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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3898850 times)
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March 02, 2015, 09:52:56 PM
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March 02, 2015, 09:59:19 PM
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... trading not allowed.
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March 02, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
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HAVELOCK BACK ONLINE

... trading not allowed.

still..
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March 02, 2015, 10:03:41 PM
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I really doubt this is a scam because AM/FC has shown integrity matters more than profit time and time again (200 btc fee returned, prisma refunds, etc) , however the lack of professionalism cannot be ignored. Even if they do somehow make it out of this mess, I hope FC steps down and replaces himself with someone more qualified.

My view over this. There was no other option to the 200 BTC fee except to return them. I can only imagine the investors going crazy if this wasn't returned. As for the prisma refunds the amount doesn't seem too big to me. The batch and the refund weren't that big to really hurt AM. Considering this these 2 points don't really support AM THAT much, but don't get me wrong. These 2 acts of kindness must be appreciated and respected, but not to that extent to bet all the money on it.

Why would FC even waste his time with Prisma refunds if he was going to pull a fast one only 2 months later? And why would he halt AMhash sales?

I never stated that FC pulled a fast one right now. I only stated what he did and what he didn't and I tried to outline all the bad decisions.

Look it this way. He is the CEO of the company. The daddy. Why would a CEO do anything that will damage the company in the public eyes? It's not what's a CEO is supposed to do. How do you think that AM would've looked if they were ignoring all the Prisma issues? I say that very bad. That's why there was no other option for him and for the company than to do the right things for their customers because otherwise imagine the bad publicity on their next gen miners.

Note: I am not bad intended towards AM. If you think otherwise it's your problem and don't stick it to me. I'm only eager for a good talk.

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March 02, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
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HAVELOCK BACK ONLINE

... trading not allowed.

Find the havelock's last post - orders are cleared, and trading continues on Wed.
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March 02, 2015, 10:04:42 PM
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^If it takes over a week to make the site 100% nonfunctional, imagine how long it's gonna take to make it work again?
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March 02, 2015, 10:04:52 PM
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If for example AM was hosting their miners with a 3rd party and stopped paying hosting fee's over the Chinese New Year, the 3rd party might be inclined to withhold access to the miners and instead mine for themselves until payment is made...

Are you saying this is a total fabrication?

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The 3.546PH AMHash's hashrates have disappeared since 25th Dec 2014. We found this problem two days later,we asked friedcat,he said it was mining farm's maintenance issues,hashrates would come back soon.But one week later,hashrates didn't come back yet.When we asked FC again, we were told that all mining devices were robbed by the partner of the mining farm.And all hashrates were out of control.
After then, FC told us that hashrates from new mining farms will be deployed, but we didn't know the amount at that time.Right now, we still don't receive any update from those new hashrates.

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No not a total fabrication. I'm just interpreting it the way it is written, they no longer have control of the miners and the hosting service has diverted the miners to their own address.

Iirc their partner was hashratio.

Let me understand:  You're saying that "disappeared since 25th Dec 2014" means "we just found out yesterday" and "robbed by a partner" is just a meaningless interjection in Cantonese, similar to "um, like, you know" in English?

I'm saying that according to that statement, payments to the mining address stopped on Dec. 25th.  When asked, FC responded that they must be having issues and are under maintenance.  We don't know if that statement was due to ignorance of the situation or was a deliberate fabrication.

When AMHASH inquired again he changed his story to say that he no longer had control of the miners and I'm assuming that the hasrate was (and is) being diverted to the owner of the facilities mining address.  This is in effect the same as being stolen, though without being physically hauled off.


I agree that things look very bad and at this point I'm not holding out much hope.  My original comment was just to infer that the devices might not have been physically stolen, rather just hijacked and further to suggest that it may have been due to negligence on FC's part (by not paying for hosting) and not out right theft by the hosting company.

It would be nice to get a response from Hashratio on this issue.
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March 02, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
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So, AsicMiner was robbed of a shit load of miners that were working?

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March 02, 2015, 10:23:27 PM
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How does the use hashratio fit into this picture, does he/she work for Asicminers or Amhash?
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March 02, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
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So, AsicMiner was robbed of a shit load of miners that were working?

That is what it looks like from this...

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The 3.546PH AMHash's hashrates have disappeared since 25th Dec 2014. We found this problem two days later,we asked friedcat,he said it was mining farm's maintenance issues,hashrates would come back soon.But one week later,hashrates didn't come back yet.When we asked FC again, we were told that all mining devices were robbed by the partner of the mining farm.And all hashrates were out of control.
After then, FC told us that hashrates from new mining farms will be deployed, but we didn't know the amount at that time.Right now, we still don't receive any update from those new hashrates.

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March 02, 2015, 10:35:00 PM
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How does the use hashratio fit into this picture, does he/she work for Asicminers or Amhash?

Hashratio would have owned the data centre AM were using to host their miners. Don't take it as a fact though that Hashratio was the partner, it's just a rumour at this point and needs to be confirmed.
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March 02, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
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I knew the moment that AM was trying to wholesale be200 and/or franchise the chips out that it was a simple business tactic to rearrange the original agreements in the ipo. AM wanted to bleed itself out to cut IPO investors out.
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March 02, 2015, 11:31:34 PM
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I knew the moment that AM was trying to wholesale be200 and/or franchise the chips out that it was a simple business tactic to rearrange the original agreements in the ipo. AM wanted to bleed itself out to cut IPO investors out.
I've been saying this all along. The hashes sold via AMhash should have rightfully been put to work earning BTC for AM shareholders. Simple as that. But Noooooooooooooooooo.
AM is worthless AMhash is worthless FC is a scammer and there is no joy on whoville oh, and the whole "stolen miners" thing is blowing up in "Bitcoin Discussions" right now (even though they've got all the facts wrong)
Worst PR ever!
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March 03, 2015, 01:05:58 AM
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So, AsicMiner was robbed of a shit load of miners that were working?

That is what it looks like from this...

update

The 3.546PH AMHash's hashrates have disappeared since 25th Dec 2014. We found this problem two days later,we asked friedcat,he said it was mining farm's maintenance issues,hashrates would come back soon.But one week later,hashrates didn't come back yet.When we asked FC again, we were told that all mining devices were robbed by the partner of the mining farm.And all hashrates were out of control.
After then, FC told us that hashrates from new mining farms will be deployed, but we didn't know the amount at that time.Right now, we still don't receive any update from those new hashrates.

AMHash Team

I've read some weird shit happening in bitcoinland, tons of bitcoin miners robbed is a new one...

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March 03, 2015, 01:53:08 AM
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On www.iasicminer.com it looks like a new product was listed today (2015 - 03 - 02). Am I misunderstanding something?
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March 03, 2015, 02:00:17 AM
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On www.iasicminer.com it looks like a new product was listed today (2015 - 03 - 02). Am I misunderstanding something?

Is the website code just reading the date on your computer?
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March 03, 2015, 02:01:05 AM
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On www.iasicminer.com it looks like a new product was listed today (2015 - 03 - 02). Am I misunderstanding something?

Who knows.  Most news ends up here once it's stale and old.  Maybe we find out by the end of the month if someone is kind enough to translate.  Otherwise its just the FUDsters going around and around.  Can't blame FC and co. much for avoiding this cesspool of childish tantrums and poo flinging.  I'd avoid it myself, if there was a better information source for English speakers.  Maybe a quarterly email with a few bullet points of what's going on...

On a positive note, Havelock is back up, and my balances are there.  Flip side, there is no trading available  Tongue
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March 03, 2015, 02:06:19 AM
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On www.iasicminer.com it looks like a new product was listed today (2015 - 03 - 02). Am I misunderstanding something?

Is the website code just reading the date on your computer?

Ask again tomorrow  Wink
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March 03, 2015, 03:41:08 AM
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On www.iasicminer.com it looks like a new product was listed today (2015 - 03 - 02). Am I misunderstanding something?

Is the website code just reading the date on your computer?

Ask again tomorrow  Wink
I went there and the section on the bottom had new entry for 03-02... click link http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-61 and shows 2015-03-03 so reading from my pc but prob went up yesterday?

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