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January 12, 2015, 03:01:23 PM |
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Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help! Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed. My temps look ok '55-59' And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed. I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash. I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry. 425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot. Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds? I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all. Thanks again! Strato P.S. The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better! Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. Still waiting for my s-5 to come as I sold the demo to a friend. I have the same fans. I know the 2 end wires are for power. I have not tried the 2 center wires will do so on weds if the gear shows up. When I set the end wires and do not attach the center I run at full speed. I know 2 of these fans at full speed is 5 db lower then the stock screamer. and the pitch is better.. so 2 fans are only 16 bucks. Not only that I believe two of these will cool better then 1 stock fan. Thus running at 400 should be very easy to do.
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January 12, 2015, 03:13:36 PM |
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Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help! Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed. My temps look ok '55-59' And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed. I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash. I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry. 425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot. Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds? I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all. Thanks again! Strato P.S. The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better! Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. Still waiting for my s-5 to come as I sold the demo to a friend. I have the same fans. I know the 2 end wires are for power. I have not tried the 2 center wires will do so on weds if the gear shows up. When I set the end wires and do not attach the center I run at full speed. I know 2 of these fans at full speed is 5 db lower then the stock screamer. and the pitch is better.. so 2 fans are only 16 bucks. Not only that I believe two of these will cool better then 1 stock fan. Thus running at 400 should be very easy to do. Hey Philip, I actually bought these fans on ebay based on your initial thread. If you end up getting the fan speeds to work please PM me and let me know. Thanks for the good lead on the fans as well as all of your other helpful advice. Your review thread is great. I am only running 1 fan on the unit now, no issues at 400 or 387.5. I suppose configuring 2 fans on the unit would perhaps allow the fans to be run at a lower speed -> less noise. Thanks again, Strato
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January 12, 2015, 03:45:49 PM |
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Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help! Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed. My temps look ok '55-59' And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed. I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash. I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry. 425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot. Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds? I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all. Thanks again! Strato P.S. The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better! Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. Still waiting for my s-5 to come as I sold the demo to a friend. I have the same fans. I know the 2 end wires are for power. I have not tried the 2 center wires will do so on weds if the gear shows up. When I set the end wires and do not attach the center I run at full speed. I know 2 of these fans at full speed is 5 db lower then the stock screamer. and the pitch is better.. so 2 fans are only 16 bucks. Not only that I believe two of these will cool better then 1 stock fan. Thus running at 400 should be very easy to do. Hey Philip, I actually bought these fans on ebay based on your initial thread. If you end up getting the fan speeds to work please PM me and let me know. Thanks for the good lead on the fans as well as all of your other helpful advice. Your review thread is great. I am only running 1 fan on the unit now, no issues at 400 or 387.5. I suppose configuring 2 fans on the unit would perhaps allow the fans to be run at a lower speed -> less noise. Thanks again, Strato Good for you, but i am surprised that you were able to make them work. Did you remove the non-standard connector and replaced with molex head? the connector did not fit the pins on the miner (I got the same fans).
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Stratobitz
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January 12, 2015, 03:58:06 PM |
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No I just cut the connector off of the stock S5 Fan with 4" of wire. Stripped the wire to expose 1/4" bare wire, and then plugged the wires from the S5 fan into the new fan's connectors. Then sealed.
Working great.
Strato
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January 12, 2015, 04:06:34 PM |
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Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help! Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed. My temps look ok '55-59' And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed. I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash. I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry. 425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot. Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds? I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all. Thanks again! Strato P.S. The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better! Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. It appears that your control lines are reversed. I know you have all black wires but I will include the color code for reference. Looking from the front of the unit left to right, the pinout is Signal from controller (BLU), RPM Signal from fan (WHT), 12+ (RED), and GND (BLK). Try swapping the first two pins and you should see the RPM and obtain fan control. EDIT: There is the possibility you just have a loose connection as well.
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January 12, 2015, 04:17:06 PM |
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No I just cut the connector off of the stock S5 Fan with 4" of wire. Stripped the wire to expose 1/4" bare wire, and then plugged the wires from the S5 fan into the new fan's connectors. Then sealed.
Working great.
Strato
Thanks. That was a bit beyond my limited mod skills; I just sent the fans back . The deal from the same guy is still available for ~$10/fan if you feel like splicing wires and do the OP procedure and checking which one work. The price is great, though. I am getting Scythe already for $15, so will try these first (either by themselves or in addition to Noctua 3000).
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January 12, 2015, 04:29:08 PM |
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No I just cut the connector off of the stock S5 Fan with 4" of wire. Stripped the wire to expose 1/4" bare wire, and then plugged the wires from the S5 fan into the new fan's connectors. Then sealed.
Working great.
Strato
Thanks. That was a bit beyond my limited mod skills; I just sent the fans back . The deal from the same guy is still available for ~$10/fan if you feel like splicing wires and do the OP procedure and checking which one work. The price is great, though. I am getting Scythe already for $15, so will try these first (either by themselves or in addition to Noctua 3000). I sent this on to Philip as well - this works - but the fan runs full speed - no monitoring. Swaping the order on the middle two doesnt work. Hope this helps! THIS IS FOR THE DELTA AFB1212SHE FANStrato
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January 12, 2015, 04:31:36 PM |
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Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help! Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed. My temps look ok '55-59' And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed. I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash. I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry. 425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot. Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds? I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all. Thanks again! Strato P.S. The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better! Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. It appears that your control lines are reversed. I know you have all black wires but I will include the color code for reference. Looking from the front of the unit left to right, the pinout is Signal from controller (BLU), RPM Signal from fan (WHT), 12+ (RED), and GND (BLK). Try swapping the first two pins and you should see the RPM and obtain fan control. EDIT: There is the possibility you just have a loose connection as well. I did try that... the fan didnt power - but you are right. I may have had a loose connection - or a bad fan unit. I will give it another shot and see if that solves the problem - or if someone beats me to it - please post! Strato
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January 12, 2015, 04:34:52 PM |
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No I just cut the connector off of the stock S5 Fan with 4" of wire. Stripped the wire to expose 1/4" bare wire, and then plugged the wires from the S5 fan into the new fan's connectors. Then sealed.
Working great.
Strato
Thanks. That was a bit beyond my limited mod skills; I just sent the fans back . The deal from the same guy is still available for ~$10/fan if you feel like splicing wires and do the OP procedure and checking which one work. The price is great, though. I am getting Scythe already for $15, so will try these first (either by themselves or in addition to Noctua 3000). I sent this on to Philip as well - this works - but the fan runs full speed - no monitoring. Swaping the order on the middle two doesnt work. Hope this helps! THIS IS FOR THE DELTA AFB1212SHE FAN>snipped image< Strato looks great, thanks. I would add to put the grille back on the new delta fan because it is quite fast and the blades are fragile (and so are the fingers )
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January 12, 2015, 04:42:32 PM |
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Is the heatsink hole spacing compatible between the S1/S3 and the S5?
I would also like to know this - can anyone confirm? Thanks. Overlap some of my PCB photos, they'll tell you. Any difference in zoom then resize so the PCI-E headers are the same.
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Duce
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January 12, 2015, 04:53:04 PM |
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I did try that... the fan didnt power - but you are right. I may have had a loose connection - or a bad fan unit. I will give it another shot and see if that solves the problem - or if someone beats me to it - please post!
Strato
Just reviewed your picture and you have connected correctly that is for sure. Well let us know if you nuke it out.
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January 12, 2015, 04:56:54 PM |
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Not every fan has an internal pullup on the PWM line. Some (like many Deltas) require an external pullup in order to function. If you just power the first two (gnd and 12V) pins and the fan doesn't turn on, it needs an external pullup. If you swap the "PWM" and "Tach" signals and it starts working, it's very possible you just connected the PWM line to the Tach input on the S5, but the pullup on the Tach line is what caused the fan to turn on.
What's the exact model you guys have?
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January 12, 2015, 05:00:23 PM |
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THIS IS FOR THE DELTA AFB1212SHE FAN
Thanks for this. Just ordered four of those fans off Amazon. Will give them a whirl. Looking to order a couple more S5's this week.
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January 12, 2015, 05:03:22 PM |
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THIS IS FOR THE DELTA AFB1212SHE FAN
Thanks for this. Just ordered four of those fans off Amazon. Will give them a whirl. Looking to order a couple more S5's this week. What's the option code on the end? It'll be like AFB1212SHE-F00 or something. That's what determines things like the PWM, tach output vs locked rotor sensor, etc.
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January 12, 2015, 05:06:03 PM |
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@ MrTeal, did you ever find out if the S1/S3 heatsinks were the same as the S5's?
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January 12, 2015, 05:08:31 PM |
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@ MrTeal, did you ever find out if the S1/S3 heatsinks were the same as the S5's?
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As near as I can tell they are. I haven't actually done a swap though.
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January 12, 2015, 05:14:03 PM |
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@ MrTeal, did you ever find out if the S1/S3 heatsinks were the same as the S5's?
Thanks.
As near as I can tell they are. I haven't actually done a swap though. Thanks MrTeal. It's the hole spacing I'm mainly concerned about, I don't want to strip them down to find that the holes are about 2mm out. I'll have to PM Bitmain themselves I think, seems the only way to get an accurate answer from them
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January 12, 2015, 05:17:36 PM |
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@ MrTeal, did you ever find out if the S1/S3 heatsinks were the same as the S5's?
Thanks.
As near as I can tell they are. I haven't actually done a swap though. Thanks MrTeal. It's the hole spacing I'm mainly concerned about, I don't want to strip them down to find that the holes are about 2mm out. I'll have to PM Bitmain themselves I think, seems the only way to get an accurate answer from them Actually, you can put 1 and 1 together .... 1. The C1 uses the same board as the S3 2. The S5 board fits the C1 water cooling block - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914354So there you have it.
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January 12, 2015, 05:18:30 PM |
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y1HLA8/Delta Electronics AFB1212SHE 120x120x38mm Cooling Fan, 151.85 CFM, 58 dBA, 3700 RPM, 1.06 AMP, PWM 4-pin connector THIS IS FOR THE DELTA AFB1212SHE FAN
Thanks for this. Just ordered four of those fans off Amazon. Will give them a whirl. Looking to order a couple more S5's this week. What's the option code on the end? It'll be like AFB1212SHE-F00 or something. That's what determines things like the PWM, tach output vs locked rotor sensor, etc.
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