[UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative

[rossr1]

Seems VNL starting to rattle the odd believer of other previous frontrunners, one thing that has impressed me from the start of this coins development is John O'Connors approach  in not taking on this negativity. His simple "thank you for your support"  is the way to go.  Don't feed the negativity  

[x0rcist]

If I went in every thread that calls Monero a scam I would stay forever on bitcointalk, VNL is shit and I would rather not be indoctrinated in why you want me to believe otherwise about your coin while I'm trying to follow another coin development.

You're a funny guy, i was involved with the launch of XMR (if you dont believe check my post history), i'm now here and not there. Do your math

= good + I don't care.

Thank you for your support

[rossr1]

If I went in every thread that calls Monero a scam I would stay forever on bitcointalk, VNL is shit and I would rather not be indoctrinated in why you want me to believe otherwise about your coin while I'm trying to follow another coin development.

You're a funny guy, i was involved with the launch of XMR (if you dont believe check my post history), i'm now here and not there. Do your math

= good + I don't care.

Thank you for your support.

[dygus]

If I went in every thread that calls Monero a scam I would stay forever on bitcointalk, VNL is shit and I would rather not be indoctrinated in why you want me to believe otherwise about your coin while I'm trying to follow another coin development.

You're a funny guy, i was involved with the launch of XMR (if you dont believe check my post history), i'm now here and not there. Do your math

= good + I don't care.

Fuck you for your support

EDIT: sorry, I meant thank you

[ocminer]

Great coin

[thefix]

Its all about actions speaking louder than words, and John has only been about getting things done properly!

The community is just as important and we have the start of a great one.

[thefix]

Great coin

Did you get your old FPGA miners working with this?

[traumschiff]

Great coin

Did you get your old FPGA miners working with this?

ocminer is probably waiting for John to finish the public miner needed for FPGAs

[traumschiff]

Great coin

And great pools

[LovSan]

I love you all

I certainly heard that monero guys are toxic, but could not imagine that so much. Return to your bytecoin fork, leave VNL thread alone.

[etoque]

Blabla bla Im a monero shit toxic fan

We all know skill of Monero community to be the WORST TOXIC community btc haven't lived

If you love your dev sitting on their ass and only FUD other coin,go for it,we don't need it here.

Also you'r coin was also a pale copy from a scam. So don't start with this debate,this coin was from scratch lol noob.

[Levole11]

Blabla bla Im a monero shit toxic fan

We all know skill of Monero community to be the WORST TOXIC community btc haven't lived

If you love your dev sitting on their ass and only FUD other coin,go for it,we don't need it here.

Also you'r coin was also a pale copy from a scam. So don't start with this debate,this coin was from scratch lol noob.

We all know your butthurt about Monero comes from the far past (dash/darkcoin scam being unmasked live) but hiding behind another scam to attack Monero and me is just sad.

HOW is this a scam, moron?

[traumschiff]

Please stop arguing with him. He isn't the spokesperson nor the face of his community.

[MemoryShock]

I don't think there is any need to insult other communities.  

John invented FPGA mining and has pretty much been rolling out awesome after awesome.  The least we can do is not sink to the level of crass ad hominems and petulant bickering.

[etoque]

Blabla bla Im a monero shit toxic fan

We all know skill of Monero community to be the WORST TOXIC community btc haven't lived

If you love your dev sitting on their ass and only FUD other coin,go for it,we don't need it here.

Also you'r coin was also a pale copy from a scam. So don't start with this debate,this coin was from scratch lol noob.

Bla bla bla I spent all my time trolling other thread because Im mad this coin have more volume than my shitty useless one's

Just go away Einstein , we got it 

[americanpegasus]

Let's discuss the emission please. 
 
That seems to be the focus of the complaints about this coin.  Any new currency must have a fair emission in order for it to pass muster down the line. 
 
If the emission was hackneyed or ultra-fast and then converted to POS, that is bad. 
 
Can someone ELIAP and use small words and pictures so simpletons like me can understand why VanillaCoin has a fair distribution that will stand the scrutiny of time? 
 
 
 
For example, if I distribute all the initial coins via POW in the first couple of weeks, and then transfer over to POS, that's obviously scamish.  That means that all the real work was done in the first 2 weeks and a lot of people rented out server time, got a shitload of coins, and now stand to make a lot of money off of people buying in to the currency later.  This shifts the motive of the coin from technology and ideals to profiting the first users... that's no good. 
 
BUT, if you distribute the coins slowly over a period of years, and then have some perpetual emission afterwards, that's a good thing.  That shows that you are trying to achieve a wide and fair distribution to all. 
 
So, please enlighten me about VanillaCoin distribution.

[LovSan]

Let's discuss the emission please.  
  
That seems to be the focus of the complaints about this coin.  Any new currency must have a fair emission in order for it to pass muster down the line.  
  
If the emission was hackneyed or ultra-fast and then converted to POS, that is bad.  
  
Can someone ELIAP and use small words and pictures so simpletons like me can understand why VanillaCoin has a fair distribution that will stand the scrutiny of time?  
  
 
  
For example, if I distribute all the initial coins via POW in the first couple of weeks, and then transfer over to POS, that's obviously scamish.  That means that all the real work was done in the first 2 weeks and a lot of people rented out server time, got a shitload of coins, and now stand to make a lot of money off of people buying in to the currency later.  This shifts the motive of the coin from technology and ideals to profiting the first users... that's no good.  
  
BUT, if you distribute the coins slowly over a period of years, and then have some perpetual emission afterwards, that's a good thing.  That shows that you are trying to achieve a wide and fair distribution to all.  
  
So, please enlighten me about VanillaCoin distribution.

http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf


Also, it would be usefull to read this thread: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/5/launch (1.5k Posts) to have a full picture, why VNL distribution is the fairest you could ever imagine.

[hankrules]

Let's discuss the emission please. 
 
That seems to be the focus of the complaints about this coin.  Any new currency must have a fair emission in order for it to pass muster down the line. 
 
If the emission was hackneyed or ultra-fast and then converted to POS, that is bad. 
 
Can someone ELIAP and use small words and pictures so simpletons like me can understand why VanillaCoin has a fair distribution that will stand the scrutiny of time? 
 
 
 
For example, if I distribute all the initial coins via POW in the first couple of weeks, and then transfer over to POS, that's obviously scamish.  That means that all the real work was done in the first 2 weeks and a lot of people rented out server time, got a shitload of coins, and now stand to make a lot of money off of people buying in to the currency later.  This shifts the motive of the coin from technology and ideals to profiting the first users... that's no good. 
 
BUT, if you distribute the coins slowly over a period of years, and then have some perpetual emission afterwards, that's a good thing.  That shows that you are trying to achieve a wide and fair distribution to all. 
 
So, please enlighten me about VanillaCoin distribution.

Well for one, rented servers were not allowed on the VNL network for the first few weeks.  I tried mining from both AWS and digitalocean, but the client would not run.

[americanpegasus]

http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf


Also, it would be usefull to read this thread: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/5/launch (1.5k Posts) to have a full picture, why VNL distribution is the fairest you could ever imagine.

 
 
I will read some of this and get back to you. 

I consider the bitcoin ledger to be the public ledger for all projects.  Did VanillaCoin also happen to make a blockchain announcement so we can effectively date the launch?

[traumschiff]

http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf


Also, it would be usefull to read this thread: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/5/launch (1.5k Posts) to have a full picture, why VNL distribution is the fairest you could ever imagine.

 
 
I will read some of this and get back to you. 

I consider the bitcoin ledger to be the public ledger for all projects.  Did VanillaCoin also happen to make a blockchain announcement so we can effectively date the launch?

There was a pre-announcement a few weeks prior the actual launch on BCT which was closed down after the launch and discussion moved over to the official forums.