, what happened?.

Quoted from Reddit...

"It is a problem with the pool implementation, the algo is fine.
Lyra2RE has a different share difficulty than scrypt-n, you've probably noticed your miner (correctly) submitting fractional shares, whereas scrypt-n utilized integers. But since Lyra2re uses a different share difficulty, the code that rejects low diff shares has to be modified as well.
Its completely our fault for not realizing this needed to be changed, but I'm guessing this part wasn't included in the stratum mining code, and that is why it is an issue for several other pools.
The effect of this was that most low difficulty shares would be incorrectly accepted as valid ones, which causes pools to calculate & display the hashrate far higher than it actually is.
I feel I should point out that there are very few miners who would 'accidentally' benefit from this. Because it requires your miner to not only submit its low diff shares (the default is to dump them), but also have a large number of low diff shares to start with. Normally doing these two things will get you quickly banned from a pool, because you're effectively spamming invalid shares."

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2po6te/lyra2re_difficulty_exploit_is_this_a_problem_of/cmys1cg


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December 18, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
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new kernel for the version in github/djm34 http://ge.tt/41D9Y872/v/0?c
(it should work with metallicjames is you use in lyra2RE.cl the blake256 code of metallicjames version.

current hashrate on my 290x at 1030/1250 with -g2 -I20 -w64   1.46MH/s (average after stabilization) was 1.32MH/s before

donation welcomed: VyF9fXUSt5iZH6GuA8WvUw4NrVhcybMiLA
(even though it was a paid job... vtc has fall off) so please makes updating the code worthy...

please also report problems as well as your speed (I can't reach the 1500MH mem clock... so I am a little curious)



trying it right now temporarily redirected mining rig towards BBR dues to their bootrstrap nodes fault and subsequently difficulty level halving in matter of hours (this advantage I have 0 problem with, one moves fast reacts fast)

BBR since recovered . let me try this kernel.. if anything curiosity as I like software engineering in general

will report Nvidia 750 hash rate was 620 MH/s with factory setting (Unix wont allow you to change it and there is no way I will do Windows for anything, especially security wise..  Cool

brb it will take few minutes

cheers

Flash the BIOS, I do that on unix to change clocks/voltages.

I see appreciate it! you know.. how dumb I was.. I got new DRAM.. because it helps with certain unnamed coin I will say it though BURST (cause shares can be submitted in memory fast for deadlines so DRAM helps) and so I was driving for all this time its gonna be whole year 2014 mining non stop 24/7 on 1333 MHS and BIOS was not flashed to factory DRAM setting 1600 MHs makes a difference

appreciate it.. btw I detected sense of sadness in your voice that no one appreciates work of software developers in crypto., fact is that there are hundreds of you.. and not all are here on bitcointalk or even github.. the competition is eating this industry inside and out..

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December 18, 2014, 06:55:28 PM
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committed, I changed the integer type for the target and forgot about it... sorry about that.
should work now

here the windows binaries with latest version: http://ge.tt/5zIW3972/v/0?c

It's faster 875 vs 1000 but I get a lot of rejects (Hash above traget)

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December 18, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
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I'm having trouble connecting to any of the pools. I'm using the same internet connection and rig (cards, motherboard, etc.) as I did with ScryptN. I used SGminer (V4.3 i think) and now I'm using SGminer v5 for LYRE2.


  • "pools" : [
       {
          "url" : "stratum+tcp://pool.verters.com:3333",
          "user" : "zoidbergas.miner1",
          "pass" : "cbears"
       }
    ]
    ,
    "intensity" : "17,17,17",
    "worksize" : "256,256,256",
    "kernel" : "Lyra2RE",
    "algorithm" : "Lyra2RE",
    "lookup-gap" : "2,2,2",
    "gpu-threads" : "2,2,2",
    "thread-concurrency" : "8192,8192,8192",
    "gpu-engine" : "1020,1020,1020",
    "gpu-memclock" : "1500,1500,1500",
    "gpu-powertune" : "0,0,0",
    "temp-cutoff" : "95,95,95",
    "temp-overheat" : "85,85,85",
    "temp-target" : "62,62,62",
    "auto-fan" : true,
    "gpu-fan" : "75,75,75",
    "api-mcast-port" : "4028",
    "api-port" : "4028",
    "expiry" : "30",
    "gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
    "log" : "20",
    "no-pool-disable" : true,
    "queue" : "1",
    "gpu-platform" : "0",
    "scan-time" : "30",
    "temp-hysteresis" : "3",
    "shares" : "0",
    "kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
    "verbose" : "true",
    "no-extranonce" : true

Here's the screenshot.

http://i.imgur.com/qkIJxc6.jpg

I got straight from the sgminer.exe file, I do not use the .bat file. Any ideas?
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December 18, 2014, 07:36:48 PM
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i got message: cLSetkernelArg of all para failed
all gpu failure and disabling
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December 18, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
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committed, I changed the integer type for the target and forgot about it... sorry about that.
should work now

here the windows binaries with latest version: http://ge.tt/5zIW3972/v/0?c

It's faster 875 vs 1000 but I get a lot of rejects (Hash above traget)


could you try to add --difficulty-multiplier 2 (I used here a difficulty adjustment of 256).
However what is strange is that on the pool I tried (verter and supernova), I didn't see that at all.
share above target are not submitted (or are not counted as rejected)

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December 18, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
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i got message: cLSetkernelArg of all para failed
all gpu failure and disabling
use the latest binaries (windows) or latest github source (github/djm34/sgminer), there was a small screw up in my first announcement...

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could you try to add --difficulty-multiplier 2 (I used here a difficulty adjustment of 256).
However what is strange is that on the pool I tried (verter and supernova), I didn't see that at all.
share above target are not submitted (or are not counted as rejected)

Thx, --difficulty-multiplier 2 works like a charm on coinotron, didn't make any differance on verters though.
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could you try to add --difficulty-multiplier 2 (I used here a difficulty adjustment of 256).
However what is strange is that on the pool I tried (verter and supernova), I didn't see that at all.
share above target are not submitted (or are not counted as rejected)

Thx, --difficulty-multiplier 2 works like a charm on coinotron, didn't make any differance on verters though.
i tried ,coinotron and givemecois, must using  "--difficulty-multiplier 2", speed is right,no fake shares

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