Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is.

[organofcorti]

Holy shit, Vladimir, we agree on something! (I'm sure we agree on other things, but we have not discussed beer or space exploration on bitcointalk.)

Forum operators admit to reading pirate's (and other) PMs, have stickied threads, "suggested" creating PPTs (whatever side you fall on with gote or theymos on that one), and have recorded bets with Matthew.  It all creates a big stink.

When people talk about "the BTC community," which I deny truly exists, they are talking about this forum, and it's a snake pit.

Hi reeses, why did you delete almost all your posting history (including the posts where you supported pirateat40)? Your post count is now 17.

As Donald's hair said, I just do it.  Part of it is getting tired of being involved in the anti-rational drama that peaked with the Ponzi threadstorm [...]

Ok. In other words "I defended/supported pirateat40, but I don't want to admit I was wrong, so I am deleting the evidence"

Go back and read my posts, you lazy, dishonest fuck.  Then choke on a bucket of cocks.

Good riddance, asshat reeses!
Deleting your bull shit? LOL! You are even a bigger joke than I thought you are.  Oh, and do not forget to choke on a bucket of cocks, you dishonest fuck.
And while you are at it, wipe that shit of your nose. Your brown-nosing attempts at some of the biggest crooks in this forum where mediocre at best and almost entertaining.
LOL, deleting post... you are a loser LOL
Good riddance asshat!

He does tend to be entertaining, and inventive in his invective. Some do not put in half the effort.

[zyk]

Let us watch out for other pals, who have been entrusted with other peoples monies or ripped off undeserved interest in ponzis, as deleting their own posts, is the preparation for running away

with the loot.

Thanks Zyk

[Chang Hum]

Let us watch out for other pals, who have been entrusted with other peoples monies or ripped off undeserved interest in ponzis, as deleting their own posts, is the preparation for running away

with the loot.

Thanks Zyk

Dude, I love how crazy you are.  Might I ask with whose loot would I be escaping?  And I'd be doing a shitty job of erasing my tracks if I deleted posts and pointed out that they were already quoted, inviting people to quote my posts, no?

Now, Tralfamadore, that fucker hid his tracks _well_.

I've been thinking Reeses might be none other than Trafamadore for some time now he's just bigged him up as many criminal multi accounting douchbags do when refering to their alternative secrete pseudonyms. My hypotheses

Reeses = Tralfamadore

[zyk]

Let us watch out for other pals, who have been entrusted with other peoples monies or ripped off undeserved interest in ponzis, as deleting their own posts, is the preparation for running away

with the loot.

Thanks Zyk

Dude, I love how crazy you are.  Might I ask with whose loot would I be escaping?  And I'd be doing a shitty job of erasing my tracks if I deleted posts and pointed out that they were already quoted, inviting people to quote my posts, no?

Now, Tralfamadore, that fucker hid his tracks _well_.

Haven´t you been to Vegas, Dude ?....so instead of deleting posts I´d rather expect you to have added some more to show your interest in honest cammeradery...

or am i becoming to rational here for being let in??

Thanks Zyk

[hannesnaude]

Go back and read my posts...

Well given that you appear to be doing everything in your admittedly limited power to make going back and reading your posts as hard as possible, you'd excuse us for assuming that that is actually the last thing you want. So we'll just have to go by what we remember you saying.

If you cared enough to hold an honest and accurate opinion, you'd use the search box and type in "reeses" or do a site search on google.  However, informed opinions have little value here.

Yeah, I could and that does give me some results. But a lot of  them are not quotes of you, they're others saying shit like "reeses is a dumbass." That's  why I never said that it was impossible to to read your posts, simply that you were making it as hard as you possibly could. That point stands.

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Sense of humour detected. Respect.

[bitcoinBull]

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As I think about acts of integrity and grace, I realise that there is nothing in my knowledge to compare with Frege's reeses's dedication to truth. ... upon finding that his fundamental assumption was in error, he responded with intellectual pleasure clearly submerging any feelings of personal disappointment. It was almost superhuman....
-- Bertrand Russell

[hgmichna]

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Least confidence-building thing you've said all week, Matt.

That will be corrected when he will have paid out his bets.

And he hasn't.

[hgmichna]

Happy days, is Vandroiy already in control of his well-deserved earnings?

No, nanotube says he currently has no access to his offline wallet. Give him some time, I doubt he'd dump the WoT over 10k BTC.

I'm more worried about _matthew_'s (Matthew's?) payment though. The bet with hgmichna does not run up to the 9th, but ended with nanotube's decision on this bet. Now, does he not have access to 250 BTC, or is he not paying "just because"? Both those explanations don't sound very reassuring given that he has a lot of bets timing out soon.

Vandroiy seems to be right again. "Matthew N. Wright" has not paid.

[hgmichna]

… use the Vandroiy bet conditions, because they are clearly laid out and fine-tuned. If Vandroiy wins his BTC5,000, you pay me, if Vandroiy loses, I pay you. …

I accept your conditions. I'm betting 10,000BTC already in another thread however, although at the moment of writing this, 4995.89114457 BTC has been bet leaving me with 5004.10885543 BTC left to bet with. Name your bet please.

Let's leave it at BTC250 then. That's about my limit without escrow.

This is my offer. If you accept it, we have a deal.

Agreed. For my own accounting purposes I will add it to the same spreadsheet as I use for other betters of the betting thread, but I concede publicly that it is in fact a separate bet entirely and an exact mimc of the strict guidelines in Vandroiy and Pirate's bet. Good luck!

Time to pay up. I am sending my bitcoin address to you by PM.

I'm still curious why you made this hopeless bet. Care to explain? Did you get messages from the pirate that sounded so believable that you fell for them?

My suspicion looks quite realistic now. Where are my bitcoins?

I guess "Matthew N. Wright" has disappeared now too.

[Vandroiy]

Fascinating.  I thought he would have at least paid out your "unusual" bet, given (as I recall) the earlier decision date.  You should have sent up the red flag. 

What is the legality of Internet betting in this situation in general?  Were this not "a whole joke" would at least bettors in the USA be breaking the law?  Despite theymos's statement about the "site" not being in the states, citizens are subject to the boot on the neck its rule of law.

Since we seem to like gambling here, does anyone know the score?  Are we OK (in the LR sense) because btc is not yet recognized as a store of value by any particular jurisdictions?

Not that I bet btc.  I only bet noogies.

For all the reasonable jurisdictions I know of, contracts can involve all kinds of things. Might as well wager to perform a funny dance or something, you still have to do it if you lose. If a law does not punish breaking such contracts, the law is wrong.

I know a lot of the people would have paid Matthew if Pirate had miraculously conjured up coins. While I didn't believe that was possible, some people did, so from their perspective, Matthew broke contracts and fed the community misinformation. That constitutes a criminal. He probably bets on nobody coming to SK to sue him, or that an online forum and IRC network might not officially suffice as evidence.

Good to see he is no longer on the staff of the Bitcoin Magazine or on the list of speakers for London.

[BadBear]

He also had his mod position in Korean forum removed since he can't be trusted.

[Puppet]

One of few worthy of that title. Vandroiy, can I have your signature?
(preferably a digital one that unlocks those 10000 BTC )

[bitcoinBull]

One of few worthy of that title. Vandroiy, can I have your signature?
(preferably a digital one that unlocks those 10000 BTC )

Did Vandroiy collect his winnings from nanotube yet?

[nanotube]

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[elux]

Vandroiy: Speech?

[toffoo]

But I can.  Find a trusted escrow and Ill bet you anything you put in it.

Classic.  Is this the most expensive sentence ever typed into this forum?

At current $/BTC exchange rates, this was a pretty hefty bet by any yard stick.  I'm surprised we haven't seen any mainstream press pick up this story.  I can just see the headline, "Local Man Wins $119,000 In Bet With Ponzi Operator".

[organofcorti]

But I can.  Find a trusted escrow and Ill bet you anything you put in it.

Classic.  Is this the most expensive sentence ever typed into this forum?

At current $/BTC exchange rates, this was a pretty hefty bet by any yard stick.  I'm surprised we haven't seen any mainstream press pick up this story.  I can just see the headline, "Local Man Wins $119,000 In Bet With Ponzi Operator".

He only won $59, 900 since the other half of the $59, 900 was already his.

[bitcoinBull]

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respect. Next time, how about restricting operator privileges in #bitcoin-otc to more neutral parties? Not a user running the biggest scam on the scene.

[dust]

But I can.  Find a trusted escrow and Ill bet you anything you put in it.

Classic.  Is this the most expensive sentence ever typed into this forum?

At current $/BTC exchange rates, this was a pretty hefty bet by any yard stick.  I'm surprised we haven't seen any mainstream press pick up this story.  I can just see the headline, "Local Man Wins $119,000 In Bet With Ponzi Operator".

BurtW's BTC10k bet was bigger, although there is no proof he deposited that amount: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97094.0

[myrkul]

Next time, how about restricting operator privileges in #bitcoin-otc to more neutral parties? Not a user running the biggest scam on the scene.

Scam, not scam, doesn't matter. People with a vested interest in silencing detractors probably shouldn't be able to at a whim.