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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3888131 times)
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April 19, 2013, 04:04:48 PM
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this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179800.0 should be used as a base to determine price of USB miner. Those FPGAs are 380MH/s, but are larger and consume more energy. Right now is price 7,5 BTC per piece.

Yea, but the cost of an fpga chip is significantly larger then an asic. Discounting the NRE anyway.

That's significantly more then I could justify spending on one, especially if bfl delivers 5 ghash at $275.

Time is most of the value in the price of miners right now. Sure BFL might deliver 5GH at $275, but when? if you order now, it's probably going to be 6-7 months later before you receive one, if you are lucky that is, there's tons of pre-orders ahead of you.

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April 19, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
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this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179800.0 should be used as a base to determine price of USB miner. Those FPGAs are 380MH/s, but are larger and consume more energy. Right now is price 7,5 BTC per piece.

Yea, but the cost of an fpga chip is significantly larger then an asic. Discounting the NRE anyway.

That's significantly more then I could justify spending on one, especially if bfl delivers 5 ghash at $275.

Time is most of the value in the price of miners right now. Sure BFL might deliver 5GH at $275, but when? if you order now, it's probably going to be 6-7 months later before you receive one, if you are lucky that is, there's tons of pre-orders ahead of you.

I think it comes down to whether or not you believe BFL will finally 'get their shit together' and deliver. IF they actually start shipping and can produce the 400+ units a day they have been saying for the last month BFL products will be a GREAT choice. If they screw up again and take another few months, their products will be almost worthless when they hit market in Aug/Sept.
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April 19, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

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April 19, 2013, 05:10:27 PM
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Would it be possible to get some estimate numbers on what you plan to deploy and auction in the coming weeks?
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April 19, 2013, 05:10:51 PM
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We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

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April 19, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.
are the problems with network an power fixed?
how many TH/s can be plugged in all locations?
how many TH/s are in that assembled blades?
how many will be sold?

to know at least some of these numbers would be great. I know that we are waiting for the second batch, but could not find if second batch is 6TH/s or 50TH/s (or some other number?)
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April 19, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

My 2 Satoshi

"'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER" is certainly not friedcat's concern. why? because bitfountain is not selling any shares and wont be for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, there should be NO special treatment of shareholders. There is no overall profit maximizing effect in favoring shareholders. If you want to buy, buy like everyone else.
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April 19, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

My 2 Satoshi

That wont make sense because it would only lead to a shorttime spike in the shareprice. And its not needed anymore to get buyers for the shares because IPO is done. So if someone only could get one miner as a shareholder he would buy shares and sell it later. Nothing to win with this.
And, even though im a shareholder, i wont like special treatment to shareholders either.

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April 19, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

My 2 Satoshi

That wont make sense because it would only lead to a shorttime spike in the shareprice. And its not needed anymore to get buyers for the shares because IPO is done. So if someone only could get one miner as a shareholder he would buy shares and sell it later. Nothing to win with this.
And, even though im a shareholder, i wont like special treatment to shareholders either.

Double post. I guess we can make a wish  Grin
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April 19, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.
are the problems with network an power fixed?
how many TH/s can be plugged in all locations?
how many TH/s are in that assembled blades?
how many will be sold?

to know at least some of these numbers would be great. I know that we are waiting for the second batch, but could not find if second batch is 6TH/s or 50TH/s (or some other number?)

First batch was 12TH/s (7 already deployed) and second was 50TH/s. Third (already paid for) is 200 TH/s, fourth (planned?) is 1000 TH/s.
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April 19, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
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Nobody has posted one of these pics in a while and stock prices dipped.

Here you go, going back up right now. lol

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April 19, 2013, 06:49:22 PM
Last edit: April 19, 2013, 07:01:42 PM by SmiGueL
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Just 2 hours before the first auction ends:

Timer removed. End time: 2013-04-19+16:02:08

Click on the timer or link and get (one of) the first sold ASICMINER Block Erupter blades Smiley

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April 19, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

My 2 Satoshi

"'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER" is certainly not friedcat's concern. why? because bitfountain is not selling any shares and wont be for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, there should be NO special treatment of shareholders. There is no overall profit maximizing effect in favoring shareholders. If you want to buy, buy like everyone else.

May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!
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April 19, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
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May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!

So Apple shareholders have discount on iPad and Microsoft shareholders have discount on Surface. That's what you are saying?
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April 19, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
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May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!

So Apple shareholders have discount on iPad and Microsoft shareholders have discount on Surface. That's what you are saying?

It's the "give me everything for free" attitude of this generation.

Didn't you get your free 737 when you bought a share from Boing? Too bad Sad

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April 19, 2013, 07:44:56 PM
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May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!

So Apple shareholders have discount on iPad and Microsoft shareholders have discount on Surface. That's what you are saying?
Special treatment is usually reserved for employees or business partners, as they make up the core of the operating business.

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April 19, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
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Update

We are getting ready for the arrival of our assembled blades. The development of USB-stick miners is actively on the way and heading to its sample batch. The series of the auction will last for several rounds and include the USB-stick miners in later rounds when they are out.

I think a nice 'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER would be to offer the USB stick miners to share holders only (if possible) or offer a hefty 'early bird' discount to share holders.

My 2 Satoshi

"'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER" is certainly not friedcat's concern. why? because bitfountain is not selling any shares and wont be for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, there should be NO special treatment of shareholders. There is no overall profit maximizing effect in favoring shareholders. If you want to buy, buy like everyone else.

May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!

What company give their shareholder special discount on their products? I've only heard of companies sending coupons with annual reports to shareholders, but these coupons are available elsewhere, not exclusively to shareholders.

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April 19, 2013, 10:33:01 PM
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special discounts for shareholders would cut into the profit and thus shareholders dividend. So those shareholders not buying anything would be left with less dividend, paying for the discount of the shareholders using the discount. So no, I don't think it would be a wise thing to offer discounts to shareholders. Also, with 400k total shares basically all of bitcoinland could own one...

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April 20, 2013, 01:48:58 AM
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"'incentive' that could also help bring attention to investing in ASICMINER" is certainly not friedcat's concern. why? because bitfountain is not selling any shares and wont be for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, there should be NO special treatment of shareholders. There is no overall profit maximizing effect in favoring shareholders. If you want to buy, buy like everyone else.

you beat me to it - no new investors are being courted, and original investors are already made whole. Best thing for everyone involved is to find the best balance between mining and hardware sales, and treat existing shareholders as nothing but the target for dividends that they are. (Personally, I think it would be best to mine as much as possible with this hardware while developing the next gen, and then start selling the current hardware right as nextgen is rolled out for our own mining process... basically, mine with cutting edge while selling the stuff we just finished mining with. Of course, I don't have enough info to do the actual math to see if that's really the best way to go, but that's my perspective from way over here)

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April 20, 2013, 04:15:02 AM
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May be the dumbest comment I have seen in a while. There is no incentive to treat your share holders well? Oh, well I guess every company in the world has it wrong then. My bad!

So Apple shareholders have discount on iPad and Microsoft shareholders have discount on Surface. That's what you are saying?

I am fairly certain that if you own 1% of apple, you can expect your iPad order to be filled fairly quickly yes.
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