ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[flyingplows]

ASICMINER, if there is anything left from you, can you be so kind to answer one simple question, since you seem to ignore emails to your support: Are you planning to return amhash.com balance which according to AMHash support is sent to you or should we consider it also stolen? Thank you for the answer.
Do you even read support@bitquan.com?

[Chris_Sabian]

ASICMINER, if there is anything left from you, can you be so kind to answer one simple question, since you seem to ignore emails to your support: Are you planning to return amhash.com balance which according to AMHash support is sent to you or should we consider it also stolen? Thank you for the answer.
Do you even read support@bitquan.com?

I have been trying to get into contact with both support and sales at bitquan.com but haven't heard a response.  I've tried multiple emails and different texts but no response.  All of the emails are received and are not bounced.

[flyingplows]

ASICMINER, if there is anything left from you, can you be so kind to answer one simple question, since you seem to ignore emails to your support: Are you planning to return amhash.com balance which according to AMHash support is sent to you or should we consider it also stolen? Thank you for the answer.
Do you even read support@bitquan.com?

I have been trying to get into contact with both support and sales at bitquan.com but haven't heard a response.  I've tried multiple emails and different texts but no response.  All of the emails are received and are not bounced.

I got that support@bitquan.com email when I wrote to AMHash support. They said they sent money to AM, and we should write to them to retrieve out balances. I find it somehow strange... Sent money to AM after all this? They should have guarded the money from AM and just send it to our withdraw addresses.

[ensurance982]

Lost about $55,000 USD in this fiasco. I'm still stunned FC robbed all the shareholders when he had a decent chip ready to self-mine back to profitability and he takes a runner? WTF?
What about this other David Fan guy that "took-over" asicminer, not a peep from him in this forum? Ugh.
Why do AMHASH people get crumbs and asicminer shareholders get total silence + zero btc when asicminer has/had? fat wallets filled with BTC?
I trusted FC, that's what hurts the most.

Sorry for your loss, seriously! I think the official (backed by board member "Jutarul") story is that the planned funding for the BE300 didn't materialize as investors dropped their support back in December or so. Then the fiasco with AMHASH. AM1 holders get nothing, because they were investing in an unregulated company, AMHASH was a "solid" product with a clearly defined payment plan.

[ensurance982]

So many pages here. I do recall some BoD coming on here and saying they are kept in the dark. They were implying that the AM BoD is a shadow puppet? It was only there to make AM seem legit?
Seems like a puppet organization, a diversionary tactic

 AM is legit.

  I liken them to popular yet short-lived musical talent such as The Smiths, The Doors, Joy Division, Richie Valens, Janice Joplin, Cream, Buddy Holly, Sir Mixalot, Bobby Darrin and yes even Gogmagog - the wannabe, rock super-group dripping with talent: Pete Willis (Def Leppard), Neil Murray (Whitesnake), Paul Di’Anno and Clive Burr (Iron Maiden), Janick Gers (White Spirit) which lasted but a few days.  Like AM, they added to their trade but alas, their life was short and sweet.

 In saying that, I'm hoping for one last encore!  (from AM that is)

Sounds like a weird comparison at first, but I guess it actually is pretty spot on. Back in 2012/2013 AM was able to produce the first (one of the first next to Avalon, I guess) ASICs and was also able to profit massively from the first bubble of 2013. Also, 2014 was an incredibly unlucky year.

[EternalWingsofGod]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

[Fordee]

As an aside to the general gloomy topics here, I was considering how the mining/manufacturing  climate has changed changed in the past year..

Can anyone help me building a list of the Current 2015 marketplace for private/public asic availability in the .28 or better realm??

For example:

Companies that have access to a proven functional .28 or better CHIP for Private Use:
Spondoolies, Bitmain, Bitfury, KNC, BFL

Companies that still produce publicly accessible (and shipping) ASIC miners of .28 or better.
Spondoolies; Bitmain.

Any others come quickly to mind?

[Chris_Sabian]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

[TheIZS]

So does nobody wonder what happened to the balances in their AMHash account? I didn't have much but it wasn't ZERO. So they are stealing that too?

[flyingplows]

So does nobody wonder what happened to the balances in their AMHash account? I didn't have much but it wasn't ZERO. So they are stealing that too?

I wondered at least, you can check my posts, but no answer from AM and AMHash just telling they sent everything what's left to AM for some reason...

[ensurance982]

As an aside to the general gloomy topics here, I was considering how the mining/manufacturing  climate has changed changed in the past year..

Can anyone help me building a list of the Current 2015 marketplace for private/public asic availability in the .28 or better realm??

For example:

Companies that have access to a proven functional .28 or better CHIP for Private Use:
Spondoolies, Bitmain, Bitfury, KNC, BFL

Companies that still produce publicly accessible (and shipping) ASIC miners of .28 or better.
Spondoolies; Bitmain.

Any others come quickly to mind?

I guess I don't have to advise you not to buy from BFL, right? Yeah, I guess Spondoolies, Bitmain, and BitFury are the most reliable companies out there at the moment. I was wondering for quite some time, whether maybe the harsh climate in the mining business may have also taken its toll on the price of Bitcoin. I guess a large inflow of people interested in mining and the new ASIC hardware pushed the price up back in 2013...

[ensurance982]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

He wasn't? But with all those passthrough shares, he effectively held the "original" shares! In hindsight it was of course a wise move, but no one could have anticipated that a year ago. Also, I guess it was also due to Havelock not wanting to do business with passthrough operators, anymore. That's why they took over TaT's shares, I guess!

[TheRealSteve]

I guess I don't have to advise you not to buy from BFL, right? Yeah, I guess Spondoolies, Bitmain, and BitFury are the most reliable companies out there at the moment.

Doesn't really matter much if a company is reliable if they don't really have any product to sell; BitFury doesn't really sell anymore (if you want to put together a large mine, anybody's willing to talk business, of course) and Spondoolies is out of stock and changing business models along the same lines.  On the up side, a few other companies may be joining the fray.

[Chris_Sabian]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

He wasn't? But with all those passthrough shares, he effectively held the "original" shares! In hindsight it was of course a wise move, but no one could have anticipated that a year ago. Also, I guess it was also due to Havelock not wanting to do business with passthrough operators, anymore. That's why they took over TaT's shares, I guess!

Correct.  Since TaT was acting as a passthrough and 'holding' ~10,000 direct shares at the time, TaT was able to be a board member in name only since the PT shares didn't have the 'rights' that direct shares had.  I talked with TaT several times on IRC about AM.  I guess during the early days of AM, the board meetings were over Skype video chat.  Around the summer of 2013, FC stopped giving video chats and went only to text chats via Skype.  The dates / information may be a little off as I'm trying to remember detail of conversations that took place a year ago.

[statdude]

and another thing...
has this been verified as the AM wallet held by FC? https://blockchain.info/address/3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y

if so has anyone been able to follow the coins?

im looking at it but idk what im doing and get lost pretty quick. there is still 30k btc in it, but plenty moved out right around the bad news....

the majority went to 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM and 3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

after that, i have no idea?

Does anyone know what address is 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM?

I have hacked coins that went there.

[dhenson]

Does anyone know what address is 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM?

I have hacked coins that went there.

Looks like an Exchange wallet.  Most likely converted to fiat.

[ensurance982]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

He wasn't? But with all those passthrough shares, he effectively held the "original" shares! In hindsight it was of course a wise move, but no one could have anticipated that a year ago. Also, I guess it was also due to Havelock not wanting to do business with passthrough operators, anymore. That's why they took over TaT's shares, I guess!

Correct.  Since TaT was acting as a passthrough and 'holding' ~10,000 direct shares at the time, TaT was able to be a board member in name only since the PT shares didn't have the 'rights' that direct shares had.  I talked with TaT several times on IRC about AM.  I guess during the early days of AM, the board meetings were over Skype video chat.  Around the summer of 2013, FC stopped giving video chats and went only to text chats via Skype.  The dates / information may be a little off as I'm trying to remember detail of conversations that took place a year ago.

Interesting insight! Yeah, I remember people recounting how they even saw friedcat during the board meetings and maybe even pre-funding phase. That was during a time where he was some kind of mythological creature and the bringer of coins. I guess the decrease in information and communication was indeed a very red flag :/

[pedrog]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

He wasn't? But with all those passthrough shares, he effectively held the "original" shares! In hindsight it was of course a wise move, but no one could have anticipated that a year ago. Also, I guess it was also due to Havelock not wanting to do business with passthrough operators, anymore. That's why they took over TaT's shares, I guess!

He also got burned with the NeoBee scam at that time, he might just want to distantiate himself from all this mess.

[ensurance982]

Yeah
The absolute silence from the board is a little weird, in fact their whole role seemed a little hoary. Didn't a few leave the board precisely because they felt left in the dark?

Well there weren't that many board members known publicly to begin with
TAT, Jutarul, that one other guy and that pretty much was it to my knowledge
TAT left not sure about the other guy.

As others have said if Jutarul is not saying anything theirs likely nothing new to report.

TAT was never a board member.  He was the passthrough holder for Bitfunder and Havelock.  TAT got out of the game about a year ago when AM stopped paying dividends.  A smart move for sure.

He wasn't? But with all those passthrough shares, he effectively held the "original" shares! In hindsight it was of course a wise move, but no one could have anticipated that a year ago. Also, I guess it was also due to Havelock not wanting to do business with passthrough operators, anymore. That's why they took over TaT's shares, I guess!

He also got burned with the NeoBee scam at that time, he might just want to distantiate himself from all this mess.

Who, TaT? How did he actually get burned by NeoBee? Did he invest in there or did he operate some passthrough, as well? The NEOBEE shares on Havelock were direct NeoBee shares, weren't they? The only connection I know of is Bitfunder/Ukyo and NeoBee, they allegedly worked on restoring the BitFunder coins...

[philipma1957]

As an aside to the general gloomy topics here, I was considering how the mining/manufacturing  climate has changed changed in the past year..

Can anyone help me building a list of the Current 2015 marketplace for private/public asic availability in the .28 or better realm??

For example:

Companies that have access to a proven functional .28 or better CHIP for Private Use:
Spondoolies, Bitmain, Bitfury, KNC, BFL

Companies that still produce publicly accessible (and shipping) ASIC miners of .28 or better.
Spondoolies; Bitmain.

Any others come quickly to mind?

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there are threads on it in hardware .. I am running 2 of them as I type.